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The Great Ammunition Myth - The government is not planning a violent putdown of civil unrest.
National Review Online ^ | March 5, 2013 | Charles C. W. Cooke

Posted on 03/05/2013 4:31:55 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Strategerist
And I'M the skeptic. I lifted a finger to research the false assertions about the 2,700 MRAPs, while everyone else just eagerly lapped up Drudge and the original nutter report.

I forgot to thank you for that, by the way.

101 posted on 03/06/2013 1:31:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ctdonath2

73 was meant for you, I did not see the 2 before


102 posted on 03/06/2013 6:21:00 AM PST by DBrow
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To: FewsOrange
Given that we're winding down in Afghanistan isn't it time we return to pre-9/11 security levels? Defund and eliminate the DHS. Return law enforcement duties back to the FBI and local law enforcement.

Most agencies don't need a police force and now local and state secretaries have police forces. What we see on the national level is repeated over and over again lower down.

Furthermore, even the police who are civilians call the people they protect “civilians”. They think of themselves as paramilitary. It's not a good move for a republic to have that many armed "guards".

103 posted on 03/06/2013 6:30:44 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mnehring

Sorry, the question is: Why expensive hollow points for punching holes in paper?

Isn’t that either a huge waste of money at the range or a stockpile for use against me and thee?


104 posted on 03/06/2013 6:51:24 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
DHS has a total of 240,000 employees. If you have a source for how many of those 240,000 are armed agents, I'd love to see it.
Otherwise, what you offer isn't logical deduction. It's a guess.


I used the numbers from the article and deduced it would be similar across the board.
That is unless they've consolidated all DHS armed agents into 2 death squads with like 15 guys each or something. If that's the case then they have something like 150,000 rounds each per year to secretly ninja-kill all Tea partiers. So for me it's either use some common sense or jst go with the extreme paranoia.
105 posted on 03/06/2013 7:30:28 AM PST by brent13a
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To: lurk

357 SIG.
Basically a .40SW round necked-down to 9mm.
It was supposed to provide .357 magnum performance in an auto-loading pistol.


106 posted on 03/06/2013 8:29:30 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Uncle Miltie

It isn’t that much of a difference. Plus it may be cheaper contracting for a single type versus, multiple blocks that need separate inventory logistics. (Ie not just the cost of the bullet but managing where it goes, etc.)


107 posted on 03/06/2013 8:30:54 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Ajnin

Yep.
If you can afford it, it’s always best to practice with the exact same rounds you carry.


108 posted on 03/06/2013 8:30:54 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: FewsOrange

I thought the survival of the cockroaches would be supplemented by the survivability of Keith Richards (Rolling Stone)

I doubt anything would kill that guy...;-)


109 posted on 03/06/2013 8:45:37 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: neverdem

With the explanation in this article, I feel so much better...

/sarc

Yeah, I said it, “/sarc”!!! ;-)


110 posted on 03/06/2013 8:47:36 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’ve got a completely rational fear that my 70 year old butterball of a postmistress is going to kick down my door, roll into the room and start shooting.

That's only "going postal", isn't it?

111 posted on 03/06/2013 9:16:44 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Why hollow-points?

'Cause they're less survivable than the FMJs?

112 posted on 03/06/2013 9:20:12 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: brent13a
Are they going to have like 3 giant parking lots in a few places around the US just full of APC's?

Hope so; it greatly simplifies our targeting.

113 posted on 03/06/2013 9:27:32 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Hog Wash


114 posted on 03/06/2013 9:30:36 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: JimRed

Hog Wash


115 posted on 03/06/2013 9:30:50 AM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: neverdem

I trying to listen to Rush and Rand Paul at the same time. But I will read this later.


116 posted on 03/06/2013 10:52:10 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: neverdem
These are not the bullets you are looking for....


I think I saw that in a movie, Obi Wan...

117 posted on 03/06/2013 10:58:56 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: neverdem
Drones, 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, MRAPS, electronic surveillance, DHS memos regarding "potential domestic terrorists", Fast and Furious, talk of killing Americans on US soil without due process, etc.

I'm sure it's all just nothing.

"You have nothing to worry about. Everyone can relax."

118 posted on 03/06/2013 11:42:49 AM PST by SIDENET
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To: FewsOrange
The author is trying to use rational arguments against a conspiracy theory.

All government perpetrated mass genocides were preceded by a conspiracy theory.

Thank goodness the dead had you to pooh-pooh their fears instead of helping them prepare for the worse just in case.

To start with seven million dead Jews owe people like you their lives literally.

If we we ever get hit by a massive asteroid the only things that will survive will be cockroaches and conspiracy theories.

So there will be two camps. People like me in the conspiracy theorist camp and people like you in the other.

119 posted on 03/06/2013 2:20:58 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: brent13a
And maybe every armed government agent is a trained handgun sniper that will kill with every shot he/she takes.

What the hell is a "handgun sniper"?

Is that a made up media term like "clips for your automatic assault pistol"?

Or is it a marketing term like "jumbo shrimp"?

Because, when you divvy up the yearly amount of allotted ammo per agent 500-1000 rounds is much much more than any TEA partier or lifelong hunter will have stockpiled.

Are you kidding? Have you ever shot a gun? Have you ever even seen a gun?

I have a minimum of 500 rounds for every caliber of gun I own which totals up to a hell of a lot more than 1000 rounds. All of my friends have the same so you are so far off base you aren't even in the same city. It might behoove you to stick with American Idol threads.

120 posted on 03/06/2013 2:29:25 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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