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Libertarians' Awkward Bedfellows
Townhall.com ^ | February 27, 2013 | John Stossel

Posted on 02/27/2013 9:28:02 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: joe fonebone
are you really a conservative, or just a gop-e operative??

 

How very telling that a libertarian is not even intelligent enough to know the difference.

81 posted on 02/27/2013 12:19:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I’ve made that same post probably a dozen times in the six years I have been here. As true now as it ever was.


82 posted on 02/27/2013 12:19:57 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Notary Sojac

If we had the functionality here, I would click “Like” on your comment!


83 posted on 02/27/2013 12:20:11 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Notary Sojac

1. All states recognize murder as a crime.
2. We do have many federal laws against murder. Check US Code Chapter 51. At that, section 1111 federally defines the classifications of murder (1st degree, 2nd degree and so on..) States are just the ones who enforce this in most cases but the law is federal.


84 posted on 02/27/2013 12:21:30 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Dead Corpse; joe fonebone

Did you notice one of those ideals I reject is support of gay marriage?

Hell, I don’t know if even Fonebone is aware that he endorsed faggotry, but look again at post 63.

This is what I’ve been talking about. You guys are FINE with abortion or same-sex marriage or any other evil under the sun. Why? Because of the 10th Amendment.

To hell with that. Why are you so afraid of a new amendment granting rights to the unborn or one that protects the sanctity of marriage?

Why?


85 posted on 02/27/2013 12:27:20 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Notary Sojac

We laugh, but there really are people here who think if we had our way we’d be busting our asses to get their kids high, open a whore house next door to a pre school and turn convert their wives to lesbians. Nevermind that no other group will stand with them on scrapping gun control, repealing the income tax and scrapping a dozen or so cabinet level departments. Nope...more important to keep hatin’ on them damn potheads!


86 posted on 02/27/2013 12:29:35 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Now you’re just making it up.

Please show me where I supported gay marriage and abortion.


87 posted on 02/27/2013 12:30:38 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Responsibility2nd
I don't support gay marriage. Then again, I don't support government sanctioned licensing of marriage either.

And no, you either can't read or are being intentional stupid about my stance on the abortion issue. Kind of funny in a sick, sad, and pathetic way this myopia of yours...

Peddle your Bigger Nanny State government bullsh*t elsewhere. We've heard that line before...

88 posted on 02/27/2013 12:32:16 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: morphing libertarian

Did I ping you? Did I?

Evidently you do support gay marriage and abortion or you would not have knee-jerked a reply like that.


89 posted on 02/27/2013 12:33:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Would a user of legal pot be failing his responsibility to his fellow man in any way?

As long as he stays off the dole, and doesn't ask for free medical care for the complications from pot smoking, no. But he is failing his responsibility to himself.

If one grows his own, and wants to go through life stoned and stupid, that is his decision.

Not now it isn't. Do you agree that it should be?

Balderdash. Most pot smokers never get busted for smoking, so they have that decision. The same if I decide to speed. But both have their consequences.

Liberty may not be "beneficial"

According to the Christian ethic, drug use is not a liberty, it is a vice, as is drunkenness (but not drinking per se, and there is a difference).

Liberals argue that Obamacare is "beneficial to society as a whole"

They can say that, but it doesn't make it true. My point was that pot smoking is neither beneficial to the user OR to society, and it is a vice that shouldn't be legalized.

90 posted on 02/27/2013 12:35:39 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Evidently you will make up anything when it fits your stereotype.

Rant on without me


91 posted on 02/27/2013 12:38:58 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Dead Corpse
I don't support gay marriage.

I don't believe you. I believe you support the 10th so much so that if a fag-centric state passes gay marriage laws, then you might not like it, but you would support the citizens of that state to promote ass-buggery. And that - by default - is endorsing gay marriages.

Then again, I don't support government sanctioned licensing of marriage either.

There ya have it. That is a liberal comment if ever there was one.

92 posted on 02/27/2013 12:39:08 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: morphing libertarian

“Rant on without me”

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How can I miss you if you won’t go away?


93 posted on 02/27/2013 12:41:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kaslin
Stossel and Coulter have disappointed me lately. Both seem to come across as "holier than thou" to me, but, that's just me. Pretty much full of themselves.

FMCDH(BITS)

94 posted on 02/27/2013 12:46:18 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Lets do a test. Stop replying and see what happens.


95 posted on 02/27/2013 12:47:39 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Responsibility2nd
You can call me a liar if you like, but you'd still be an idiot.

And actually, I support the 1St Amendment every bit as much as the 10th. If my religion says "no Gay marriage"... It isn't up to your beloved government to tell me otherwise.

At least, it wouldn't be if you idiots didn't want perks for marriage and went the "license" route.

Your logic is in pretzels and you have no clue what you are advocating...

96 posted on 02/27/2013 12:52:04 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Great. So you DENY gay marriage activists the right to use the 10th to promote faggotry in states like Massachesetts. That’s not a libertarian viewpoint, but I applaud you for thinking conservatively.

Now. What do you have against the government (state or FedGov) endorsing, supporting and promoting traditional marriages? Take away any and all religious aspects of marriage and you still have an ECONOMIC reason for the government to promote marriage. Marriages have been the backbone of a healthy society for hundreds of centuries. And we can easily see - since LBJ and his Great Society programs - what a systematic government endorsed destruction of marriage has done to our society.

Yet you advocate for the government to abandon “the “license” route”?

Wow. You must really love the results of that abandonment - the Welfare State.


97 posted on 02/27/2013 1:04:58 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
That’s not a libertarian viewpoint...

Actually, it is. From the philosophy, not the political Party.

Take away any and all religious aspects of marriage... And you lose the argument. Without the religious bias, there is no real reason to deny gay/polygamy type arrangements. In fact, you run afoul of the equal protection clause. Take that away, and it's a non-issue. You also set yourself up for what we have now, government telling religious that they can't have a bias against practices they find abhorrent. Nice going Ace...

Welfare? Non sequitor... I'd cut off all public welfare programs tomorrow. Full stop. EBT cards ring ZERO as of Midnight tonight. All taxes paid in to pay for such a waste of resources are immediately charged back to tax payers accounts. Earn your keep or starve to death. Private charities would be your only recourse.

There's something none of your GOP-e Nanny State hero's would have the balls to go after...

98 posted on 02/27/2013 1:17:41 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Dead Corpse

To try to get this back a little more civil, what do you think about this proposal by a pretty rational libertarian friend?

Instead of redefining marriage or getting it out of the legal realm, how about simply making it illegal for the government to ask for or track anyone’s gender or orientation? Then, instead of it being a marriage issue, it is a privacy issue. The contract is blind to gender just like it is blind to race?


99 posted on 02/27/2013 1:19:58 PM PST by mnehring
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To: babble-on

in before the zot, too sensible to be tolerated


bable on...


100 posted on 02/27/2013 1:23:03 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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