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NJ Chief: A senior WH official got so belligerent with me, I had to drop him as a source
Hot Air ^ | 3:21 pm on February 28, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/28/2013 12:36:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Woodward, Lanny Davis, and now Ron Fournier. How come it’s the older, more established D.C. hands who are piping up about being strongarmed by the White House and not the younger, less established ones? Is it because the young’uns have developed a thicker skin from being challenged more often? Because they’re small enough potatoes that Team Hopenchange doesn’t bother wasting much time yelling at them? Because Woodward and Fournier are better positioned career-wise to challenge the White House? Or because younger liberal journos are “team players” for The One in a way that older reporters simply aren’t?

Anyway. Another ray of sunshine:

I decided to share this encounter because it might shed light on the increasingly toxic relationship between media and government, which is why the Woodward flap matters outside the Beltway…

The official angered by my Woodward tweet sent me an indignant e-mail. “What’s next, a Nazi analogy?” the official wrote, chastising me for spreading “bull**** like that” I was not offended by the note, mild in comparison to past exchanges with this official. But it was the last straw in a relationship that had deteriorated.

As editor-in-chief of National Journal, I received several e-mails and telephone calls from this White House official filled with vulgarity, abusive language, and virtually the same phrase that Woodward called a veiled threat. “You will regret staking out that claim,” The Washington Post reporter was told…

Once I moved back to daily reporting this year, the badgering intensified. I wrote Saturday night, asking the official to stop e-mailing me. The official wrote, challenging Woodward and my tweet. “Get off your high horse and assess the facts, Ron,” the official wrote.

He ends, as did Woodward and as any indictment of White House boorishness evidently must as a matter of professional obligation, by noting that St. Barack would surely frown upon such treatment — even though Obama chooses to surround himself with people like Rahm Emanuel and Fournier’s source and he not-so-secretly disdains the media despite their adulation of him. Let’s pick a narrative, guys. Either (a) this sort of antagonism is wholly unremarkable for modern presidential administrations when dealing with the press behind the scenes, in which case there’s no reason to assume Obama doesn’t know or approve of it, or (b) it is remarkable in its nastiness, in which case either Obama’s a much nastier customer than thought or he’s lost control of his inner circle vis-a-vis media relations. Reason’s Mike Riggs spent some time today compiling stories from the past few years about Obama lackeys freaking out or even cutting off access over coverage that threw a little sand in the gears of their image-management machine. Is that normal for the White House in eras past, or is it so crucially important to the Celebrity Presidency that his aides are forced to get a bit rougher with reporters than usual? Only the media knows, but between the risks of losing access, harming their careers, and hurting “the cause,” they have little incentive to come clean. You need someone like Woodward or Fournier who’s well established and particularly pissed off to gain any insight. Otherwise, you’ll have to settle for hints:

Woodward himself is now toning things down a bit, per Erik Wemple at WaPo:

Pressed moments ago on whether he’d ever used the term “threat” or “threatened” by the e-mail, Woodward responded, “No, I have not….I am uncomfortable because it is not the way to operate,” he said. When asked whether he felt there’d be payback on this front, Woodward declined to get into that matter.

But there already has been payback, not from the White House but more broadly from what Matt Welch labels Planet Liberalism. NBC’s now calling Woodward a “temporary spokesman” for one of the two major parties with not a hint of irony. Like Noah Rothman says, whether it’s Team O or just their fans in the media doing the dirty work, Woodward will end up regretting this.

Update: Via Josh Kraushaar, no threats, just a little reputational tear-down:

“Inside the West Wing, Woodward is viewed, one top Democrat said, as a “self-righteous kook,” while an administration official said he “has been going nuts for no good reason.”



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; genesperling; madness; obama; partisanmediashills; sequester; whmediarelations; woodward

1 posted on 02/28/2013 12:36:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Either march to the drummer or crawl......Obama


2 posted on 02/28/2013 12:38:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Because the younger reporters are already lock step sell out marxists.


3 posted on 02/28/2013 12:40:35 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That ain’t nothing. I had the White Hut threaten me with ObamaCare, gun control, higher taxes, more spending and an ever growing government to look over me.


4 posted on 02/28/2013 12:41:37 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Woodward, Fournier and Davis are and have always been just a bunch of GOP operatives.” - Ben Smith, Chuck Todd and the rest.


5 posted on 02/28/2013 12:43:59 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BHO2 doesn’t talk to reporters because he cannot stay on script, or within character, without making all those little verbal slip-ups that finger him as a usurper.


6 posted on 02/28/2013 12:46:36 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ron Fournier is an in-the-tank socialist.

If he’s willing to say anything against the 0bamatrons, they’ve really gone beyond the pale.


