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The Ground War Over Gun Control Has Officially Begun
Business Insider ^ | February 22, 2013 | Evan McMorris-Santoro,

Posted on 02/23/2013 7:55:17 AM PST by yoe

The ground war over gun control after the Newtown, Conn. massacre has begun. Across the country, members of Congress are being hit with grassroots campaigns and ads aimed at pushing them to one side or the other in the current debate over gun violence.

On Friday, the remnants of President Obama’s reelection campaign will hold its first “Day Of Action” since the November election, rallying its millions of supporters to join the call for gun control legislation at grassroots events nationwide

[snip] The National Rifle Association is targeting several members with ads of its own, running (full page news paper…) spots…….

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; control; guncontrol; guns; nra; rights; secondamendment
Obama means to disarm America - STOP him!
1 posted on 02/23/2013 7:55:25 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

We are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. It doesn’t even matter what polling shows. If the Democrats throw away the legal processes required to achieve what they want to amend the U.S. Constitution, and pass unconstitutional laws restricting Second Amendment Rights, there is nothing binding the states to the federal government anymore. The Constitution will be dead you F*ing morons! We are already hearing the death rattle.


2 posted on 02/23/2013 8:02:39 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: yoe
Across the country, members of Congress are being hit with grassroots campaigns and ads aimed at pushing them to one side or the other in the current debate over gun violence.

Gun Violence = Gun Ownership

Don't let the euphemisms fool you.

3 posted on 02/23/2013 8:03:13 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: yoe

I never thought that I’d see the day that I’d become an active recruiter for the NRA. I’m telling everyone to join the NRA because it’s not only gun ownership at stake here. We are defending the Bill of Rights. ALL of the Bill of Rights. So far, I’ve been pretty successful with convincing people to join.


4 posted on 02/23/2013 8:09:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: yoe

It’s ironic, but in 1775 our forefathers started a revolution against their government over far less tyranny and oppression than what we suffer under today. Far less.

Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.

However, I suspect that if and when the government comes for the guns things will get hot.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 8:11:14 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Disambiguator

Also remember that when the pollies say they want to “get illegal guns off the streets”, they really mean “confiscate legally owned guns from citizens’ homes”.

With a footnote of “homes of gun owners who’ll never vote for me so I’m going to screw them right back!”


6 posted on 02/23/2013 8:11:40 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: yoe

If/when the balloon goes up: remember the press.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 8:16:59 AM PST by papertyger
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To: yoe
:: Obama means to disarm America - STOP him! :: More accurately, the US Government means to place itself independent to and above the Constitution, abrogating to itself the mantle of sole interpreter and applier of laws (HT: Ayn Rand). This requires the co-operation of all three branches. They are just about there... When in the course of human events it becomes neceffary .
8 posted on 02/23/2013 8:20:12 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Again:

:: Obama means to disarm America - STOP him! ::

More accurately, the US Government means to place itself independent to and above the Constitution, abrogating to itself the mantle of sole interpreter and applier of laws (HT: Ayn Rand).

This requires the co-operation of all three branches. They are just about there...

When in the course of human events it becomes neceffary < sic >.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 8:22:24 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: elcid1970

“Also remember that when the pollies say they want to “get illegal guns off the streets”, they really mean “confiscate legally owned guns from citizens’ homes”.

With a footnote of “homes of gun owners who’ll never vote for me so I’m going to screw them right back!””

Dead right. This is about their anger.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 8:38:12 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: elcid1970
“get illegal guns off the streets”

You're being too generous. The mantra is to "get the guns off the streets". I wish I could find where these streets are.
11 posted on 02/23/2013 8:43:17 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: yoe
This Quote is still valid today

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves.” Winston Churchill

So is this one:

MOLON LABE

12 posted on 02/23/2013 8:49:45 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"When in the course of human events it becomes neceffary..." < sic >.

You have it right. That is indeed the way the founding generation wrote that word in printed documents. I know someone will chime in with the back story.

