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Youthful Solar System Bodies Puzzle Evolutionary Scientists (article)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | Article posted on February 13, 2013. | Jake Hebert, Ph.D,

Posted on 02/15/2013 12:08:09 PM PST by fishtank

Youthful Solar System Bodies Puzzle Evolutionary Scientists by Jake Hebert, Ph.D. *

A feature story in a recent issue of the journal Nature described four solar system bodies that are puzzling to evolutionary scientists.1 Specifically, the article discussed the rings of Saturn, two of Saturn's moons (Enceladus and Titan), and Jupiter's moon Io. These four bodies all exhibit properties that cannot persist for billions of years.

The brightness of Saturn's rings is puzzling because after billions of years, they should have been darkened by dust from comets and asteroids. Yet these rings are still brilliantly beautiful.

Likewise, watery geysers erupting from the south pole of Saturn's moon Enceladus suggest that the moon is giving off a great deal of heat, yet this heat should "die down" relatively quickly. A mechanism proposed by Australian planetary scientist Craig O'Neill can theoretically provide enough release of heat to sustain the geysers for only about ten million years—far fewer than billions of years.

Secular researchers are also puzzled by the methane in Titan's atmosphere. Because sunlight degrades methane, Titan's atmospheric methane should have been depleted after only a few tens of millions of years. Yet methane is still present in Titan's atmosphere.

Likewise, the extreme volcanic activity on Jupiter's moon Io seems incapable of being sustained for extremely long periods of time.

Secular planetary scientists have proposed multiple hypotheses to explain these "anomalies." Many of these explanations assume that we just happen to be simultaneously viewing multiple short-lived astronomical phenomena. However, even secular scientists acknowledge that such a coincidence seems unlikely. For instance, O'Neill acknowledged that his explanation for the continuing geologic activity on Enceladus seems like "special pleading," since it requires researchers to view Enceladus at a special time in its history. Other proposed explanations for the persistence of these phenomena are also problematic.

Economy of explanation, or parsimony, is an important principle in science. A single hypothesis that can simultaneously explain multiple phenomena is more likely to be correct than multiple hypotheses needed to explain those same phenomena. Of course, there is such a hypothesis that could easily explain all four of these astronomical "anomalies." If the solar system were only thousands, rather than billions, of years old as implied by a straightforward reading of the Bible, then the continued brilliance of Saturn's rings, the continued presence of methane in Titan's atmosphere, and the continuing geological activity of Io and Enceladus would not be surprising—those would actually be expected.

In fact, creation scientists and astronomers have been pointing out such youthful features of our solar system for many years.2 Yet not only have secular scientists refused to even consider the possibility of a young, created solar system, they have discriminated against creation scientists.3

Secular planetary scientists would deny that there is any good reason to believe the universe is young. And yet their puzzlement over these four solar system bodies is a direct result of their insistence that the universe has been in existence for billions of years. Could their unwillingness to consider this possibility be due to other reasons?

If the universe really is just thousands of years old, then evolution is completely discredited. A slow evolutionary process needs billions of years in order even to appear plausible. If evolutionary processes are disqualified, then special creation is the only remaining logical alternative. But special creation requires a Creator. And many—even scientists who are supposedly logical, objective, and impartial—are simply unwilling to acknowledge their Creator's authority over their lives.

References

McKee, M. 2013. Caught in the Act. Nature. 493 (7434): 592-596.

For a good summary of such features, see Psarris, S. 2009. DVD. What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy, Volume 1: Our Created Solar System. Creation Astronomy Media.

For instance, many suspect that scientist David Coppedge's employment at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory was terminated due to his belief in and support of biblical creation. See: At Pro-Darwin Blogs, Knee-Jerk Responses to the David Coppedge Intelligent Design Case Validate Discrimination Claims. Evolution News & Views. Posted on evolutionnews.org November 7, 2012, accessed February 11, 2013. Image credit: NASA/JPL - Caltech/Space Science Institute

* Dr. Hebert is Research Associate at the Institute for Creation Research and received his Ph.D. in Physics from the University of Texas at Dallas.

Article posted on February 13, 2013.


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To: fishtank
Economy of explanation, or parsimony, is an important principle in science. A single hypothesis that can simultaneously explain multiple phenomena is more likely to be correct than multiple hypotheses needed to explain those same phenomena.

There is also the requirement that the hypothesis have predictive explanatory power. It must be able to give a further explanation for something we don't know yet, but on investigation, turns out to be the case.