7 posted on 02/28/2013 12:57:58 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Funny how libs LOVED Woodward when he went after Nixon, but now they think he’s a kook LOL..Woodward is only a “kook” when he shows what a Commie fruitcake the libs savior Obama is..if a Republican were in the White House and Woodward revealed the same email and conversation the left would hail Woodward a hero


8 posted on 02/28/2013 1:00:50 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’ll bet that Woodward has filing cabinets labeled “O” that run to several drawers full of stuff that just might inspire our spineless congress to impeach the ‘one’. He is lobbing soft serves over the net here waiting to see what happens.


9 posted on 02/28/2013 1:15:42 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The tolerant left acting belligerent? Must be a vast right wing conspiracy...


10 posted on 02/28/2013 1:18:02 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Street thugs, just like a couple of other political parties that took power in Russia and Germany during the last century.


11 posted on 02/28/2013 1:19:14 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Having your enemies declared insane and then committed is one of the stock moves of the Bolsheviks during the whole USSR experiment.

Obama’s not even original. We’ll see if it works. Who’s crazier: the guy spending money, literally, like there is no tomorrow, or the guy pointing out that unless there is money for national defense, the rest of it is moot.


12 posted on 02/28/2013 1:21:25 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Don Corleone
Obama ran one of his women for Senate in Massachusetts. When she was on a trip to DC she seems to have directed one of her staffers accompanying her to assassinate a reporter who got a little close and asked questions they didn't want to answer.

With that the Obama regime was recognized for what it really is ~ truly muderous!

He's got one of his women on the Supreme Court ~ the big gal from Harvard. She could be packing a Hamas suicide bomb belt under her gown and nobody would notice until it was too late.

I think the younger reporters, and maybe the older ones, know what they're dealing with and they fear death ~ up until now they haven't been talking!

13 posted on 02/28/2013 1:31:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The dems have had the media kissing their a$$ for too long. They are used to it. If the media steps out of line even a little, they act like a spoiled monarch who doesn’t get his way.


14 posted on 02/28/2013 1:55:13 PM PST by I want the USA back (The liberal elite is a bunch of hypocritical statists who scorn the ordinary people.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
I don't understand why so many are panning this or making fun of Woodward for speaking out. I think it's great, Woodward is a well established writer/author and already some others are speaking out. Isn't this something we've wished for???


15 posted on 02/28/2013 2:37:07 PM PST by potlatch
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To: potlatch

Oh, NICE!


16 posted on 02/28/2013 2:47:27 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Don Corleone

I agree. This guy has seen and heard it all and there is no way he just jumped into this without proof or an end game.


17 posted on 02/28/2013 2:48:26 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Woodward, Fournier, and Davis just declared that the emperor has no clothes. What will the "media" do?

MSNBC Fake News, NBC and CBS "News", will ignore it; ABC "News" will edit a video of it to make Woodward look stupid; FNC will report it but allow a Dem operative to come on and rail against Fox; and CNN will stupidly look into the camera, blink and go, "Uhhhhhhhhhh.....".

18 posted on 02/28/2013 2:48:33 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thank you Ernest.


19 posted on 02/28/2013 3:09:30 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; flaglady47; oswegodeee; Chigirl 26; mickie; hoosiermama; prairiebreeze; ...
Bob Woodward comes from a good suburban Chicago family. I knew his late father, Al Woodward (R.), Chief Judge of the 18th Circuit Court based in Wheaton, the Du Page county seat. A fine man and a fair judge.

As he ages, I look for Bob to begin to shake the long-time, seductive DC stardust off his shoulders and out of his eyes.....and return more and more to his solid middle-west roots. At least, I pray he does. This current flap may well be a sign.

We should stand behind him on this issue of Obama's administration's Chicago Way of thuggery, threats, revenge and character assassination.

Leni

20 posted on 02/28/2013 3:30:35 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: potlatch; TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; onyx; justa-hairyape; SunkenCiv; blam; GeronL; SJackson; ...

Potlach has blessed us with a nice Graphic....outh to be spread around.


21 posted on 02/28/2013 3:32:28 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: MinuteGal

I agree, for what its worth. Every liberal eventually has their moment of realization, some admit it, most don’t. I don’t see how a conservative can be critical of him, he is going public with what we have always known about Obama. He has the credibility as well as an audience.


22 posted on 02/28/2013 3:39:06 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Large as it is I forgot to put in that Woodward mentioned Obama’s “madness”. That would have stung Obozo good, lol. It does need to be spread that sequester WAS Obama’s idea - and then he lied about it. Drudge has more links up - the dems are irate, hehehe...
Thanks for your kind words.


23 posted on 02/28/2013 3:45:53 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When such a scandal happens to a legally operating and functional government organization, the response is typically the following.

