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SF Takes Up New, Stricter Gun Control Measure
nbcbayarea.com ^ | February 21, 2013

Posted on 02/21/2013 9:12:43 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

A San Francisco Board of Supervisors committee today approved two pieces of legislation targeting the sale and possession of certain ammunition in the city.

The ordinances would make certain military-grade ammunition illegal to possess in San Francisco and require businesses to notify police when someone buys 500 rounds or more of ammunition in a single transaction.

The board's city operations and neighborhood services committee voted to move both items to the full board with a positive recommendation. Supervisor Malia Cohen, representative of the often shooting-plagued Bayview District and other neighborhoods in the southeast part of the city, said, "I know all too well about the impact of senseless gun violence."

Cohen, who is a co-sponsor of the legislation along with Mayor Ed Lee, said the ordinances "are not a panacea, but can be another tool in our efforts to address gun violence."

The ammunition that would be illegal to possess in San Francisco are hollow-point bullets with barbs that inflict more damage in a shooting victim.

"These barbs cause significant damage to internal organs ... and make surgical repair effectively impossible," said Jason Elliott from the mayor's office. Violators would face up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine.

Military members and law enforcement personnel would be exempt from the legislation.

Police Capt. Denis O'Leary said the Police Department supports the ban on the military-grade ammunition, which is already illegal to sell in the city. Supervisor David Campos called the ordinances "a very measured approach to the rising problem of having too many guns on the streets" and thought the city was "on strong legal footing" if opponents potentially file lawsuits over the constitutionality of the legislation.

Federal and state legislators are also mulling other gun control laws in the wake of the massacre at an elementary school in Connecticut in December, but despite the hot button issue, only a handful of people came to speak at the public comment portion of today's meeting at City Hall.

Robert Green said he opposed the proposals, which he said "will do little to nothing to help public safety."

Regarding the requirement that businesses notify police of large ammunition purchases, Green said the city "should focus on purchases by prohibited persons" rather than an arbitrary purchase by a non-criminal.

However, Campos noted that many of the recent large-scale shootings, such as the one in Connecticut, were carried out by people who had a legal right to buy the bullets and no criminal history.

"You should not be afraid of the chief of police knowing that you're purchasing ammunition," Campos said. "If you're not doing anything wrong or illegal, the fact that the chief of police knows should not be a problem."


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/21/2013 9:12:47 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It’s getting WORSE, REAL fast! Please share this with as many as you can, as QUICKLY as you can!

http://redflagnews.com/headlines/disarming-americas-heros-veterans-receiving-official-letters-prohibiting-them-from-purchasing-possessing-receiving-or-transporting-a-firearm-or-ammunition


2 posted on 02/21/2013 9:17:51 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Exactly what the nazis and the soviets used to say:

"You should not be afraid of the chief of police knowing that you're purchasing ammunition," Campos said. "If you're not doing anything wrong or illegal, the fact that the chief of police knows should not be a problem."

3 posted on 02/21/2013 9:23:06 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

One of THE BASTIONS of lib-tardness decides to push a meaningless, in-reality-accomplishs-nothing-knee jerk-politically-motivated bit of ‘feel good’ legislation...I’m shocked, I tell you!


4 posted on 02/21/2013 9:24:36 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The ammunition that would be illegal to possess in San Francisco are hollow-point bullets with barbs that inflict more damage in a shooting victim.

"These barbs cause significant damage to internal organs ... and make surgical repair effectively impossible," said Jason Elliott from the mayor's office. Violators would face up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine.

Military members and law enforcement personnel would be exempt from the legislation.

If someone is intent on doing harm to either my family or me, I really don't care if the bullet I fire into that attacker "makes surgical repair effectively impossible".

And do politicos like Mr. Elliott really think that less damage would be done, if it's a cop rather than a civilian who fires such a bullet?

5 posted on 02/21/2013 9:35:27 PM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: raisetheroof

I’ll bet the ten bags of lime I drop on him afterwards will make surgical repair impossible too.


6 posted on 02/21/2013 9:46:48 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Tailgunner Joe

New law in San Francisco. Everyone must go out and buy a gun, bring it to their local police and turn it in. This will keep people safer and this way everyone gets to participate in the cleansing of our communities.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 9:47:01 PM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: raisetheroof
The ammunition that would be illegal to possess in San Francisco are hollow-point bullets with barbs that inflict more damage in a shooting victim.

"These barbs cause significant damage to internal organs ... and make surgical repair effectively impossible," said Jason Elliott from the mayor's office. Violators would face up to six months in jail or a $1,000 fine.

You know what else hollow points do? They stop over penetration. That's right. Bullets don't go through bodies or as much material. So they are safer to shoot in doors for the innocent folks.

8 posted on 02/21/2013 9:50:28 PM PST by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I see a fantastic ammo promo for San Fran gun owners:

Packs of ammo - San Francisco 499ers. 1 short of 500 rounds.


9 posted on 02/21/2013 9:51:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

CALIFORNIA EXPLAINED: Consider this: Chief Heather Fong (left), is the first SFPD female, lesbian chief of police. Theresa Sparks (center), a former male, is president of the San Francisco Police Commission, CEO of a multimillion-dollar sex toy retailer, and a transgender woman. Sgt. Stephan Thorne (right), a former female, is the first transgender male SFPD police officer.

Their Representative in Congress is Nancy Pelosi.

That about sums it up

10 posted on 02/21/2013 10:01:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“The ammunition that would be illegal to possess in San Francisco are hollow-point bullets with barbs that inflict more damage in a shooting victim.”

OK, everyone pay attention. “Military grade ammunition” is full metal jacket as required by the Geneva Convention. It does not expand when it hits anything made of flesh.

Hollowpoint ammo is NOT military grade ammunition. Hollow points for military use are outlawed by the same Geneva Convention. I have no idea what these “barbs” are. Whoever is proposing this law and the “journalist” who is reporting it have, as is usual with libtards, NO FREAKING IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT!

I’m sure that they “feel good” about it all though. In their tiny minds this will help to end the scourge of violence by guns. Even the guns don’t know what these morons are talking about.


11 posted on 02/21/2013 10:03:33 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: GeronL

Well just thanks a lot!

Its going to take a couple of gallons of industrial strength brain bleach to remove that image from the memory cells.


12 posted on 02/21/2013 10:06:21 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: 43north

lol.

we are just lucky they aren’t all nude in the pic


13 posted on 02/21/2013 10:11:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

why not, it’s working so well in Chicago...


14 posted on 02/21/2013 10:11:13 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Tailgunner Joe

No, these are NOT military type ammunition. Hollow point ammunition was outlawed in military use by the Geneva Conventions. . . ammunition to do more than wound or kill, ammunition designed to deliberately maim, was outlawed amount civilized nations. These idiots do not know what they are talking about or what they are outlawing.


15 posted on 02/21/2013 10:12:02 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: GeronL

Excellent!


16 posted on 02/21/2013 10:14:58 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Does anyone really pay attention to any of the laws SanFran passes anymore these days? The last time I had to travel through there was in the early nineties, and it looked so much like one of those graffiti-themed third-world cesspools that I swore I would never allow Myself or anyone I cared about go through that place unless it was in chains.

With all the latest idiocy being spewed from there, even doing online shopping if it is marked as being from San Fran in any way then I make a purchase elsewhere. They're not getting another penny from this direction.

17 posted on 02/21/2013 10:45:14 PM PST by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: GeronL

‘Ol Teresa there still looks like a man and Stephen(ie) has a certain feminine quality.. doncha think?!


18 posted on 02/23/2013 3:59:23 AM PST by Ian Hawk
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