"ITWASALIENS" and "GODDIDIT" do not apply.

41 posted on 02/15/2013 3:46:51 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: GraceG

Sorry. Your God would be a sick practical Jokester. To give us reason then make a universe that mocks it.
I prefer a God who created a wonderous ancient gigantic universe, with rules that over the ages miraculously led to us, one step at a time....


42 posted on 02/15/2013 4:11:51 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak

I prefer a God who created a wonderous ancient gigantic universe, with rules that over the ages miraculously led to us, one step at a time....

As do I, I was using absurdity to illustrate a point earlier!


43 posted on 02/15/2013 5:04:31 PM PST by GraceG
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To: stremba

Creationists think all science is “evolution” as soon as it disagrees with yheir wacky cosmology. Linguistics, anthropology, archeology, geology, astronomy, physics, et.al..


44 posted on 02/15/2013 5:16:40 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Oztrich Boy
There is also the requirement that the hypothesis have predictive explanatory power. It must be able to give a further explanation for something we don't know yet, but on investigation, turns out to be the case.

"ITWASALIENS" and "GODDIDIT" do not apply.

45 posted on 02/15/2013 5:21:21 PM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Uh no absurdity surprises me on these Creation Science threads.


46 posted on 02/15/2013 5:32:17 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak
Uh no absurdity surprises me on these Creation Science threads.

Then why go on these threads?

47 posted on 02/16/2013 12:31:23 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

For the laughs


48 posted on 02/16/2013 2:04:40 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak
For the laughs

Yeppers, them be a bunch o' stoopid peeple hear:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx

Jst looky hear at them number of howmany think "Humans evolved, God had no part in process."

49 posted on 02/16/2013 5:09:26 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

Never said God had nothing to do with it. Evolution and a belief in God are not incompatible.


50 posted on 02/16/2013 5:52:01 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak
"Evolution and a belief in God are not incompatible."

Do you believe in a separation of church and sate?

51 posted on 02/16/2013 6:21:13 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

Yeah. And that has nothing to do with this.


52 posted on 02/16/2013 8:41:18 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak; metmom
You stated: "Never said God had nothing to do with it. Evolution and a belief in God are not incompatible,"

and I asked if you believe in a separation of church and sate. You answer: "Yeah. And that has nothing to do with this." Funny how the courts - the way Darwinist stifle debate - disagree with your conclusions here.

53 posted on 02/16/2013 11:50:50 PM PST by celmak
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To: celmak

I don’t care what the courts think. You asked me what I think.


54 posted on 02/17/2013 6:01:58 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Kozak; metmom
I don’t care what the courts think. You asked me what I think.

You've proved my point again.

55 posted on 02/17/2013 9:14:36 AM PST by celmak
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To: Sirius Lee; celmak
But people claiming the earth is 6,000 years old and throwing up their arms every time they find a gap in the data and saying "God did it." is not science. Idiocy, yes, but not science.

So everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot?

How objective of you.

56 posted on 02/17/2013 11:04:05 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Oztrich Boy; fishtank; celmak; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; ...
"ITWASALIENS" and "GODDIDIT" do not apply.

Neither does *ITJUSTHAPPENED*.

Scientists have nothing better to offer just because they kicked God out of their considerations.

57 posted on 02/17/2013 11:11:51 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kozak; GraceG
Sorry. Your God would be a sick practical Jokester. To give us reason then make a universe that mocks it.

On the contrary, making the universe for functionality would not rule out making some stuff with the appearance of age. It would have nothing to do with deceit, as He is so often accused of by those who reject Him.

On the day Adam was created as a man, how old was he? Was he decades old, as a full grown man would APPEAR to be? Or was he less than one day old as the creation account tells us? Which is correct?

The scientist begins with observations and makes a conclusion based on physical evidence and comes to the wrong conclusion.

The believer takes God at His word on faith in spite of the evidence and comes to the correct conclusion.

Imagine that......

58 posted on 02/17/2013 11:18:13 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: celmak

I think the point is on your head.


59 posted on 02/17/2013 1:20:02 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: metmom; Oztrich Boy; fishtank; celmak; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene
"ITWASALIENS" and "GODDIDIT" do not apply.
Neither does *ITJUSTHAPPENED*.

"Like Topsey, it just growed"?

By its own boundaries, Science can't even essay an answer. Science, by its own rules, is not even permitted to ask the question.

60 posted on 02/17/2013 2:06:42 PM PST by YHAOS
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