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Pat Toomey aide: Gun deal close at hand, appearance with Sen. Joe Manchin set for Wednesday
NBC Politics ^ | 04/09/2013 | Kasie Hunt, Luke Russert and Kelly O'Donnell

Posted on 04/09/2013 5:21:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Pat Toomey is close to a deal with Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia on background checks for gun show and Internet gun sales, his office said Tuesday night. The two are planning a joint press conference for Wednesday morning.

A Toomey spokesperson on Tuesday told NBC News that the two senators have agreed on all but the final details of a compromise.

Manchin told reporters Tuesday that the compromise would close the gun show loophole by mandating background checks for those transactions and also require background checks for all Internet gun sales.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Pennsylvania; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 113th; awb; banglist; guncontrol; guns; joemanchin; manchin; pattoomey; pennsylvania; secondamendment; toomey; westvirginia
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1 posted on 04/09/2013 5:21:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Joe Brower

We get sold out again. What a surprise.


2 posted on 04/09/2013 5:23:17 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Toomey is a Traitor.


3 posted on 04/09/2013 5:23:18 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: SeekAndFind

With friends like the weak-kneed Republicans, who needs enemies?


4 posted on 04/09/2013 5:23:25 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought conservatives supported Tommey to get rid of Arlen Specter.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 5:24:19 PM PDT by yongin
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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans:

You are in opposition.

Act like it. We have plenty of laws. In fact we have far too many laws.

Stop it! Just stop it. Now.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 5:24:58 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SeekAndFind

Pat Toomey’s initials = POS.


7 posted on 04/09/2013 5:25:14 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

By all means, surrender my rights. No skin off your back. You have the capital police and special dispensation from Big Sis.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 5:25:16 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind

Dont think I believe em. Obama is in a panic.


9 posted on 04/09/2013 5:25:43 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have pretty much given up.All politicians now conspire to steal our constitutional rights.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 5:28:01 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: SeekAndFind

How do you get a gun on the internet? I have ordered online but I had to pick it up from an FFL who called in abackground check. Is there a double secret probation internet purchase method off the record deal, thingamabob?


11 posted on 04/09/2013 5:28:30 PM PDT by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fix is in


12 posted on 04/09/2013 5:28:53 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: SeekAndFind

Repubs are stupid. I knew this was going to be a never ending drip,drip,drip. They let the Clinton gun control crap pass. Now just a little more. After the next shooting they will push for more. If they would STAND up and make the Constitutional case to WE THE PEOPLE and refuse to play this game, We might be free someday. I am disappointed. The Courts will not save us. The Liberals NEVER give in. I mean good grief if we are going to have gay marriage. And we will. Can the Conservatives NOT al least fight for the 2nd amendment. When they pass this stuff it just puts fuel to the fire of the 2nd’s eventual downfall.


13 posted on 04/09/2013 5:29:14 PM PDT by therut
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh how cute..Toomey butt licking the other side..how absolutely adorable


14 posted on 04/09/2013 5:29:31 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

No surprise here. He’s been a RINO from day 1.


15 posted on 04/09/2013 5:29:40 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sphincter II.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 5:30:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: SeekAndFind

F*** the GOP.


17 posted on 04/09/2013 5:30:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s see the language. If I buy a gun on the internet today, I have them ship it to my nearby friendly FFL. When it arrives, I go down to the store, fill out a 4170, give him $25 and take my gun home. How does this change with this bill?

Gun show, different story as today you can still do a private transaction. So, what’s the new proposal? What if I’m in a gun show in Missouri, live in Kansas. Do I have to have it shipped to Kansas, or can I take it home? The details matter.


18 posted on 04/09/2013 5:31:32 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SeekAndFind

47% of the voters did not vote for Obama. What part of that don’t you guys understand?!! FU GOP!!


19 posted on 04/09/2013 5:31:58 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

I already have to get a background check for internet gun sales.


20 posted on 04/09/2013 5:32:45 PM PDT by ez (Laws are for little people. Criminals, politicians, police, and David Gregory are exempt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

21 posted on 04/09/2013 5:33:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Life. Liberty. Property. Family. Sovereignty. Security. Borders. The Constitutional Oath.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me tell you something. If these bastards sell out on gun control as they sold out on the budget, “gay” marriage, and on Obamacare, ITS OVER for them.

