Posted on 03/17/2013 3:15:39 PM PDT by Jyotishi
Nobody knows that’s “all” that happened. There has been testimony of a REALLY bad picture that was never recovered. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that she was raped more than once.
They didn’t do toxicology on her hair. I forget why. They didn’t do a rape kit because it had been 36 hours or so since she had been dumped back at home.
Correct. They didn't rape her because they were feeling amorous, or because she looked sexy as she repeatedly vomited all over everything, and everyone. They raped her so they could brag about it later to their like-minded jock buddies.
You belong on DU, not here.
Disgusting.
Exactly right. But the lesson will be lost on the libs, who are already calling for a stricter ban on teens drinking alcohol. No sense at all of what this thing was really about.
What if you just tell them that they ARE an animal through maleducation?
You’d get the same animal behavior as “turning off a person’s conscience”.
If anything of what I’ve read is correct, this sounds like it was definitely premeditated and included both adult (including coaches and parents) aid and the procurement of date-rape drug. It also sounded like another girl says she was raped by this group and anonymous claims to have witnesses who indicate that there was a room especially intended for these rapes.
Again, I don’t know what is true out of what is being claimed. But if the girl can’t remember anything from the time she got to the party, that doesn’t sound like she got drunk there; that sounds like she was drugged as soon as she got there. The fact that she was taken to the party by the same guy who raped her - who was best friends with a guy who 2 weeks earlier had said that he would destroy her - also doesn’t sit well.
Teen drinking is already illegal. How do you have a stricter ban? Tougher consequences? Teen drinking is stupid and dangerous, but in this instance it sounds like teen sex (and then breaking up) was what actually incited this premeditated crime. Maybe teen sex should be banned and strict consequences imposed.
Ah, but that would put Planned Parenthood out of business along with all the power-mongering that the pro-aborts get from defending promiscuity and ensuring that there are (supposedly) no long-term consequences for promiscuity. It would require that morality be taught in the schools rather than schools being accomplices to the mindset and the practicality of “getting away with” promiscuity - and that would never do, because the communists know that America will fall if we stop being a moral people, and that is their goal.
The trouble with communism and liberalism is that real life preaches against them. Whatever “crisis” comes up that they use to try to rally for their cause, it ends up with the wilfully ignorant and/or stupid going along with it, but people sitting on the border between stupid and educable peeling off because they see real life. A conservative is a liberal who was mugged.
I hope this situation leads to soul-searching. Unfortunately, once the media and politicians grab hold of the issue, any genuine soul-searching will be crowded out by excuses or distractions.
Who was the guy who said a woman should defend herself from rape by vomiting? Here we see how much good that does.
Exactly.
“Kids just cannot control their urge to drink, or drug their date, or rape. We need to make sure they can do these things safely. We need to make it safe for kids to be animals because they will never be anything more than animals. They shouldn’t be ‘punished’ with a baby, a disease, or jail time. Just do what it takes to sweep the whole thing under the rug and it will be no big deal.”
The whole philosophy of the left is exposed in this case. The kids are just doing what their educators/politicians/parents/supposed-President told them was inevitable and should be consequence-free.
Sounds like this whole town bought into what the leftist politicians and Planned Parenthood have been saying all along. The adults assume that the kids are animals and make sure that there are no consequences for acting like animals - even provide the stuff needed to carry out the animal behavior easily and without consequence. This town did it for the sake of having a winning football team. Pelosi, Obama, Planned Parenthood et al do it for the sake of having political power.
This case exposes the lie that controls our educational philosophies and the politics of power. This is what life looks like when you have the “meat” of the anything-goes liberal utopia, without the “salt” of genuine Christianity. I hope people think long and hard about whether this is really where they want this country to go, because we’re already at least halfway there.
Kinda vindictive of me,
but it’s gonna be hell on earth for these folks
when the Christian influence is utterly removed
from the earth for a time.
Literally hell on earth. Hell is the absence of God. If the hands, feet, and voices who are sharing God’s preserving Word are removed, what is left will be Hell. In Revelation where it talks about those not accepting the mark of the beast being exterminated, it describes agonies for those who remain, to the point that they wish they were dead.
What those who are flirting with the fringes of Christianity need to know is that if they forsake Christ in order to fit in with the anti-Christian world, that world will eventually be so unbearable that they will wish they were dead.
Rape happens frequently where there is sharia. Women are lower than dogs, and if they are perceived as slighting a guy with an ego, rape is a punishment. The legal response is to stone the woman for “promiscuity” (for having been raped). The people who are pushing for an anti-Christian world here are buddies with the Islamists. In a very REAL sense America is on course to end up like Pakistan or other anti-Christian places where a raped woman is stoned to death for being raped. This town seems to be at about the halfway point between the vestiges of the old Christian society and the totally anti-Christ society to which we are headed. People are being given a chance to see the difference between heaven and hell. I hope and pray that a lot of people will side with Heaven.