13 posted on 02/23/2013 9:09:29 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EXCH54FE
“By calling attention to ‘a well regulated militia,’ the ‘security’ of the nation, and the right of each citizen ‘to keep and bear arms,’ our founding fathers recognized the essentially civilian nature of our economy. Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation, the Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basic civilian-military relationships, in which every citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his country. For that reason I believe the Second Amendment will always be important.” - President John F. Kennedy

Now, fifty years later, governmental tyranny is no longer unlikely. It has become a certainty.

14 posted on 02/23/2013 9:11:32 AM PST by Max in Utah ("This is our land, mixed with our blood, strengthened with our bone. Ours!")
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To: yoe

“The Ground War Over Gun Control Has Officially Begun”

Article’s author is a little late to the party, isn’t he?


15 posted on 02/23/2013 9:12:35 AM PST by moovova (We got'em; they can't have'em.)
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To: elcid1970
(Obama's anti-gun agenda)

(Obama says, "Ban guns")

(Sandy Hook deaths politicized by Obama)

(Is Obama Already Politicizing Sandy Hook Shooting?)

Court Back a Ban on Concealed Weapons.....WSJ, February 24, 2013........Obama never meant to close Gitmo instead he means to dis-arm America....he never meant to use the bail outs to save the companies or our country....he used some of that money to pay back his unions and to give negro children a leg up over other children - to hire more Federal workers. Obama is sending more troops into Africa, his country...not ours...Barack Obama and his wife are not Democratic they are Third World Marxists....stopping his abuse of the Constitution is a must. Congress and the Senate must act....call your elected!

16 posted on 02/23/2013 9:27:00 AM PST by yoe
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To: CodeToad

“This is about their anger.”

You’re right. Ever notice on those rare occasions when a gungrabber is confronted by the opposition, he or she usually flies into a sputtering rage?

We’re not “their kind of people”, that’s certain.


17 posted on 02/23/2013 9:32:14 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: EXCH54FE
“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves.”
Winston Churchill

Bears repeating! More true today than in Winston Churchill's day! F___ that communist muslim pig, 0dumb0!

18 posted on 02/23/2013 9:34:08 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: moovova
i'm surprised a guy with a hyphenated last-name understands it at all...
19 posted on 02/23/2013 9:34:58 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

When Odumbo sends his first crew to take away guns and those who try doing so are shot at or worse, killed, all hell will break loose. I dread that day coming as it will pit friends agains’t friends, neighbors agains’t neighbors and brothers agains’t brothers. Another “civil war” will be upon us. And for what, the knee jerk reaction of politicians who are unable to lead, debate, solve real problems or compromise? Politicians who see themselves as “GODs”? Not in my book!


20 posted on 02/23/2013 10:07:20 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: yoe

Here is a new Free Republic thread featuring a new essay and 5-minute YouTube video titled “Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom.” The video has had 16,000 views in the first two days. Now the commie rat bastards have discovered it, and they are NOT happy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2990161/posts?page=42

http://youtu.be/rmfs_QM0OIA

I helped to produce the video. It’s an effort to lift the debate from Newtown “small ball” to the big leagues of state democide, where these efforts at “reasonable and commonsense” gun control laws always lead to death by the million in the end.


21 posted on 02/23/2013 10:29:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: yoe

I think this is going to be like the “gay marriage” paradigm, where the public does not want it, but legislators, governors and judges do, so defy the public will, create it anyway, forcing the public to expend great effort to overturn it, if they can. While being fought every inch of the way by the minority that wants it.


22 posted on 02/23/2013 10:36:08 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: ought-six

“...Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.”

I don’t think so, but soon. Our forefathers started shooting when they were shot at when the British were trying to disarm them.


23 posted on 02/23/2013 10:49:01 AM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: Progov
when that day finally does come, it will be US against THEM, and whoever Them is, will deserve it...
24 posted on 02/23/2013 10:58:51 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Progov
When Odumbo sends his first crew to take away guns

It is my belief that they will just issue felony warrants on all known gun owners and depend upon the state troopers, et al to bring you in. Once you drive to work or take a Sunday drive with the family, all the police have to do is run your plate, see the outstanding warrant, and pull you over or call for backup.

You gonna risk a firefight with your family in the car? You wanna get out of jail? Turn in turn in your gun.

