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"You Creationists are Not Qualified to Discuss Such Matters!"
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=4546 ^ | 2012 Apologetics Press, Inc. All rights reserved. | Jeff Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: schaef21

See the man who is wise in his own eyes?
There is more hope for a fool than for him.


201 posted on 04/15/2013 5:05:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: allmendream

“...demean Christianity and insist that if one accepts science one must deny the Bible...”

You got that backwards


202 posted on 04/15/2013 5:08:21 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

“science”, falsely so called.


203 posted on 04/15/2013 5:10:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: schaef21

“...I wish you luck next year in the third grade....”

shouldn’t resort to insults.

But I LOL at this statement.

I don’t often.

thanks


204 posted on 04/15/2013 5:13:25 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: MrB
“...“science”, falsely so called....”

some people insist on defining a word and claim “ownership” of it.

This person insists on using straw-man arguments, and false assumptions.

Which is what the article is all about. The “scientific” evidence does not contradict the Biblical accounts. It is just a matter of whom you will believe (Satan or Moses).

Thanks!

205 posted on 04/15/2013 5:22:54 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Either way it is backwards and useless and a denial of the brotherhood of Christian faith and exactly what militant atheists want people to believe.

So you are still not qualified to answer the questions I asked you a dozen times? You prove the assertion of the thread title!


206 posted on 04/15/2013 5:26:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: MrB
“..“science”, falsely so called...”

I love science, and I was indoctrinated too, though I would have been called a Theistic evolutionist. I was young and had the same difficulty in rectifying the seemingly conflict in “modern science” and the Bible.

But I Thank God for dedicated Men (& women scientist) who saw the errors and had the courage to put their lives and careers at risk (less so now as back then).

I saw the light!

And being extreme analytical and logical as I am (to everyone's grief) I managed to put the pieces together and break the paradigm. I am a Creationist (as in interpretation). And very proud of it. But I understand the struggle, It is hard to admit your belief is wrong, especially if you like science. Sorry for long explanation (x-automotive engineer)

207 posted on 04/15/2013 5:35:45 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom
He reasonably answers your questions for caring for the animals. (i.e., dormant, metabolism, hibernation nature's way)

To say he 'reasonably answers' is a bit of a stretch. And he doesn't answer what happens to the fish, insects, and invertebrates. Can you?

208 posted on 04/15/2013 5:35:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: allmendream

“...So you are still not qualified to answer the questions I asked you a dozen times? You prove the assertion of the thread title!..”

I agree with the attacks on the Christian Faith.

“..One must first open their eyes to see...”

I am glad I can count on you.
Thanks!


209 posted on 04/15/2013 5:39:44 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

I could have written the exact same thing as you just did.
I’m an electrical engineer myself...

The “conflicts” were a huge stumbling block for me.
The brave scientists that showed me that there are no conflicts, just false assumptions, cleared that block for me.


210 posted on 04/15/2013 5:43:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DoodleDawg
“..what happens to the fish, insects, and invertebrates. Can you?..”

I can.

Try John C. Whitcomb and Henry M. Morris’ book.
“The GenesisFlood”

They give a better discussion than myself in the space and time available to me.

This is very basic answer.
(less emotional)

thanks

211 posted on 04/15/2013 5:45:27 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

How about a quick summary?


212 posted on 04/15/2013 6:12:42 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: kimtom

Pitiable and useless. Creationists must keep their eyes closed to the evidence of the truely amazing mechanisms of God’s universe. Creationism is useless.


213 posted on 04/15/2013 6:31:40 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

“..Pitiable and useless...”

I disagree, Creation IS the mechanism,

but you may have the last word.


214 posted on 04/15/2013 6:46:00 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: DoodleDawg
“..summary..”

Well it deals with the hydraulics and geology.
How animals could survive on ark.
and which many may not have survived even after the flood.

Fish and invertebrate:

Only air breathing needed saving (land dwelling)
as for insects:
Some may have rode out the flood on debris, and or their eggs. Plus as stowaways they would have occupied any place on the ark they wanted. Some insects hibernate.
Of course their importance to the ecosystem can not be debated.

Just as important is the Hand of God in all this.

215 posted on 04/15/2013 7:00:25 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Creation is ongoing and magic miracles are not the mechanism. I was created by God from dust, and to dust my body will return. The mechanism of my physical creation required no miraculous intervention.


216 posted on 04/15/2013 7:29:35 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: kimtom; allmendream; tacticalogic; BroJoeK; schaef21
For a scientific mechanism, it must be specific and falsifiable.

I don't think the two Genesis Creation accounts can be interpreted literally due to the fact that there are two Genesis accounts describing the Creator with two very different names.

217 posted on 10/03/2013 10:28:02 PM PDT by R7 Rocket (The Cathedral is Sovereign, you're not. Unfortunately, the Cathedral is crazy.)
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To: kimtom

To qualify to discuss a topic, one must understand the topic first.


218 posted on 10/03/2013 10:28:02 PM PDT by R7 Rocket (The Cathedral is Sovereign, you're not. Unfortunately, the Cathedral is crazy.)
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To: R7 Rocket

That is only YOUR opinion...for what that’s worth, and only an opinion.

Like Mine!!

:)


219 posted on 10/04/2013 4:22:21 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: R7 Rocket

two Genesis accounts describing the Creator with two very different names....”

elaborate


220 posted on 10/04/2013 4:23:25 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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