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Dems block vote to denounce drone-killing of US citizens on US soil
Washington Examiner ^ | 3/6/13 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 03/06/2013 9:14:04 PM PST by Nachum

Sen. Rand Paul just offered to end his filibuster and allow a vote on CIA nominee John Brennan if he could get a vote tomorrow on a non-binding resolution regarding drone killing of US citizens on US soil. But Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin objected to allowing a vote on the resolution. So Paul resumed speaking.

Paul's resolution said it was the sense of the Senate that "the use of drones to execute or target American citizens on American soil who pose no imminent threat clearly violates Constitutional rights" of due process.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 666; block; dems; dronekilling; drones; holder; obama; randpaul; vote
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To: chris37

I’m curious as to why anyone believes that a resolution or a law or the Constitution will stop these people from doing what they want. They have demonstrated repeatedly that they believe themselves above the law.


21 posted on 03/07/2013 3:53:12 AM PST by Josephat
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To: Nachum

Call your Democratic senator and say “ OH good. Because there WILL be a Republican president in the future, and then what?” Will it be OK then? Then say you can’t wait till the tides are turned on them.


22 posted on 03/07/2013 3:59:18 AM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: freekitty

“Obama and his administration are mere mortals.”

I’m not so sure about that.


23 posted on 03/07/2013 4:05:57 AM PST by Josephat
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To: Nachum
Sorry, I’m not impressed with Cruz’s questioning of Holder or of Rand Pauls filibustering. The question isn’t can the US government kill a citizen just minding their own business because it’s patently obvious you can’t. Holder said as much and stayed well within the Constitution.

The question is why should any government drone be flying over America? Crime is falling. Has anyone heard of the 4th Amendment?

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[

Secure in my person against unresonable searches is sufficient to ground the governments drone fleet and get rid of its street corner cameras. We don’t need a state security apparatus constantly filming us. The US isn’t a war zone. The onus is on government and drone use should be restricted and limited.

Look at warrant abuse in the failed War on Drugs. What Paul and Cruz are doing is saying, “drones in our skies is OK, just don’t kill a non-imminent threat.” That’s already the law and standard in any police action.

Just say “no” to drones in US skyies.

24 posted on 03/07/2013 4:15:38 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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Hypocritical scumbags.


25 posted on 03/07/2013 4:16:52 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: bunkerhill7

Now that is good!


26 posted on 03/07/2013 4:20:49 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: Nachum

“Sen. Rand Paul just offered to end his filibuster and allow a vote on CIA nominee John Brennan if he could get a vote tomorrow on a non-binding resolution regarding drone killing of US citizens on US soil.”

I wasn’t into this drone’s killing Americans stuff as I lumped it in with people spending their time attempting to prove Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen...but the Democrat reaction is FRIGHTENING. I’m also fine with drones targeting and killing Americans that decide to play jihad in the Middle East, by going to their training camps. But I draw the line on American soil, for sure.

Paul’s offer to end the filibuster for a worthless “sense of the Senate” resolution has TOTALLY OUTED the Democrats. These were the same people that tried to jail two Republican Presidents for wanting to simply aid the fight against Communist governments in the Western Hemisphere (not even fight, just send a few dollars). The Boland Amendment, which was used to string up President’s Bush and Reagan (i.e., Iran Contra), wasn’t a “Sense of the Senate”, it was federal law, imposed by Democrats, to protect a Communist Dictator...to the point of throwing American presidents in jail if they didn’t abide.

In this case, the president and the Justice Department would still be welcome to shoot drones at Americans in Texas, since the resolution was non-binding, but EVEN THAT was too much for the Democrats to stomach.

We NAILED them here. I’m no fan of Paul, but THANK YOU!!!


27 posted on 03/07/2013 4:28:16 AM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Nachum

I just about hurled when I flipped the TV back to Cspan2 late last night and, lo and behold, there’s Turbin Durbin.


28 posted on 03/07/2013 4:31:53 AM PST by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: Nachum

So obviously the dem party is in favor of the country killing its citizens when the president is a dem. But when the president is a normal person, they condemn it.


29 posted on 03/07/2013 5:05:36 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: I want the USA back

Don’t forget your history.

Bubba killed Americans without drones. He set fires and burned them alive at Waco. Drones are merely an iteration in the killing without cause


30 posted on 03/07/2013 5:12:02 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: chris37

“Apparently the demonrats want to be able to assasinate any american they want, anytime they want, for any reason they want.”

And what is to say that the Dems won’t use, oh I don’t know, say 2700 light infantry vehicles and a billion or so rounds of ammunition to kill a couple of hundred thousand tea party protesters who descend on Washington?

All Barack has to say is they are an imminent threat to the security of the US.


31 posted on 03/07/2013 5:15:16 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: Nachum

I’m painting a giant middle finger on my roof.


32 posted on 03/07/2013 5:17:07 AM PST by jughandle
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To: Kevmo
I think this post on Twitter sums up the 'rat reluctance here:

laura w ‏@laurww

@AceofSpadesHQ + this administration hates parsing what is constitutional, and what is not, B/C that discussion empowers the Constitution.


33 posted on 03/07/2013 5:18:41 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Josephat
I’m curious as to why anyone believes that a resolution or a law or the Constitution will stop these people from doing what they want. They have demonstrated repeatedly that they believe themselves above the law.

You take what you can get and keep moving the ball back to the opponent's own goal. What we've had since Reagan has been nothing but fumbles, intentional groundings, interceptions, safeties, and Wrongway McCain just taking the ball and running it for for the opposing team.

Cruz and Paul have come along and figured out that to stop socialism you have to actually stand up and fight it.

Ted/Rand 2016

34 posted on 03/07/2013 5:27:07 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Josephat

LOL


35 posted on 03/07/2013 7:23:40 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tumblindice
Our founders knew of people like these and set protections in the Constitution.
And the Left claims the Constitution is out dated.

Just how will the left react when the leadership is not theirs to wield. The Dems are foaming
at the mouth with power and do not conceive they will lose it.

36 posted on 03/07/2013 7:29:16 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Nachum

I stand with Rand.


37 posted on 03/07/2013 7:58:52 AM PST by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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To: Josephat

I don’t believe it will.

They will simply seize that power.

However it is the only civil route we have at this time to ensure that our paranoid and insane government doesn’t begin to assasinate people it defines as a threat.

We have to start somewhere.

And as far as Lesley graham saying that it’s ridiculous to think that they would want to do this...no, Leslie, it is ridiculous not to think it.


38 posted on 03/07/2013 9:11:43 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Nothing.

They are trying to render us defenseless for a reason, and it’s not for our safety.


39 posted on 03/07/2013 9:12:40 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: The Cajun
I think it's more like *contracting a hit on any one of us* at his whim.

Exactly right

I'm actually OK if Obama wants to come out and state that he wants to kill me. IF he's willing to do it himself, face to face. C'mon Barry, make my day

40 posted on 03/07/2013 9:16:03 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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