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Barack Obama’s war on America’s fresh water supply: China is buying up Lake Michigan’s water
Coachisright ^

Posted on 02/24/2013 10:01:21 PM PST by chessplayer

Barack Obama is keeping his promise to lower the sea levels, and he’s starting with the drought plagued Midwest where Lake Michigan water is being shipped by the boat loads over to China! By using a little known loophole in the 2006 Great Lakes Compact, Obama minions are allowing Nestle Company to export precious fresh water out of Lake Michigan to the tune of an estimated $500,000 to $1.8 million per day profit. By draining the precious jewel of the Great Lakes in the middle of America, our federal water managers are allowing the export of our water out of our country across thousands of miles of oceans into the Asian basin plagued by huge population centers who are suffering from their constant lack of fresh water. How’s that for cutting America down to size?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoasia; china; coachissilly; nestle; smellslikebs; water; watersupply
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So much for the Great Lakes Compact between Great Lakes states and Canada to prevent the draining of the lakes. Warmists blame global warming for the plummeting water levels in the Great Lakes. Now we know the real reason.
1 posted on 02/24/2013 10:01:27 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Seriously...

The Chinese will piss that water into their sewage systems, where it will eventually find its way back into the natural environment, where it will evaporate, then turn to clouds which blow into the Pacific, then fall as rain over North America - thus finding its way back home again.

This is much ado about nothing, methinks.


2 posted on 02/24/2013 10:06:14 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chessplayer

So where are the eco-socialists? Oh that’s right, they want us to be just like china.


3 posted on 02/24/2013 10:06:56 PM PST by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: chessplayer

Sounds like Nestle is actually ripping off the Chinese.


4 posted on 02/24/2013 10:10:33 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Windflier

If thats the way it works, why are water levels still plummeting? Lake Michigan levels are over two feet lower than long term average.


5 posted on 02/24/2013 10:13:50 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

So is this saying that Nestlé water is coming from Lake Michigan?


6 posted on 02/24/2013 10:14:17 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Windflier

Water levels have been in a downward spiral since the 1990’s. The water isn’t being replenished.


7 posted on 02/24/2013 10:17:21 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

I’m having a hard time imagining that there’s any possibility of transporting sufficient quantities of water by ship to affect the Great Lakes to any noticeable extent.


8 posted on 02/24/2013 10:20:28 PM PST by Bob
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To: petitfour

This has to be a joke. Who’d drink Great Lake water? Here in Alaska, we have unreal amounts of fresh glacial water running to the sea to become salty. Chinese need to come to Ak for water if they need it; we’ll sell it cheap too.


9 posted on 02/24/2013 10:20:57 PM PST by Eska
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To: chessplayer

this is not important.

the article says nestle can sell 250,000 gallons a day as bottled water.

at that rate it would take 14,000 years to empty the lake (assuming no net additions or deletions of current water).

By then, there is a good chance the Ice sheets will have returned covering the entire area.

Lake Erie is only 4,000 years old and has a depth of only 62 feet (average). The bottom of erie is rising too.

The Great Lakes as we know them are a wonderful if temporary resource.


10 posted on 02/24/2013 10:23:01 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Windflier

Seriously...

The Chinese will piss that water into their sewage systems, where it will eventually find its way back into the natural environment, where it will evaporate, then turn to clouds which blow into the Pacific, then fall as rain over North America - thus finding its way back home again.

This is much ado about nothing, methinks.

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Some of it will fall as snow on the San Francisco Peaks in Arizona and the indigs will be enraged at the Chinese too.....HO Ho ho....


11 posted on 02/24/2013 10:33:26 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: chessplayer

Ha! And they are going to get the zebra mussels too!


12 posted on 02/24/2013 10:35:38 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: chessplayer
The water isn’t being replenished

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Bull Squat......its going to different

places......its still on the planet. Back to school time.

13 posted on 02/24/2013 10:39:02 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: chessplayer

Globalization. The great idol of those whose worship of trade and the marketplace overrules every other interest.


14 posted on 02/24/2013 10:45:01 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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To: chessplayer

I heard about another scheme where believe it or not, the Canadians are actually stealing America’s water right out of Lake Superior, Lake Erie, Lake Ontario and Lake Huron!


15 posted on 02/24/2013 10:46:06 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: Slyfox

Send the Asian carp over there too.


16 posted on 02/24/2013 10:55:58 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: S.O.S121.500

Of even more dire consequences, it has been noted in some fringe scientific journals that air that you and I and every other American breaths and depends on each and every day for our mere existence is being exported from America by a space age jet stream!

