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Guam prepares as North Korea threatened to fire nuclear missiles (Musudan's 1.2t payload)
Island Business ^ | 11 Apr 2013

Posted on 04/10/2013 6:35:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Guam prepares as North Korea threatened to fire nuclear missiles

HAGATNA, Guam ---- Almost 100 U.S army personnel will deploy to Guam in coming weeks as the Pentagon moves one of its missile defense systems designed to knock down hostile targets in the upper atmosphere.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: guanm; musudan; nkorea

1 posted on 04/10/2013 6:35:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 04/10/2013 6:36:28 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump


3 posted on 04/10/2013 6:37:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TigerLikesRooster

NOW we’ll see if that island tips over!!!


4 posted on 04/10/2013 6:41:17 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Jet Jaguar

For some reason I don’t believe the Norks can hit a target with one of their missiles.


5 posted on 04/10/2013 6:42:03 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

1.2 tons would seem to be plenty of lift for a modern nuclear weapon

But the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs each weighed two tons.


6 posted on 04/10/2013 6:43:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Could they hit Japan by accident?


7 posted on 04/10/2013 6:46:07 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Red_Devil 232
For some reason I don’t believe the Norks can hit a target with one of their missiles.

Maybe they don't need to. How high in the atmosphere would they need to set off a nuke, trigger an EMP and basically shut down the country's power grid, internet, navigational systems not to mention bring transportation to a screeching halt? I'm not a physicist, but is that a possibility?

8 posted on 04/10/2013 6:47:41 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: tbw2

Yes, and probable.....


9 posted on 04/10/2013 6:47:54 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: YankeeReb

This whole thing has gone from “funny’ to somber and serious.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 6:50:42 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hey, if our guys tip over the Island, the missile will hit coral and do nothing. What a great idea. We have got to thank that Ahole Democrat who suggested it.


11 posted on 04/10/2013 6:55:07 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Red_Devil 232

We can’t keep thinking of conventional means of delivery or attack. 19 jihadists brought havoc and mayhem to our land through unconventional means and the norks have greater creativity than Al Qaeda. Just a human-delivered dirty bomb detonated in Seoul or Tokyo could throw the world economy into another tailspin, and with it, the immediate surrender of our “leadership”.


12 posted on 04/10/2013 7:04:20 PM PDT by cll (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me)
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To: BenLurkin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

nukes got smaller.

not quite down the nuclear hand grenade where squad could really make good use of them, but close.


13 posted on 04/10/2013 7:07:27 PM PDT by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: redlegplanner

Understood.

I’m just not sure what the Norks are capable of.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 7:08:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: YankeeReb

If North Korea goes to full war, you can bet dollars to donughts that they would first set off an EMP over the Korean Penninsula. If they have developed one. They could shield most everything during the blast and at any rate, they seem to do fine without much electricity.


15 posted on 04/10/2013 7:10:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Too bad there’s not a technology to return missiles to sender as in a boomerang steer effect.


16 posted on 04/10/2013 7:31:00 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wouldn’t it be better to just fill up all the empty pads again?


17 posted on 04/10/2013 7:31:46 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
mentos coke photo: Coke Mentos 1269729019697.gif

Nork's can't aim more specifically than the Pacific Ocean with those Scud/Frog based rockets

18 posted on 04/10/2013 7:35:45 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: YankeeReb

100 miles. The EMP effect could cover about 2/3rds of the country.


19 posted on 04/10/2013 8:19:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: YankeeReb
I'm not a physicist, but is that a possibility?

Nope your not. This battle plan has been thought our kicked around altered and updated for the last 60 years.
Triad is a really good word to remember. Nuclear weapons launched by ground based solid fueled missiles as in Minute Man III’s, air delivered weapons as in nuclear cruise missiles from our heavy bombers or nuclear bombs from a carrier based aircraft, and missiles with nuclear warheads launched from our subs. Taking out the Internet in Guam with a nuclear weapon will trigger a nuclear hell for North Korea.
Hey, baby kim, F you!!!!!!!

20 posted on 04/10/2013 8:26:40 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s goiong to capsize?


21 posted on 04/10/2013 9:02:00 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Red_Devil 232
For some reason I don’t believe the Norks can hit a target with one of their missiles

Never underestimate your adversary

That would be be bad

22 posted on 04/10/2013 9:14:36 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: BenLurkin
But the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs each weighed two tons.

First nukes were overdesigned in several aspects. First, there was no time for much testing. There was only one test, and that was a stationary device on a tower, and nobody knew for a fact that it will explode. The droppable bomb was designed, built and dropped without complete testing. So it had to be designed with a lot of redundancy.

Then there was a concern what would happen if the airplane crashes on liftoff. There weren't too many safeties in the bomb. So it had to be loaded into the airplane partially assembled, and then an engineer would finish the assembly in flight. All this resulted in a larger design that was easier to work on.

After a while those issues were cleaned up. NK today does not need to wonder if the physical theory of nuclear chain reactions is valid. They only need to do very specific mechanical work - and even that is not easy for them, with their prehistoric machines. But on the other hand they don't have to deliver a 100 kT explosion. The western world today is pampered, enlightened, and delicate. A harsh word would send it reeling. A mere 5 kT nuke - which will have very limited effect on the ground - can result in surrender of many of those enlightened foes "if it will save just one life." France, for example, surrendered early in World War II. This happens when enough of the population doesn't care who exactly is ruling over them; when it's not a single nation anymore, bound by common ideals, but just a collection of strangers who couldn't care less about those common ideals.

23 posted on 04/10/2013 10:07:39 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The reports I’ve seen indicate five mobile units carrying Scuds, Nodongs are deployed to the coast of Hamgyong Province and at least two Musudans are ready for launch in Kangwon Province.

I would guess that they are looking for a simultaneous launch sometime in the next five days to test our ship-board missile defenses.

Your thoughts?


24 posted on 04/11/2013 8:01:47 AM PDT by gandalftb
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