I will NEVER vote for another stinking one of them EVEN IF IT MEANS A DEMOCRAT gets in. There is NO DIFFERENCE between them.

Its slow death of the Republic versus fast death of the Republic.

We need a third conservative political party to replace these bastards. There is no way to take this rotting cadaver over. There are too many big moneyed RINOs (read LIBERALS) sitting at the top.

But we CAN do is topple the entire rotting edifice by competing with them and then by filling the void they vacated, advance our agenda.

And if they crap out on this issue, I WILL DEVOTE EVERY WAKING HOUR OF THE REST OF MY LIFE TO DO JUST THAT.

Excuse the language but I have HAD IT with their charade!!


22 posted on 04/09/2013 5:34:25 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: SeekAndFind

I voted for Toomey. Never again.
Compromising with Democrats means the people lose........


23 posted on 04/09/2013 5:35:19 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: shankbear

That is what I was thinking. Isn’t it already the law that the gun MUST be transferred to an FFL dealer who then finishes the transaction only AFTER he does a credit check. There is paperwork and ID’s involved in every step of the way.


24 posted on 04/09/2013 5:36:15 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: shankbear

Handgun? That’s been the SOP here in PA, for years. Even long guns have to be shipped to an FFL and an ATF Form 4473 filled-out. I don’t remember background checks for long guns, though.


25 posted on 04/09/2013 5:37:21 PM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Question: Did any of the Newtown, Aurora, or Tucson psychos purchase their weapons at a gun show or over the internet? Didn’t think so.


26 posted on 04/09/2013 5:38:19 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: SeekAndFind
The socialist just moved the gun control (ball) another inch closer to the goal post with the help, support, and sell out of another RINO in a “compromise” towards a “universal” background checks on all firearms!

Look how the socialist start with an “assault weapons ban” then, get RINO’s to agree to a “Universal background check” on firearms “just for internet and gun show purchases.” Once this legislation gets adopted, all the socialist will need to do then, is write laws that make it “universal” for all firearms in the United States! The socialist never compromise, never stop, never give up fighting to confiscate all American firearms!

God help us all!

27 posted on 04/09/2013 5:38:50 PM PDT by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They know Republican votes let Reid allow Dem Senators up for election in 2014 to vote against it.

They’re traitors to the country AND their Party.


28 posted on 04/09/2013 5:39:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like they punted and passed a bunch of stuff that is already law just to make it look like they “did something.” Wonder what DU is saying about this deal?


29 posted on 04/09/2013 5:40:37 PM PDT by ez (Laws are for little people. Criminals, politicians, police, and David Gregory are exempt.)
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To: shankbear
How do you get a gun on the internet? I have ordered online but I had to pick it up from an FFL who called in a background check.

Same here. I haven't seen a web site yet with guns for sale where you don't have to go through an FFL.

30 posted on 04/09/2013 5:42:48 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: SeekAndFind
Blah blah blah... Never vote for repubs again...

Blah blah blah... No more money from me...

Blah blah blah... I'm through with the repubs...

So much whining.

Since our so-called representatives have decided to begin the process of disarming our citizens to the point that we cannot eventually forcefully reform our government as Jefferson noted we should if necessary, then it is our duty to stand up and do what is right before we reach the point that our efforts will be in vain.

Yes, stand up to them now, or sit down, STFU and enjoy being a slave to the federal government.

31 posted on 04/09/2013 5:43:20 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ban whatever you ruling class scum want, and try banning gravity while you’re at it. See how well it goes for you. Illegal edicts will be ignored flagrantly and openly. We as citizens don’t need government’s permission to buy, barter, trade private property. Your move.


32 posted on 04/09/2013 5:45:56 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: Slings and Arrows

Yep, sold out again.
My wife and I are both filling out our Illinois FOID cards tonight. We’ll get our pics taken tomorrow and send them out. Hopefully, we’ll have them before Soetoro wipes his ass with the BOR..