It seams this jet stream exports America air from the United States and delivers it all the way to Europe and even Russia!

And the Europeans and the Russians don’t pay us a penny for our air.


17 posted on 02/24/2013 10:56:47 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: chessplayer

There are some things that should be ‘let go’....and this is one of them. Nestle can’t possibly have a meaningful impact on the lake by bottling water out of it.


18 posted on 02/24/2013 11:00:06 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew
Especially since they aren't bottling water out of the lake. They are bottling water from springs some which are in the middle of the state, as far from the Great Lakes as you can get in Michigan, which admittedly is not very far.

Yes, the level of the lake has gone down. The reason is that we have not had enough storms that come in from the south. This is an entirely different problem and one that humans can do little about.

19 posted on 02/24/2013 11:09:47 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: staytrue; chessplayer
the article says nestle can sell 250,000 gallons a day as bottled water.

That amounts to 0.77 acre-feet/day, maximum.

By contrast, the Saint Clair River, flowing out of Lake Huron, thus draining Lake Michigan in the process, averages 4.25 acre-feet per second; over 15,000 times as much water per day.

Putting it another way, Lake Michigan contains 1,180 cu mi of water, and 1 cubic mile = 3 379 200 acre feet, or 4.3 million times the amount Nestle can suck out. And that doesn't include what's in Lake Huron, essentially a part of Lake Michigan.

Rather than worrying about where the water is going, ask where is the money flowing.

20 posted on 02/24/2013 11:18:09 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Or, depending on who is the seller, it’s a back door campaign donation. Sounds wacky... but then there is bottled Fiji water, and it never ceases to amuse me to see people drinking bottled water that cost them over a buck a bottle at 7-11 complaining about gas prices per gallon.


21 posted on 02/24/2013 11:35:46 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ApplegateRanch; chessplayer

While it is troublesome that 250,000 of American water Lake Michigan is being exported to China, I read about the nation of Evaporation is taking more than 20 Billion gallons of American water per day from Lake Michigan.


22 posted on 02/24/2013 11:40:40 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

Bush’s fault. Dadburn weather machine.


23 posted on 02/24/2013 11:49:07 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Windflier

Rate of the water returning. It’s not difficult to imagine its being removed faster than it can be replenished.


24 posted on 02/24/2013 11:59:29 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Windflier

Exactly

Great lakes are a buttload of fresh water

Amazing
When I drive up the palm I can smell fresh water in summer in the air between Cadillac and TC

Amazing

I’m used to gulf water


25 posted on 02/25/2013 12:05:42 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: OKRA2012

There oughta be a law against jet streams!


26 posted on 02/25/2013 12:45:42 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Windflier

Lake Michigan is at an all time low, it is starting to effect shipping and commerce.
Yes, this is having a dramatic effect on those of us who live here.


27 posted on 02/25/2013 1:43:02 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: S.O.S121.500
The water isn’t being replenished ~~~~~ Bull Squat......its going to different places......its still on the planet. Back to school time.

They aren't say it vanishes but that it "isn't being replenished" locally.

That's like saying if you spend more money than you earn, it is being replenished because it is going to someone else.

Or if I steal your money, it is being replenished since it is going to a different place. My wallet.

Now replace the word 'money' with 'water.'

28 posted on 02/25/2013 2:37:23 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Matter or energy can neither be created nor destroyed.Those little atoms go round and round. The speed of the cycle is marginally influenced by the amount of solar insolation, but tends to be constant.

Put your apples and oranges back into the fruit bowl...go back to a school. Laws are immutable.


29 posted on 02/25/2013 2:57:03 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: OKRA2012

It seams this jet stream exports America air from the United States and delivers it all the way to Europe and even Russia!

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But the nice jet stream brings us more....from Russia even....must be cyclic. Hmmmmm


30 posted on 02/25/2013 3:01:31 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 ( Nothing so vexes me as a democrap above ground...ENFORCE THE BILL OF RIGHTS.)
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To: chessplayer

What are the sources for this story ‘cause I couldn’t find any.

Hard to believe it would be worth shipping to Asia. Nestle water sells for about $0.25 a bottle retail in Thailand which is about the same as local brands, in other words, not at a premium. I assume the price in China is similar.


31 posted on 02/25/2013 3:18:21 AM PST by expat1000
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To: chessplayer

Two words can explain what’s happening in the Great Lakes Basin. Hydrologic Alteration. Mankind has exceeded the amount of water he can store behind dams in reservoirs around the World. Since the 1940’s,the Chinese alone have dammed up more water than 4 of the 5 Great Lakes, over 8,000 cubic kilometers. They are also exporting their craft of engineering and building dams all over the World. The Amazon River and it’s tributaries are currently being developed. This is having a huge impact on ancient weather patterns and...wait...CLIMATE CHANGE!!! If carbon emissions were really the problem, we would all be dead from black lung by now.


