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Hugo Chavez died 'in the bosom of the Church': Catholic News Agency (CNA)
Catholic news agency ^ | Mar 6, 2013 | Catholic news agency

Posted on 03/08/2013 9:01:51 PM PST by daniel1212

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Josef Stalin was Georgian Orthodox.

Adolf Hitler was not an altar boy.

61 posted on 03/09/2013 4:25:35 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Mister Da

Nice tagline


62 posted on 03/09/2013 4:35:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wideawake
 
 
 
 

63 posted on 03/09/2013 4:36:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Who am I to judge if the fat commie bastard Hugo, whether or not he will enter into the heavenly gates

Only God knows...

If it was my call...he would be Satan boy toy...

64 posted on 03/09/2013 4:36:41 AM PST by Popman
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To: daniel1212

Cuba is the bosom of the church?!!!


65 posted on 03/09/2013 4:42:23 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: daniel1212

Now why do I get the feeling that the ones calling loudest for Chavez to be eternally damned, would be the first to squawk at the idea of Purgatory....


66 posted on 03/09/2013 4:45:09 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Elsie

he’s a thief and a killer who oppressed millions


67 posted on 03/09/2013 4:48:57 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Thank you!


68 posted on 03/09/2013 4:50:58 AM PST by STJPII
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To: daniel1212

Sure why not. Surely he was a good Catholic.

IBTE - In before the excuses.....


69 posted on 03/09/2013 5:17:49 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: wideawake

c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_Adolf_Hitler_an_altar_boy

His father’s efforts at Hafeld ended in failure and the family moved to Lambach in 1897. There, Hitler attended a Catholic school located in an 11th-century Benedictine cloister whose walls were engraved in a number of places with crests containing the symbol of the swastika. Impressed by the beauty of the church and accepted by the monks as an altar boy and member of the choir, Hitler dreamt fleetingly of becoming a Benedictine monk.

http://hitlertriumphant.wordpress.com/about/

Adolf Hitler was born on April 20, 1889, at Braunau am Inn, Austria, a small town in Upper Austria, on the border with Germany. He was the fourth of six children of Alois Hitler (1837–1903), a customs official, and Klara Pölzl, Alois’s niece and third wife. Of these six children, only Adolf and his younger sister Paula reached adulthood. Alois Hitler also had a son (Alois Junior) and a daughter (Angela) by his second wife. In Mein Kampf Hitler describes his father as an “irascible tyrant,” although there is little indication that Alois Hitler treated his son more strictly than was usual for that time and place. Adolf’s strict Catholic upbringing was typical for the region. He served as an altar boy and sang in the choir but was not a practicing Catholic as an adult, though in public discourses he continued to frequently claim he was a Christian.[1]

http://www.dittatori.it/hitler-eng.htm


70 posted on 03/09/2013 5:25:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: wideawake
Looks like Cardinal Urosa has been a true pastor. Despite being publcly insulted and humiliated by Chavez, he turned the other cheek and provided ministry to him in his last days.

Anyone who criticizes the Church on this one has never read the Bible and is not a Christian.

Baloney.

The Catholic church is acting hypocritically on this and it appears that everyone but the Catholics see it and recognize it.

And admit to it.....

71 posted on 03/09/2013 5:28:19 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Eepsy; daniel1212
Now why do I get the feeling that the ones calling loudest for Chavez to be eternally damned, would be the first to squawk at the idea of Purgatory....

Who's calling for him to be damned?

Post numbers please......

72 posted on 03/09/2013 5:29:48 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks daniel1212.
In 2002, Chavez accused the Venezuelan bishops of being a “tumor” for his revolutionary goals and demanded that the Vatican not intervene in the internal affairs of the country... The secretary general of the Bishops’ Conference of Venezuela, Bishop Jesus Gonzalez de Zarate, called for national unity.

73 posted on 03/09/2013 5:35:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: BlackElk

See post 15.


74 posted on 03/09/2013 5:51:32 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: metmom

14,31,32,37,38,60,69.

Possibly 10 and 39, but I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt....


75 posted on 03/09/2013 6:02:54 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy; metmom; presently no screen name
Now why do I get the feeling that the ones calling loudest for Chavez to be eternally damned, would be the first to squawk at the idea of Purgatory..

I recognize a couple, who, like many RCs, judge that he was damned, but which is where the evidence points to, and that, like a priest says of Teddy K., he lived in an objective state of mortal sin, and thus was not qualified for a RC funeral, and would not even be a candidate for purgatory - if it existed.

76 posted on 03/09/2013 6:10:08 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: piytar
If Chavez truly had faith in Christ in his heart when he died, then IMHO he was saved. But I SERIOUSLY doubt it.

Not if he thought the Catholic religion would save him.
77 posted on 03/09/2013 6:27:39 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Eepsy; svcw; Rabin; right way right; lurk; Electric Graffiti; GeronL; Mister Da; marron

Baloney, again. Those are not calls for him to be damned.

They’re merely observations on his likely destination based on his life.

There’s a huge difference between the two. If you cannot distinguish that, your judgement is poor.

Nor was my post 69 a call for him to be damned. My post had nothing to do with his destination, so it’s disingenuous to try to even include it.


78 posted on 03/09/2013 6:34:43 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Eepsy

bovine excrement
People talked about God’s Mercy.
People said based on his life, he is probably in hell.
Not ONE person said he was damned, as a matter or course, they all said it is probably, based on his own life.


79 posted on 03/09/2013 6:49:43 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: daniel1212
I can understand why a church or an individual Christian would want to give the opportunity to someone to repent and embrace Jesus and his message while they lived. I do not understand why a church would support those who lived unrepentant lives, who twisted their teachings, who actively worked against their teachings, some kind of huge honor in death.

Chavez, Kennedy, and lots of others. The church reaction to them on their death just seems wrong. I can understand why the Marxists such as Jesse, and Sean Penn et al would grieve, but why a church would want to put some kind of official stamp on an unrepentant brigand is beyond me. The RC does a lot of fine things, it seems this is not one of them.

RC believers, please explain this if you would. Before death, I can understand the attempts, after.........it just seems flat out wrong.

80 posted on 03/09/2013 6:51:47 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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