Posted on 02/27/2013 9:28:02 AM PST by Kaslin
Typical bad reasoning and name calling.
i left lp because of abortion amongst others.
People have the right to life so why would the constitution address abortion
The first question you answer. Don’t know what gives the Feds any say over marriage
You have no strong reasons to support the war on drugs except typical nanny state.
See both of us can name call
If you come back with that weaka$$ bs I
Ll not respond, so bring your a game.
...the Judeo-Christian foundation was necessary starting point for our country, as it had a balance between the rights of the individual along with their responsibility to their fellow man.
In short, liberty is summed up in this ethic. License is any deviation from it. Now, you may claim that I am being moralistic, but all law is derived from someone's morality.
OK.... here we go..
I am a small l libertarian. I, like most small l libertarians beleive..
1) that abortion is not only wrong, but is not a power granted to the federal government. Get the feds out of this area of our lives ( by default, according to our constitution, this becomes a 10th amendment issue )
2) the war on drugs is a dismal failure. This is not about “smoking pot” as so many so called conservatives insist. This is a basic liberty and financial issue. How many have been killed, imprisoned, or had there homes disassembled in the name of the war on drugs? How many alphabet agencies sole existence is due to the war on drugs? how much money and human capital is spent?
3) back to the war on drugs. How come my doctor cannot prescribe painkillers to me without PERMISSION from the feds? How come i cannot go into the drugstore and buy antihistimines without signing my name? this war on drugs has crawled into everyone’s personal lives.. look at rush limbaugh and his medical history splattered all over the news.. war on drugs..
3) gay marriage... not a power granted to the feds, so by default, it is a 10th amendment issue.
4) what part of the words “illegal immigrant” are so hard to understand. illegal means illegal. go to jail, then go back home and do it the right way.
5) the best defense is an overwhelming and sustainable offensive capability. However, this does not make us the worlds policemen...
So, with this all in mind, how far apart are we really?
That’s not personal responsibility that’s government responsibility.
Most libertarians and conservatives I know object to their tax money being wasted on pipe dreams and hopeless causes.
What responsibility to one's fellow man does one fail by smoking pot?
Also: Where in the Constitution do you see the rights to restrict marriage to straights only?
And.... Where in the Constitution do you see the rights to deny an abortion?
The trouble with you liberals is that you treat the Constitution as toilet paper
Backward - it's your dismissing Constitutional concerns as "typical liberal talking points" that is treating the Constitution as toilet paper.
#1> no one may be deprived of life without due process of law guaranteed by the constitution. That makes it a federal issue, not a 10th issue.
#4> congress is given sole authority in Article 1 section 8 to set clear standards for measures such as legal terms. Again not a 10th issue.
I’ll get to the others when I’m not on my tablet.
So, with this all in mind, how far apart are we really?
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As East is from the West. Look - I get it. Libertarians are the reason why The GOP is stuck with RINO’s and why us SoCons will never ever likely have any political voice in DC.
You libs have more - much more - in common with the Democratic Party than the traditional Republican Party, and while I mourn the loss of the country I once knew, I will NOT endorse your ideals.
Considering what the establishment offers up every cycle, that's like choosing the venereal disease that's just right for me.
ROTFL!
VD is easier to get rid of.
Well, until pot is legalized OR unless one grows his own, he is failing his fellow man by supporting drug dealers and suppliers who are responsible for a large percentage of crime and deaths in the country.
If one grows his own, and wants to go through life stoned and stupid, that is his decision. But I don't think legalizing his vice is beneficial to him or to society as a whole.
Free Republic, 364 days out of the year:
"You libertarians are all dope fiends and light in the loafers. You're all smelly hippies, and God hates you. Get out of our movement, get out of FR, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way."
Free Republic, the day after election day:
"Hey, how come you libertarians didn't vote for our guy?"
now i get it..
debate and discussion is out of the question..
better to call names and alienate..
are you really a conservative, or just a gop-e operative??
it is fairly obvious from your many responses that you just do not believe in either the constitution, or personal responsibility...
just sign your name on the document labeled “Nanny State Supporter” and move on...
And yet different states have different definitions of what constitutes "murder" and differing penalties. We don't have a federal law against murder, yet amazingly enough it's pretty rare.
Well, until pot is legalized OR unless one grows his own, he is failing his fellow man by supporting drug dealers and suppliers who are responsible for a large percentage of crime and deaths in the country.
And once pot is legalized he is not. Would a user of legal pot be failing his responsibility to his fellow man in any way?
If one grows his own, and wants to go through life stoned and stupid, that is his decision.
Not now it isn't. Do you agree that it should be?
But I don't think legalizing his vice is beneficial to him or to society as a whole.
Liberty may not be "beneficial" - but it's not the proper business of government to restrict his liberties for his "benefit" or society's, any more than it should mandate a personally or societally "beneficial" bedtime for him. Liberals argue that Obamacare is "beneficial to society as a whole" - do we have to argue that it isn't to argue against Obamacare, or is liberty a good in itself?
funny, I saw 72 posts above this one of just that. Or are you really upset he isn't just bending over and agreeing with you?
Ideas like strict adherence to the Constitution.
Yeah... We get your message loud and clear.
"Freedom is icky, we're all Evil and need a Nanny State to make us all behave."
Old hat from you guys...
Free Republic, the day after election day:
"Hey, how come you libertarians didn't vote for our guy?"
LMAO! This thread is full of funny posts - and in your case the humor was intentional.
Here are some other great truths I posted within that thread.
A person doing 120mph on an empty highway is a threat only to himself and as such that person should solely bear the consequences of his actions.
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GeronL didn’t say empty highway, now did he. And these useless dopers are not on any empty highway in our society, now are they?
Nope, while you cheer them on in their right to crush themselves, their loved ones and our society in the pursuit of dangerous drugs, don’t forget to smile as you pay more and more taxes to sustain their sorry welfare funded existence.
Or do you naively believe these cretins are healthy productive members of society and besides... the taxes that the gubmint would be collecting will cover any problems?
Wow.
Bookmarked.
Wow?
Assign my statement to parents right over a child. Still stay wow? How about some felon tried and convicted by a jury of his peers and is in prison and a warden is in control of his rights and freedoms? No wow there, is it?
Me? I would demand and expect welfare recipients and Section 8 citizens be subjected to random drug tests. Why should they get a pass when I - as a tax paying productive citizen - have to pee in a cup to get a job and they don’t, yet they collect thousands in taxpayer monies.
You don’t think I have a right to control that aspect of their life? Sure you do.
So yeah. Use drugs and live an immoral, unproductive, socially damaging illegal lifestyle and clean your ears out as I repeat:
I DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTROL YOU.
(Bookmark this too.)
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