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To: Responsibility2nd

OK.... here we go..

I am a small l libertarian. I, like most small l libertarians beleive..

1) that abortion is not only wrong, but is not a power granted to the federal government. Get the feds out of this area of our lives ( by default, according to our constitution, this becomes a 10th amendment issue )

2) the war on drugs is a dismal failure. This is not about “smoking pot” as so many so called conservatives insist. This is a basic liberty and financial issue. How many have been killed, imprisoned, or had there homes disassembled in the name of the war on drugs? How many alphabet agencies sole existence is due to the war on drugs? how much money and human capital is spent?

3) back to the war on drugs. How come my doctor cannot prescribe painkillers to me without PERMISSION from the feds? How come i cannot go into the drugstore and buy antihistimines without signing my name? this war on drugs has crawled into everyone’s personal lives.. look at rush limbaugh and his medical history splattered all over the news.. war on drugs..

3) gay marriage... not a power granted to the feds, so by default, it is a 10th amendment issue.

4) what part of the words “illegal immigrant” are so hard to understand. illegal means illegal. go to jail, then go back home and do it the right way.

5) the best defense is an overwhelming and sustainable offensive capability. However, this does not make us the worlds policemen...

So, with this all in mind, how far apart are we really?


63 posted on 02/27/2013 11:22:04 AM PST by joe fonebone (The clueless... they walk among us, and they vote...)
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To: joe fonebone

#1> no one may be deprived of life without due process of law guaranteed by the constitution. That makes it a federal issue, not a 10th issue.

#4> congress is given sole authority in Article 1 section 8 to set clear standards for measures such as legal terms. Again not a 10th issue.

I’ll get to the others when I’m not on my tablet.


67 posted on 02/27/2013 11:40:19 AM PST by mnehring
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To: joe fonebone

So, with this all in mind, how far apart are we really?

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As East is from the West. Look - I get it. Libertarians are the reason why The GOP is stuck with RINO’s and why us SoCons will never ever likely have any political voice in DC.

You libs have more - much more - in common with the Democratic Party than the traditional Republican Party, and while I mourn the loss of the country I once knew, I will NOT endorse your ideals.


68 posted on 02/27/2013 11:41:10 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: joe fonebone
Joe:

Of course there is a lot of common ground for constitution freindly libertarians and small government conservatives. We have seen the unity here on this site over the years in many areas.

One of the things that happens is that on both sides of this minor divide are (1) libertarians that are more doctrinaire or ideological as opposed to constitutional, and (2) conservatives that are apt to forget small government preferences due to political expediency. What happens then is that rather than take a push from their brothers on the other side of the creek, to pull their boat into line, they try to rationalize or excuse that drift by claiming the other fellow has his seamanship all wrong anyway.

When we fail in our real world endeavors (see Bush supporters or more recently Rand Paul supporters) we retreat to the philosophical differences and then get mired down in name calling and theory debates.

Both sides have their inconsistencies and we need to see that we can make a good navy if we just realize we all travel to the battle on slightly different vessels.

109 posted on 02/27/2013 1:48:19 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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