32 posted on 02/25/2013 3:38:16 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: chessplayer

Mighty expensive water.


33 posted on 02/25/2013 3:56:58 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: CitizenUSA

Just Corporate Jet Streams!


34 posted on 02/25/2013 4:00:17 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: S.O.S121.500

This seems to be a good news article to me. There is no better position to be in than to control a portion of a fresh water supply of your greatest potential enemy.


35 posted on 02/25/2013 4:06:36 AM PST by Bill Russell (This is good news!)
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To: chessplayer

Mighty expensive water.


36 posted on 02/25/2013 4:09:47 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: petitfour

Yes.....It’s Pure Michigan!


37 posted on 02/25/2013 4:19:24 AM PST by Michigan Bowhunter (Fix Bayonetts!!!!!!! Time to fight!!!!!)
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To: Bill Russell
There is no better position to be in than to control a portion of a fresh water supply of your greatest potential enemy.

We can't control how much water is evaporated and replenished by rain. Presently we are losers in the water wars between the oceans, lands and skies.

38 posted on 02/25/2013 4:22:10 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: exnavy

1,000 footers are short loading 4,000 tons on each downbound trip.


39 posted on 02/25/2013 4:54:45 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Putting it another way, Lake Michigan contains 1,180 cu mi of water, and 1 cubic mile = 3 379 200 acre feet, or 4.3 million times the amount Nestle can suck out. And that doesn't include what's in Lake Huron, essentially a part of Lake Michigan.

If you convert these figures to cubic kilometers, you can easily compare this to the figures given in Wiki or UN data around the World for water behind large dams. The lake of fresh water poured into the oceans via rivers is made up for by rain over the oceans and water temps melting ice at the poles. The weight alone could be changing the spin and tilting of the Earth.

40 posted on 02/25/2013 5:02:54 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Putting it another way, Lake Michigan contains 1,180 cu mi of water, and 1 cubic mile = 3 379 200 acre feet, or 4.3 million times the amount Nestle can suck out. And that doesn't include what's in Lake Huron, essentially a part of Lake Michigan.

If you convert these figures to cubic kilometers, you can easily compare this to the figures given in Wiki or UN data around the World for water behind large dams. The (lack)of fresh water poured into the oceans via rivers is made up for by rain over the oceans and water temps melting ice at the poles. The weight alone could be changing the spin and tilting of the Earth.

41 posted on 02/25/2013 5:04:06 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Bob

Me too.


42 posted on 02/25/2013 5:06:26 AM PST by Venturer
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To: CitizenUSA

Don’t laugh. That’s His next project after He gets finished with gun confiscation. Never waste a good crisis, my papa always said.


43 posted on 02/25/2013 5:10:03 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: chessplayer

Everything this phony communist president does is so downright stupid and at the same time evil that it should make honest Americans puke, then go do something about it!


44 posted on 02/25/2013 5:21:40 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: OKRA2012

Yes, but the Evaporation Nation is protected by those most fearsome Viking Kitties of ZOT. So we can’t mess with them.


45 posted on 02/25/2013 5:24:05 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Windflier

Ahhhhhh......The Circle of Piss. I think Disney is going to make a film about it.......THE URINE KING.


46 posted on 02/25/2013 5:50:09 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: chessplayer
Canadian billionaire Maurice Strong, the guy who wrote the foundation of UN Agenda 21, first tried to make millions in a similar monopolistic scam with American Water Development.
47 posted on 02/25/2013 6:13:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: exnavy
Lake Michigan is at an all time low, it is starting to effect shipping and commerce. Yes, this is having a dramatic effect on those of us who live here.

My gut and common sense tell me that there are other factors contributing to Lake Michigan's falling levels. I'm sure the observed effects are dramatic, but I believe there's a more complicated answer.

48 posted on 02/25/2013 7:01:10 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: wiggen
Rate of the water returning. It’s not difficult to imagine its being removed faster than it can be replenished.

Removed faster than it's being replenished, but by what mechanisms? Certainly not by water bottling alone. A single decent rain storm can probably dump more water into the lake than the bottler can remove in a year.

And who's to say the lake level doesn't fluctuate over time? I'll bet records show that it does.

49 posted on 02/25/2013 7:12:09 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: chessplayer

And whatever they’re doing in Congress seems mutual.


50 posted on 02/25/2013 7:29:29 AM PST by onedoug
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