Posted on 02/16/2013 5:44:42 PM PST by Kaslin
That MSNBC host would be the one and only Touré who was responding to a section in Wayne LaPierre’s recent article on The Daily Caller. The NRA chief was discussing the various reasons law-abiding citizens need a firearm, including after a natural disaster.
“After Hurricane Sandy, we saw the hellish world that the gun prohibitionists see as their utopia. Looters ran wild in south Brooklyn. There was no food, water or electricity. And if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back before dark, or you might not get home at all.”
And just like that, Touré’s racism radar went off.
MSNBC’s Toure: If Newtown Shooter Killed Black Kids We Probably Wouldn’t Be Talking About Guns
“Perhaps we know Wayne LaPierre is wrong about good guys and bad guys and guns. I’m sure many of us find him hard to trust given his obvious use of racial demonization to spread fear that will lead to buying guns. In his recent editorial in the Daily Caller, he spoke of supposedly rampant crime and murder in some place he called South Brooklyn in the days after Hurricane Sandy. Put aside that no reporting bears that out, I live in Brooklyn, and I have for a long time, and there is no place referred to as South Brooklyn. But I think it's safe to say that when he says that, much of the country envisions a place clogged with black people.
Now if Adam Lanza had walked into a black public school in this mythical South Brooklyn or in the Southside of Chicago, we would probably not be having a sustained national conversation about guns.Adam just smushed the pain of the gun epidemic in America's face, but black people have been living with that pain for so long we're numb to it. We’re rightly outraged by interracial killings, but black on black crime is a far more prevalent problem.”
He does have a point though. If Adam Lanza, a white male, had walked into a black public school and massacred 26 children and teachers, we’d be talking about racism. But that would be only part of the national conversation. Many have argued the reason the president’s real push for gun control came after Sandy Hook rather than Aurora is because it was in his second term. While this may be true, I’d also argue the public’s outrage and many people’s emotional draw toward gun control stems from the fact that the majority of victims were innocent children. Moreover, they were victimized in an elementary school--one of the safest places young people can be. This has nothing to do with race. To suggest Americans wouldn't be just as outraged if this occured in a black public school is disgraceful.
That being said, however, black on black crime is a far more prevalent problem—so in that sense, Touré’s right. If we are to stick with his example of the Southside of Chicago though, we can see that more gun control isn’t the answer. Guns are an easy target for progressives but it’s time people stop overlooking the many reasons people choose to the pull the trigger.
As a side note, NewsBusters’ Noel Sheppard points out there really is such a thing as South Brooklyn and he just happened to find a HuffPo article titled, “Hurricane Sandy Looting, Fights Plague South Brooklyn." Hmm.
"It's getting dark, and it's real dangerous out here -- that's why there's a cop on every block," one NYPD officer told HuffPost Crime. "You could get your stuff stolen." [...]
Dena Wells, 39, a resident of Ocean Towers, had had enough after watching the melee.
"People are turning on each other -- they're attacking each other," she said, shaking her head. "Even when there's no disaster, this building is disastrous. But after the hurricane, it just got crazy."
Don't expect an apology from Touré.
It frogs had wings they would fly.
and they say white conservatives are the racists...
IF frogs had wings, they would fly.
IF Tourette had a brain, he would be dangerous.
They also say that Obama is smart.
They are so full of shit.
H e is right. And he is right that if Lanza were black shooting black kids we would not be discussing gun control either.
Warning: this is a repeat. BUT knowing the statistics factually before the argument does matter.
1) 50% of all murder victims in 2011 were African-American.
2) 52 % of all murderers in 2011 were African-American (if their race was known and a significant fraction was unknown).
3) The murder rate (not including manslaughter) in the US in 2011 (4.1 per 100K) is half what it was in 1992, and the rate has been falling since 1992, its not an all at once thing.
4) Given that African-Americans make up 14% of the US population and commit half of all murders, that implies…
a) The murder rate for non-African-Americans (86% of the US population) is something like half the national average (about 2.3/100K) – about the same as that of Finland.
b) The murder rate for African-Americans is about 15/100K. This is about the same rate as that of Mexico.
c) African-American men ages 13-39 are about 2.4% of the population of the US in 2011 and account for an estimated 40% of all murders.
5) About half of all murders in the US are committed with handguns (again, as of 2011).
Conclusion: Unless and until we control young urban Black males killing other young urban Black males we’re not going to significantly reduce murder rates in the US.
Opinion: Americans don’t believe giving up their fundamental right to armed self-defense is a price worth paying to stop street thugs engaged in the narcotics trade from killing each other at a high rate.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-1
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_SF2_QTP1&prodType=table
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_11_1YR_S0101&prodType=table
Would we be talking about it if Lanza was black?
Like they don’t talk about the record setting pace of black-on-black killings in Chicago.
True. And, If Adm Lanza weren’t insane, he wouldn’t have killed anybody, white or black.
The NRA was accused of overt RACISM back in 1968 when they issued a statement as to why Americans need guns.
The NRA statement was..”What if there was a race riot in your neighborhood and the police had been called elsewhere?”
Needless to say, the 1968 MSM were all over it!, foaming at the mouth, falling down and getting skinned up to prove NRA racism.
They don’t spend a whole lot of time talking about the number of blacks who legally defend themselves with guns in Detroit. Elderly blacks are taking a heck of a toll.
Since only Dems are pushing for gun control, he seems to be confirming what I always say. Dems are racists. Always have been, still are. They are the party of ethnic politics and race obsession; its in their DNA. They can't help themselves, its the lens through which they see the world.
He's wrong though. Dems are always for gun control, as long as they have their own armed security men around them. And they are always race obsessed and will seize on even a crime in which race is not a factor to cry "race". They can't help themselves. And if there is some way to tie "race" and gun control into the same conversation, its a bonus-play opportunity. Which for them is easy, since they see race everywhere they look all day every day.
Actually, I think that is true. Who in the national media ever makes mention of the daily carnage taking place in the inner cities?
I agree. We should probably stop talking about gun control because it is racist.
Actually, I think that is true. Who in the national media ever makes mention of the daily carnage taking place in the inner cities?
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Only if they can make it white people’s fault.
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And if Lanza had been an abortionist he could have killed kids of all different races with impunity by the thousands and nobody would have batted an eye.
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