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Nearly 700,000 Guestworker Visas Issued In 2012
Center For Immigration Studies ^ | 02 April 2013 | Jessica Vaughan

Posted on 04/08/2013 10:40:47 AM PDT by zeestephen

About two-thirds skilled, one-third unskilled. Last week, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) announced that the AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce had agreed on a proposal to increase the number of unskilled guestworker visas above and beyond the number already being issued.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; guestworkersvisa; immigration
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The 700,000 figure is deceptive.

Many work visas are good for several years, and some work visas are actually valid indefinitely.

Also, many work visas issued in prior years can be renewed, often for periods up to six years.

The Center for Immigration Studies has estimated that the total number of people working in the USA with a valid visa is about 1 million.

1 posted on 04/08/2013 10:40:47 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

America’s job market is booming! If you’re a foreigner.


2 posted on 04/08/2013 10:43:18 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: zeestephen
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) announced that the AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce had agreed on a proposal to increase the number of unskilled guestworker visas above and beyond the number already being issued.

They announce this as if it's the best thing to happen in years.

HOW I LOATHE THE LEFT

3 posted on 04/08/2013 10:43:46 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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H1B’s are decimating the IT industry.

H-1B Professional Skilled 136,000


4 posted on 04/08/2013 10:43:55 AM PDT by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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WTH is this? Anyone?
TN Nafta Professionals Skilled 75,000*


5 posted on 04/08/2013 10:46:21 AM PDT by sheana
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Yes, but if an H-1B saves just one American’s job, it will be worth it!

(s) nully, who was displaced by THREE H-1B’s on his last job...


6 posted on 04/08/2013 10:46:25 AM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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WTH is this? Anyone?

Treason.

7 posted on 04/08/2013 10:47:11 AM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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To: zeestephen

There might soon be a lot more than 11 million new “guest workers” if the traitors in congress have their way. These “guests” are eating us out of house and home.


8 posted on 04/08/2013 10:48:26 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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About two-thirds skilled

...about 80% of those are petroleum engineers from the middle east....gas station attendants, who eventually wind up over extending their "work" visas

9 posted on 04/08/2013 10:53:27 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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WTH is this? Anyone? TN Nafta Professionals Skilled 75,000*

NAFTA contained provisions which allowed a certain number of workers in various categories to come to the US each year. Not sure of the details, but one objection to NAFTA was that it changed immigration law without those provisions being debated, or even known about by most.

10 posted on 04/08/2013 11:05:51 AM PDT by Will88
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“H1B’s are decimating the IT industry.”

“H-1B Professional Skilled 136,000”

That actually understates the problem.

Many H-1B’s are renewable up to six years.

H-1B’s are also quite often a direct path to a Green Card.

That means the reported visa total goes down, but the worker is still in the USA.

Last year CIS did an analysis of native born Americans who had a science or technology degree.

From memory, 2 million were either unemployed or working in a field not related to their degree.

11 posted on 04/08/2013 11:06:33 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Will88

that it changed law without those provisions being debated, or even known about by most.

Take out the immigration part and it is business as usual.
Thanks


12 posted on 04/08/2013 11:18:49 AM PDT by sheana
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To: zeestephen
Last year CIS did an analysis of native born Americans who had a science or technology degree. From memory, 2 million were either unemployed or working in a field not related to their degree.

That's a very surprising figure given the current salary levels for those graduating with technical degrees. The last time I looked the top 9 paying jobs were going to various engineering categories with Petroleum Engineering at the top at $80K+. Hard to believe there is a surplus of Petroleum Engineers if they are paying that much for someone still wet behind the ears and with just 4 years of college.

Take a look at Engineering Salaries 2012 for a little counter programming. You'll see some pretty big salary numbers tossed around.

Who is CIS? I'll try to find your reference. And note that you have to be careful with the term "science degree". Study psychology and you get a "science degree". We need to look at the the CIS definition.

13 posted on 04/08/2013 11:21:14 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Those native-born Americans are only responding to incentives, with a sub-optimal result, much like those that won’t pursue science/technology degrees due to the problem. Why would someone bother with something that isn’t going to bring in a favorable(or just positive) return on investment?

The problem with guest workers is that citizenship is discouraged - since the H1-b program is first a vehicle for offshore knowledge transfer as well as a government program that distorts the labor market.

On top of that, the US Government itself knew there was a problem with enforcement before the public at large did. The incentives that keep the program going also make enforcement ineffective.

There may be a path that exists, but citizenship would work against the dual incentives to keep the guest worker captive and to export knowledge to another country. It would be far better to just scrap every guest worker program and the underpinning immigration law set in 1965.

In all cases, it is far better to encourage freedom - not captivity. When that is done, it attracts those that want to work and live here - having choices as a productive citizen. Who knows, they might actually form a business, employ people, and promote the idea that the American Dream is attainable.


14 posted on 04/08/2013 11:31:43 AM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: Puppage

If we didn’t have so many illegals people in these unskilled jobs could maybe get paid a little more. I know any talk of higher wages is generally met with disdain here but a tighter labor market would be a beautiful thing.


15 posted on 04/08/2013 11:37:17 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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Here’s a twofer: give those ‘guest worker’ passes to the citizens of Detroit. I mean they’re looking for work, right?


16 posted on 04/08/2013 11:45:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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Here’s a twofer: give those ‘guest worker’ passes to the citizens of Detroit. I mean they’re looking for work, right?


17 posted on 04/08/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: TSgt
H1B’s are decimating the IT industry.

I personally believe that bringing in all of these foreign IT people is why we have so many vulnerabilities in code. If I am a foreign worker and I leave a back door access, why then I can blackmail when I get back home. It is insidious, but I believe it happens all the time.

18 posted on 04/08/2013 12:12:37 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: setha

You forgot the /sarc tag.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/5490-decrees-by-obamas-czars-threaten-americas-energy-and-our-freedom

And that was written more than two years ago.


19 posted on 04/08/2013 12:14:14 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: null and void

” Treason. “

Including the Chamber of Commerce.

It gets cheap labor, and America gets the tab.


20 posted on 04/08/2013 12:17:24 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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