25 posted on 02/23/2013 11:54:19 AM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Windflier; Cletus.D.Yokel

Proffessional calligrapher here:

it has to do with the fact the document in question was hand written and double “s” - ss - was writen so it appeared as - ff - but was actually the double long version of “s”. Double “ff” has a cross bar but the double “ss” does not. So, Cletus darling...you misspelled the word when you used “f”.

Some letters written in that particular letter style, sometimes called ‘Italic’, have different versions: “g” has two styles; the combination of “ts” has a connection that makes it appear tall, as does the double “tt”.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 11:59:29 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: yoe

The dims here in Colorado are doing a pretty good job of disarming us all by themselves...
I cant believe how far this western used to be deep red state has fallen in such a short period of time.


27 posted on 02/23/2013 12:03:08 PM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: broken_arrow1; All
" If the Democrats throw away the legal processes required to achieve what they want to amend the U.S. Constitution, ..."

As I've ranted in similar threads concerning amending the Constitution, please consider the following.

Constitution-ignoring Democrats have to keep the Constitution's Article V amendment process out of the public agenda. This is because they cannot afford for Constitution-ignorant voters to be made aware that only the states, not the federal government, can ratify proposed amendments to the Constitution, the states thus having absolute control over the federal government. After all, if such knowledge became widespread then it would undoubtedly throw a monkey wrench into the Democratic agenda to unconstitutionally centralize government power in DC.

28 posted on 02/23/2013 12:11:42 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: yoe

I looked-can find only one law in the Constitution about them guns......all the rest are repugnant to the Constitution therefore null and void.

Forgot who said “DEATH TO TYRANTS”, guess its back to the library.


29 posted on 02/23/2013 12:20:57 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Progov