33 posted on 04/09/2013 5:46:09 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: SeekAndFind

What they’re saying is if I go to a gunshow and sell you my personal gun, the government wants to know about it. Just another way to register all those guns that change hands between idividuals. It’s that simple.

It’s amazing how gullible left wing gun owners are. They still don’t believe the government wants to take your guns. They still don’t believe obama wants to destroy this country.


34 posted on 04/09/2013 5:54:10 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Pox

Are you suggesting the use of weapons to make your point?


35 posted on 04/09/2013 5:54:23 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: fatnotlazy
Toomey is a Traitor.

The 2A is the one thing the Republicans actually stand for, and they fail to do even that.

Screw em! Toomey is a POS, as is any RINO who supports this.

36 posted on 04/09/2013 5:57:37 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m so friggin’ done with that canal of GOP backstabbers. To hell with every last one of them.


37 posted on 04/09/2013 5:57:53 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: old curmudgeon

That comes after the slaughtering of innocent folk who are simply practicing their Constitutional rights. Just war clause and such.


38 posted on 04/09/2013 5:59:19 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: ScottinVA

Canal = Cabal


39 posted on 04/09/2013 5:59:55 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: centurion316

I’m guessing that the difference between Obama’s background check and the previous background check is that registration will be required. Of course, no one will know that until they sign it into law. But that’s my prediction.


40 posted on 04/09/2013 6:00:17 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Remember when Toomey was the Tea Party candidate to beat Arlen Spector? I guess that isn’t working out. They think that once elected they can do anything they want so as to fit in with the club.


41 posted on 04/09/2013 6:01:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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42 posted on 04/09/2013 6:02:17 PM PDT by onyx
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To: shankbear
How do you get a gun on the internet? I have ordered online but I had to pick it up from an FFL who called in abackground check. Is there a double secret probation internet purchase method off the record deal, thingamabob?

Exactly!!! This just shows how stupid politicians are. I dare any one of them to show us where anyone can purchase a firearm on the internet without it having to go through an FFL. You CAN NOT do it. It is already ILLEGAL! This also goes to prove how stupid the general public is. I bet 90% of the people who read this think it's a good "common sense" idea. God help us.
43 posted on 04/09/2013 6:04:17 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: ScottinVA

I thought you meant it as in “’sewage canal’ of Republicans...

Democrat Senators up in 2014:

Baucus, Max (D-MT)
Begich, Mark (D-AK)
Coons, Christopher A. (D-DE)
Cowan, William M. (D-MA)
Durbin, Richard J. (D-IL)
Franken, Al (D-MN)
Hagan, Kay R. (D-NC)
Harkin, Tom (D-IA)
Johnson, Tim (D-SD)
Landrieu, Mary L. (D-LA)
Lautenberg, Frank R. (D-NJ)
Levin, Carl (D-MI)
Merkley, Jeff (D-OR)
Pryor, Mark L. (D-AR)
Reed, Jack (D-RI)
Rockefeller, John D., IV (D-WV)
Shaheen, Jeanne (D-NH)
Udall, Mark (D-CO)
Udall, Tom (D-NM)
Warner, Mark R. (D-VA)


44 posted on 04/09/2013 6:04:36 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: old curmudgeon
I’m suggesting taking whatever action is called for to reverse the path we’re on.
45 posted on 04/09/2013 6:10:09 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s time to get the Tea Party organized!


46 posted on 04/09/2013 6:13:55 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think that all Internet guns sales already require background checks. The firearm has to be sent to the customer via an FFL, who runs a background check while you wait.


47 posted on 04/09/2013 6:25:28 PM PDT by expat2
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To: Slings and Arrows

And, it’s not even a Federal issue, in fact.

As long as we allow our rights to be stripped away, we should not be surprised that the elected elite continue to chip away at our freedoms.
If we want the country back, we’ll have to take it...one step, one argument, one vote at a time.


48 posted on 04/09/2013 6:34:57 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: EternalVigilance

49 posted on 04/09/2013 6:46:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t wait until we start throwing these ***holes in jail for violating our Second Amendment rights.


50 posted on 04/09/2013 6:49:57 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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