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Beware the ‘Science’ of Same-Sex Marriage
National Review Online ^ | March 25, 2013 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 03/25/2013 7:05:17 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/25/2013 7:05:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Excellent article.


2 posted on 03/25/2013 7:12:09 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: neverdem

They don’t mention Natural Law Theory which is the basis of our Legal system. Natural Rights come from Natural Law. Natural Rights/civil rights come from Natural Law Theory.

To recognize anal sex as a “Good”, as something “Natural”, is teaching lies and throwing out Natural Laws and God’s Laws and Reason.

No law can exist which is not “Reasoned” and be Constitutional in the US. That is why we have “Rule of Law” which MEANS there is a Higher Law (God’s) than arbitrary laws. Reason only exists in relation to Natural Law. Without the concepts of Natural Moral Law there is no Right and Wrong. It is unjust law and unconstitutional if there is no reason-—like with recognition of sodomizing others as a “Right” from God, which is absurd.

Also-—if biological parents aren’t required by law to raise their own biological children-—then we have a system which reduces children to commodities which is intrinsically evil by both Natural Law and God’s Law.

The family (genetics) is the foundation of a civil society-—destroy the family by making children into objects to be bred and sold is evil and Orwellian.

Marxism-—this “radical egalitarianism” which makes women and men interchangeable, is a provable, scientific Lie-—like all Marxist ideology. It is antithetical to a Constitution built on the “laws of nature and nature’s God”.


3 posted on 03/25/2013 7:24:13 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: neverdem

1) Marriage should be a decision for the States. I do agree that these decisions need to be determined by the State Legislature.

2) The Supreme Court should not have any decision in the decisions of the States.

3) Therefore, all decision of these States are to be held supreme and not challenged by the Federal Government.

Is there NOT any decision made by the States that can be overturned by the Supreme Court these days? These days of changing attitudes seems to say YES, they can do whatever they want and adjust the Constitution as necessary.

Let us pray...or heaven help us - whatever helps these days.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 7:26:43 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: savagesusie

Saving if you don’t mind. Excellent argument.


5 posted on 03/25/2013 7:29:04 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Yes, good article...but how sad to have to state the obvious.
With all this evolving going on, and the polls showing movement toward public acceptance of gay marriage, I am convinced you can get folks to buy into just about anything.
Intellectual apathy I think.


6 posted on 03/25/2013 7:29:13 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Deagle

But how would they sort out taxes and other issues if the homosexual marriage is recognized in one state and not another? I pray the court rules against homosexual marriage as a constitutional right, but I’m not optimistic.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 7:30:57 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

They voted for the worst president in US history twice.

Nothing surprises me anymore.


8 posted on 03/25/2013 7:33:56 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Darn, what is the problem with State specific taxes, etc. They already do that! So what if they are not married in one state of another...if they wish to move to that state, that is their problem - kind of like weapons laws.


9 posted on 03/25/2013 7:37:40 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

I wish they would all move to one state. That would be the perfect solution. Let them have California since they already do.


10 posted on 03/25/2013 7:39:53 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

One. Get the Federal Government out of marriage!

Two. Get the Government out of marriage!

Three. Well, there would be nothing left if the first two happened.


11 posted on 03/25/2013 7:40:14 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

Well, isn’t that the ideal? Why not let the folks decide?


12 posted on 03/25/2013 7:42:45 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

We need to get the federal government out of a lot of things - like our bank accounts - but it isn’t going to happen.

I wonder if Las Vegas is taking odds on what the court will do?


13 posted on 03/25/2013 7:43:22 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: neverdem
In recent years marriage has been weakened by a revisionist view that is more about adults’ desires than children’s needs.

Redefining marriage is a direct and demonstrated threat to religious freedom that marginalizes those who affirm marriage as the union of a man and a woman. We have already seen this in neighboring Canada and right here in places such as Massachusetts and Washington, D.C.

The points I would like to emphasize.

14 posted on 03/25/2013 7:43:32 PM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There is NO reason to give married couples benefits nor is there any reason to give same gender benefits. That is just another Federal/Local tax benefit. Get rid of it!


15 posted on 03/25/2013 7:46:18 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: Deagle

Sounds good to me but we know it won’t happen.


16 posted on 03/25/2013 7:47:13 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


17 posted on 03/25/2013 7:47:13 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: savagesusie

The Orwellian aspect is they can change the definition of anything as the will. A bike is a boat. I rock is a roll. If I’m holding up 4 fingers and I tell you it’s five you better see five.

And if I’m holding holding up four and you don’t see five, Big Brother Help you.


18 posted on 03/25/2013 8:02:19 PM PDT by DManA
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To: neverdem

Good post.

The problem with Same Sex Marriage is it is it furthers the deconstruction of the family pushed by radical leftists/feminists. I know most young “conservatives” are often too lazy to even research what the goals of the radical left and radical homosexuals have been for the past several decades but their number one target has been the “patriarchy” as they call it. Also the norming of homosexuality makes it easy to extend the damage done with the advent of no fault sex (ie birth control) coupled with the rise of massive government services. They no very well that the ultimate intention is to make sexual orientation increasingly ambiguous and gender increasingly androgynous which is why we’ve seen the rise of the gender neutral classroom and the re-defining of maleness in the traditional sense as a disease (ADHD). Once gay marriage is achieved it will increasingly become a requirement that homosexuality as well as other forms of sexual orientations not just be taught but encouraged. Kids will be told that they should explore and experiment to find out what their “true” orientation is and that their fulfillment of that “true” orientation is essential to their mental health. If you don’t believe me research some of the crap that is being implemented in Blue states and even within some red states. Anyone who thinks that gay marriage is just about equal rights is in denial just as one who believes that homosexuality is primarily inborn.
Thomas Sowell put it best “Gay Marriage is the product of Sloppy Thinking”.

Here is the article if you desire to read it.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell032400.asp

The unfortunate thing is that this “sloppy thinking” has infected conservatism or rather mostly Progressive Republicanism masquerading as conservatism. The reason it has made it so far is through intimidation and silence of those who disagree but have been made to feel they have no right to express it.


19 posted on 03/25/2013 8:18:22 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes, unfortunately that is true of almost everything that is wrong with the Government! We can bitch and complain but it does no good - the power of the Federal Government will and does overcome all of our complaints (especially when most of the population needs them to exist).

That alone should be enough to rouse a complaint but alas, it will be too late, such is history. Yes, we are doomed, we just don’t realize it yet.


20 posted on 03/25/2013 8:28:27 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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