When Odumbo sends his first crew to take away guns and those who try doing so are shot at or worse, killed, all hell will break loose
```````````````
Ruby Ridge
Waco,TX
Gordon Caul

Waiting....waiting......waiting....


30 posted on 02/23/2013 12:38:33 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: S.O.S121.500

KAUL


31 posted on 02/23/2013 12:49:12 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Disambiguator
Gun violence = Inner city drug dealing feral yutes shooting other inner city drug dealing feral yutes.

According to the lib logic, if you disarm lawful gun owners in the suburbs, inner city feral drug dealing yutes in the inner city will stop killing each other.

Yeah, right.

What will happen after lawful gun owners are disarmed is that the inner city drug dealing feral yutes will now be free to roam the untapped suburbs with impunity and kill you.

This will make the gun violence stats more diverse and fair.

32 posted on 02/23/2013 2:04:56 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: CodeToad
With a footnote of “homes of gun owners who’ll never vote for me so I’m going to screw them right back!””

Dead right. This is about their anger.

I am convinced of that.

Years ago I read an article someone wrote laying out his opinion that "gun control" was not about safety/violence/guns or anything like that. It was about punishment.

It was simply an easy way for the left to severely punish the right for their being so wrongheaded and refusing to correct their thinking. They knew it was something we cared very deeply about, so that made it the perfect thing to attack.

33 posted on 02/23/2013 2:21:42 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Mom MD
I cant believe how far this western used to be deep red state has fallen in such a short period of time.

Nor can I. I lived in Colorado for 5 years as a kid, (1955-60) and it was a very western sort of place. I had a blast doing stuff that is probably very illegal there now.

I get the impression it is the decay of Denver that is the root of it all. Read about the Amish mobs targeting people downtown, the illegals running amok, etc.

Other otherwise normal states like Oregon have similar issues where one large city dominates the political climate in spite of the nature of the people.

34 posted on 02/23/2013 2:29:02 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: S.O.S121.500
Ruby Ridge Waco,TX Gordon Caul Waiting....waiting......waiting....

What did you know about Ruby Ridge or Waco while it was happening?

All you knew then was what the news media fed you. That Randy Weaver was a member of a neo nazi racist organization that sold illegal weapons and was holed up in his compound after shooting and killing federal agents sent to legally arrest him for his crimes.

The news media during Waco told us that Koresh was an extremist religious cult leader that manufactured drugs, sold illegal weapons, had a harem of young girls and abused children. He and his cult members opened fire on government agents sent to legally arrest him for his crimes and killed them in an ambush.

In response to these actions we held hearings and the facts came out. The hearings didn't come to the conclusions that some of us thought they should, but in the end the public was satisfied that the problems with the government were solved.

The federal government declaring that every one in the state of Texas, Idaho or Pennsylvania that owns a gun is now a felon and can now be arrested or shot is a whole different can of worms. There won't be any waiting...waiting... waiting. It will be tick, tick, tick.

35 posted on 02/23/2013 2:42:45 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: yoe
The interesting thing about the Second Amendment is that it protects itself.
36 posted on 02/23/2013 2:49:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: doorgunner69

unfortunately I think it is not only the denver/boulder influence, but the influx of illegals. I hardly recognize the place sometimes. The southern burbs are still deep blue though. Sheriff Weaver of douglas county ( where I live) is one of the sheriffs pledging to fight illegal limitation of second amendment rights.


37 posted on 02/23/2013 3:22:32 PM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: Mom MD

Yikes! should proof read. Make that the southern burbs are still deep RED.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 3:23:16 PM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: yoe

congress critters watch msnbc.

they have all seemed to side with background check PERMANENT registration (vs the current 90 day only record rule)

and 10 round limits.

lets not get Mccained.


39 posted on 02/23/2013 3:36:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mom MD

No. I know what you mean. We are red, white and blue.

Commie bastards are RED!


40 posted on 02/23/2013 3:36:36 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: papertyger

You think just like me! Without the lying mainstream media Obama could never have gotten to first base in changing this country like he wants. They are traitors anyway you want to figure!


41 posted on 02/23/2013 4:15:24 PM PST by Howie
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To: ought-six

“It’s ironic, but in 1775 our forefathers started a revolution against their government over far less tyranny and oppression than what we suffer under today. Far less.

Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.”

They would have been shooting decades ago. The difference today obviously is the weaponry. In 1775 it was pretty much the same across the board. Today with SWAT teams and everything else the military has at it’s disposal, when it comes to the point of standing or surrendering, you pretty much know you will die. You can defend yourself and family against looters if properly armed, but not an all out on-slaught from the government. We’ll die with dignity and a patriotic heart, or die with shame knowing we surrendered as a coward.


42 posted on 02/23/2013 4:53:43 PM PST by selfdefense
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To: SatinDoll
Proffessional calligrapher here

Thanks for chiming in with the expert explanation, SD. Did you intend the double entendre with the word, proffessional?

43 posted on 02/23/2013 5:25:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: metalurgist

All you knew then was what the news media fed you. That Randy Weaver was a member of a neo nazi racist organization that sold illegal weapons and was holed up in his compound after shooting and killing federal agents sent to legally arrest him for his crimes.
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Wrong again some more. The miracles of two-way radio communications, outbanding, and SWL has for some, kept the government under scrutiny for a long, long time. It is only recently that alternative comms (www for one) have begun educating many more towards a critical mass which will start the next chapter in our histories.

They (governments) aren’t deceieving as large a percentage of people who now are looking about for a standard and leaders-more so each time an election is stolen and an unconstitutional law is foisted upon us. A change is coming, no quarter will be the watchword. I swore to The Constitution. YMMV


44 posted on 02/23/2013 6:00:28 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: Windflier

Oh, my! It’s my keyboard, I swear it is, as the keys stick or sometimes don’t appear and so double letters OR no letters are the result.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 6:41:56 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
Oh, my! It’s my keyboard, I swear it is, as the keys stick or sometimes don’t appear and so double letters OR no letters are the result.

Interesting bit of serendipity, wouldn't you say? :-)

46 posted on 02/23/2013 7:12:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ought-six

Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.
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Think they would have already cleaned house.


47 posted on 02/23/2013 8:10:27 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: selfdefense

“Today with SWAT teams and everything else the military has at it’s disposal, when it comes to the point of standing or surrendering, you pretty much know you will die.”

I don’t know; history is replete with examples showing just the opposite. Let’s just hope we as a nation can step back from the abyss, that we never get to the point where that history must repeat itself. Though getting to that point seems more inevitable day by day.


48 posted on 02/24/2013 6:14:15 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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