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Putting people out of business so the government is the only source of income for families fits in perfectly with the Cloward-Piven Strategy of Manufactured Crisis - a plan to lead to the collapse of capitalism and America by inverting the pyramid so that the government-dependent are a huge group supported by the taxes of the few who still have jobs. It’s unsustainable. They know it’s unsustainable. Their goal is the collapse of America and of capitalism.

George Soros (who has said he has bought and paid for the democratic party and owns it) has said that he believes he is God and as God his chief goal is to destroy capitalism and America, which he views as the world’s great evils. Hobby Lobby is evil in his eyes, because the greater good would be for the government to have control of all manufacturing and to dish out to every citizen of the world just how much money the government wants everybody to have. That way there wouldn’t be any competition, nobody would be left in the dust, and everybody would be HAPPY (or so Soros thinks). Never mind that communism has failed everywhere it has been tried, because it doesn’t factor in the human need for motivation.

Vikingkitties and fogbowers, please take note of this and stop with the brain-dead “misunderstanding” of what I’ve been saying. Soros thinks he is doing good. He thinks that freedom should be sacrificed for security, and that communism is the answer to the world’s problems. This is what he himself has said publicly. He is afraid that the US will win the “war on terror” because then America and capitalism will be strong, and he believes America and capitalism are the world’s greatest evils.

He makes lots and lots of money by exploiting the free market system but his intent is to destroy the very hand that feeds him - because he thinks he is God and thinks a benevolent world dictatorship of government bureaucrats should be making all the decisions for the little people (he, of course, would be exempted. The top-dog communists are always exempt from the same rules that the little people are stuck with - because they have the POWER, and that is all that matters).

In his “perfect world”, the government should decide how many rooms and what design your house can have (the same one as everybody else!). The government should decide what hours you should work, at what job you should work, and how much you should get paid for that work. The government should decide which medicines you are allowed to have, how much you are allowed to eat, and what you eat. The government should decide what you can ingest mentally and what you can output mentally. The government will decide what is OK for you to believe and what information you are able to access.

Sounds just like Islam. Sounds the OPPOSITE of the God of the Bible, who allows human choice and freedom. Our Declaration of Independence is NOT religiously neutral. It says that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain rights that can never be taken away - only infringed by government overstepping its bounds. Our founding document affirms the FREEDOMS that are “self-evident”. Those freedoms are NOT “self-evident” to Islam or to a host of other worldviews, including communism. America is the enemy, to those other worldviews, because America upholds both freedom and the One who has ordained freedom.

Communism and Islamism have the same end goal. Once freedom is destroyed, the only remaining issue is who gets to be God. George Soros, Vladimir Putin, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? ALL of them would do what they think is best for the rest of the world - which they’ve already shown is NOT freedom.

These people do not THINK they are evil. No tyrant thinks they are evil; they’re always just doing what they think is best. Adolf Hitler didn’t think he was evil; he was simply getting rid of “defectives” for the good of Germany. But they all ARE evil, because they are enemies of life and freedom. They are not God but are trying to steal the Lordship of the One who really IS God - the One who reveals in the Ten Commandments that individuals have a right to life, to truth, and to possession, and that theft of those things by any other person (or government, acting unjustly) is SIN. Adolf Hitler MURDERED. He took what was not his to take - human lives that neither he nor any other human being CREATED.

Larry Grathwohl observed the discussions of Weather Underground members and described the surreal situation of listening to a group of about 25 people - most of whom had graduate degrees from Columbia University and other “respectable” institutions - figuring out how to exterminate the 25 million people that they expected to resist the switch from the worldview in the Declaration of Independence to communism (the worldview of “benevolent” tyranny, such as is held by George Soros, Vladimir Putin, Fidel Castro, Ahmadinejad, etc and WAS held by Hitler, Mao Zedung, Stalin, Bin Laden, etc). Environmentalists have said that in order for the world to be “sustainable”, 90% of the world’s population has to die. “Carbon offsets” don’t change the amount of carbon in the atmosphere; all they do is redistribute wealth, to try to make the world a “more fair” place, by forcing the “developed” world to give money and resources to the “undeveloped” world.

And trying to provide for the undeveloped world is a good goal, as is healthy living, etc. But the philosophy of tyrants is always that the end justifies the means. If helping some poor starving child in Africa means you have to destroy the spirit and drive of Hobby Lobby (who may well be already contributing lots of money to combat world hunger, as may their employees with the earnings they make...) then so be it. “GOD”/Soros has decided that it’s no good to have people work at Hobby Lobby and freely/willingly give money to help the poor in Africa; instead, Hobby Lobby has to be destroyed and the GOVERNMENT has to take over all the money and decide who gets what. (And we all know that government is the LEAST efficient and most corrupt administrator there is; the people who are efficient are those who are committed to the cause and are using THEIR OWN MONEY and thus have the motivation to use the money wisely. IOW, charities funded and manned by volunteers. The kind of charities that Hobby Lobby and her employees would support, if they were allowed to continue to make a living through honest work while living in accordance with their own conscience and religious belief.)

So Vikingkitties (whichever Freeper you are), you and your liberal friends such as those at Fogbow need to ask yourselves whether you really believe that a well-intentioned Soros, Putin, or Ahmadinejad should really be deciding what clothes you can wear, what food you can eat, what house you can live in, what job you can do, what you get paid, what information and/or entertainment you can access, and what you can believe. Is that REALLY what you support? Because that is what communism and/or Islamism ARE. The freedoms of America and the free choices allowable by capitalism are what George Soros (who self-admittedly owns the democratic party) has publicly declared war on, AS GOD (in his own mind). Is that who you stand with? Is that where your allegiance lies?

The threats, the murders, the lies, the regulations that end up destroying innocent people and controlling the public, the perjury, the fraud, the unconstitutional usurpation, the defiance of judicial orders and lawful subpoenas - that is all just the Obama/Soros regime’s version of “the end justifies the means”. If “God”/Soros decides that some innocent Mexicans have to be killed by drug cartels in order to disarm the American public, that’s not “murder” - that’s just “God” accomplishing his good goals through whatever means are necessary.

What I’ve been saying all along - in the eligibility issue as well as other issues - is that this lawlessness has no end. You might think that this particular “end” (whatever liberal goal you espouse) justifies these lawless means. But it’s all an illusion. The same people who will use gay marriage or healthy living as the reason for “light tyranny” (the crimes I mentioned above) at first will, in the end, use that tyranny to kill gays and ration food and healthcare to people just like you. Soros aligns himself with Ahmadinejad who publicly hangs gays and stones to death teenaged girls for being raped.

I dare you, Vikingkitties, to put this whole context in what you publish from here. Have the courage to engage in TRUE dialog rather than not actually HEARING what I’m saying. I’m torn between laughing at the “misunderstanding” of what I’ve said, and actually trying to engage with people who don’t seem very interested in listening anyway. It’s a free world; people can think what they want to think. But it’s sad when people are suckered by tyrants who are only using them to destroy them later.