-We apologize for any perceived threats.
-We will fully investigate the matter.
-We will remove any personal who made any conceivable threatening remarks.

When such a scandal happens to an illegally operating and dysfunctional government organization, the response is typically the following.

-Deny the threat happened even though there are email records.
-Attack the accuser.
-Offer no apologies.
-Claim that the opposition party also did the same.
-etc. etc.

24 posted on 02/28/2013 3:46:57 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: muawiyah
He's got one of his women on the Supreme Court ~ the big gal from Harvard. She could be packing a Hamas suicide bomb belt under her gown and nobody would notice until it was too late.

You've been here a long time.......

No reason to go kooky on us, is there?

25 posted on 02/28/2013 3:54:46 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Osage Orange
I don't ever trust Democrats ~ and they've never let me down. If one of his thugs thought Obama could get a chance to pick a whole new USSC simply by blowing them all up, they'd try it.

Kagan is just the type to be able to slip a suicide belt into the court without suspicion ~ you can just imagine how ungainly Ruthy or that crazy latina would look ~ entirely too thin ~ no girth.

No time to slip back into pre-911 ways of thinking.

26 posted on 02/28/2013 3:58:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: potlatch
Foxnews is all over this,....and Woodward will appear tonight on Hannity.

Might be more material coming..~!!!

27 posted on 02/28/2013 4:01:59 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The official angered by my Woodward tweet sent me an indignant e-mail. “What’s next, a Nazi analogy?” the official wrote, chastising me for spreading “bull**** like that”

They warned Woodward he would regret it.
Here comes the character assassination assault.

Rules for Radicals - Saul Alinsky

RULE 13: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.


28 posted on 02/28/2013 4:24:05 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: muawiyah
Kagan is just the type to be able to slip a suicide belt into the court without suspicion ~ you can just imagine how ungainly Ruthy or that crazy latina would look ~ entirely too thin ~ no girth.

Crazy nut job talk!!

Okay...You've officially gone off the rails into KOOK land!

Look FReeper's muawiyah has gone crazy!!

Just the thing the left that monitor FR are looking for.....

Congrats.....

29 posted on 02/28/2013 4:26:21 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ern, I saw that on Special Report too! Hope we hear more!


30 posted on 02/28/2013 4:32:19 PM PST by potlatch
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.
He ends, as did Woodward and as any indictment of White House boorishness evidently must as a matter of professional obligation, by noting that St. Barack would surely frown upon such treatment
Yeah, that's because they're Partisan Media Shills; they're coming out about this treatment (and what do they expect, they claim they are journalists and are supposed to have an adversarial relationship with politicians and bureaucrats) but the idea that Zero isn't behind every bit of it is no more credible than the idea that he had no involvement in the smearing of Jack Ryan.


31 posted on 02/28/2013 4:34:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Osage Orange
Now you are sounding totally paranoid ~ leftwingtards risk the loss of their souls monitoring FR.

Besides, it's all in good fun ~ imagining Kagan as a potential terrorist mad bomber is certainly far more rational than blaming George Bush for everything.

Besides, Kagan is her own worst enemy ~ she can shed those extra 250 pounds if she really wants.

32 posted on 02/28/2013 4:49:13 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Oh...all in good fun now.

Great.

But my B.S. meter is still pegging......

You swerved into kookland...and maybe have attempted to swerve back here....to "save" yourself.

Fair enough...but I've seen this type crap before.

33 posted on 02/28/2013 5:00:14 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Osage Orange
But you delete it all before you send it to the world ~ right?

I ran a thing about Ruthy Ginsberg being a high risk to her (Now dead) hubby for 15 years ~ concerned the prospect of her poisoning his coffee.

That started out based on a story of how cozy this little thorn bush was at home ~ actually made her husband morning coffee every day before she went out to destroy America and enslave the people.

All in good fun with leftwingtards (that word's misspelled lest you missed that part).

If you can't have fun poking stinging barbs into your opponents' hearts and butts, well, that's just a life not worth living is it.

34 posted on 02/28/2013 5:07:16 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I notice all the leftist media trying to defend the admin tend to leave out what the subject matter was that put the burr under the admin’s saddle.
The burr was referring to the “madness” of Obama misusing the sequester as an excuse for not deploying an aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf.


35 posted on 02/28/2013 5:10:45 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pile on
pile on
pile on
36 posted on 02/28/2013 6:07:25 PM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I don’t know what to say.


37 posted on 02/28/2013 9:02:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: muawiyah
Besides, Kagan is her own worst enemy ~ she can shed those extra 250 pounds if she really wants.

She certainly will if she presses the button on that instant fat remover strapped around her chest.

38 posted on 02/28/2013 9:12:21 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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