Here's what Localleaks says happened that night. It's MUCH worse than we've heard from the media thus far.
Basically the victim was drugged and raped because she was Cody Saltsman's ex-girlfriend, and he wanted revenge on her. He got lots of help from the Rape Crew.
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After being convinced, with some amount of coaxing - to attend the parties that night with the "Rape Crew" by Mark Cole's girlfriend Santoro, Jane Doe was picked up at a volleyball team party she was attending in the early evening of August 11th and transported in a vehicle with Richmond, Mays and Cole in it. Jane Doe was administered a "date rape" drug snuck into her drink almost immediately, possibly while still in the vehicle enroute to the nights "festivities". In any case, she has no memories after being picked up. The first party of the night was at the home of Assistant Coach Rick Cameletti, where Michael Nodianos, Charlie Keenan, Cody Saltsman, and Anthony Craig were already engaged in heavy drinking and drug use. At this location Jane Doe was raped multiple times by Richmond and Mays and at least two other assailants from the "Rape Crew". At that point the "party" went on the move. They first stopped at another Assistant Coach's home, Coach Belerdine. Both Belerdine and his sister were present at this time. Jane Doe was again sexually assaulted at this party. They hit the road again with an unconscious Jane Doe in tow. While en route to Mark Cole's house, Jane was again raped and sodomized in the back seat of a vehicle - and this was video recorded by Mark Cole who was in the front seat. Her attackers in the car were again Mays and Richmond. Once they arrived at Mark Cole's house Jane Doe was carried to the basement where she was again raped multiple times by multiple attackers, one of which was Michael Nodianos. Also at the Cole residence, Jane Doe was orally raped by Trent Mays. Finally, having sated themselves and exhausted any further entertainment that Jane Doe could provide for these animals, she was unceremoniously dumped (still unconscious) onto the front lawn of the Cole residence - where at least one member of the "Rape Crew" proceeded to urinate on her. At some point in the early morning hours of August 12th, a semi-conscious Jane Doe was transported to her home in West Virginia.
http://www.localleaks.me/localleaks/steubenvillefiles/index.html
Here's what Localleaks says happened that night. It's MUCH worse than we've heard from the media thus far.
Basically the victim was drugged and raped because she was Cody Saltsman's ex-girlfriend, and he wanted revenge on her. He got lots of help from the Rape Crew.
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After being convinced, with some amount of coaxing - to attend the parties that night with the "Rape Crew" by Mark Cole's girlfriend Santoro, Jane Doe was picked up at a volleyball team party she was attending in the early evening of August 11th and transported in a vehicle with Richmond, Mays and Cole in it. Jane Doe was administered a "date rape" drug snuck into her drink almost immediately, possibly while still in the vehicle enroute to the nights "festivities". In any case, she has no memories after being picked up. The first party of the night was at the home of Assistant Coach Rick Cameletti, where Michael Nodianos, Charlie Keenan, Cody Saltsman, and Anthony Craig were already engaged in heavy drinking and drug use. At this location Jane Doe was raped multiple times by Richmond and Mays and at least two other assailants from the "Rape Crew". At that point the "party" went on the move. They first stopped at another Assistant Coach's home, Coach Belerdine. Both Belerdine and his sister were present at this time. Jane Doe was again sexually assaulted at this party. They hit the road again with an unconscious Jane Doe in tow. While en route to Mark Cole's house, Jane was again raped and sodomized in the back seat of a vehicle - and this was video recorded by Mark Cole who was in the front seat. Her attackers in the car were again Mays and Richmond. Once they arrived at Mark Cole's house Jane Doe was carried to the basement where she was again raped multiple times by multiple attackers, one of which was Michael Nodianos. Also at the Cole residence, Jane Doe was orally raped by Trent Mays. Finally, having sated themselves and exhausted any further entertainment that Jane Doe could provide for these animals, she was unceremoniously dumped (still unconscious) onto the front lawn of the Cole residence - where at least one member of the "Rape Crew" proceeded to urinate on her. At some point in the early morning hours of August 12th, a semi-conscious Jane Doe was transported to her home in West Virginia.
http://www.localleaks.me/localleaks/steubenvillefiles/index.html
And your 16 year-old son would be.........what?
Nope.
“And your 16 year-old son would be.........what? “
Molested.
Thank you for not politely pinging me to a post in which I am mentioned.
There is no such word as "stupider".
What was described was not rape when I was young.
And would he be happy or upset about it?
Basically the victim was drugged
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I’m not saying your info is incorrect because I don’t know. But there is other indications also. Which is correct I have no idea unless maybe we could see the court records.
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A hospital test on the victim for drugging came back negative, testimony revealed.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/17/justice/ohio-steubenville-case/index.html
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