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"You Creationists are Not Qualified to Discuss Such Matters!"
http://www.apologeticspress.org/APContent.aspx?category=9&article=4546 ^ | 2012 Apologetics Press, Inc. All rights reserved. | Jeff Miller, Ph.D.

Posted on 04/11/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: allmendream
So those that accept that all modern species descended from those “kinds” that DID fit on the Ark, far from not believing in evolution - must necessarily believe in SUPER DUPER (micro) evolution.

Hollywood Evolution

181 posted on 04/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: Oztrich Boy
The work actually misspelled was "Manny".

Actually the work misspelled was "word".

182 posted on 04/11/2013 5:37:33 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
touché
183 posted on 04/11/2013 5:43:00 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: schaef21
...Those are the words of Jesus Christ.... who you claim to be your Lord and Savior... and he validated the historicity of Noah and the flood in this passage....”

II Peter 3:3-6

Evolutionist (who claim to be Christians, aka; Theistic evolutionist) deny a global flood. which accounts for most fossils.
They reject Geologist/ Biologist who blow the whistle on their false assumptions and data collecting. (woodmorappe)

God spoke it and it Happened, thru our Lord, in whom nothing was made without. (John 1:1-5)

We live in Dark times, when men call Good, evil and Evil good.

Keep the Faith,

184 posted on 04/12/2013 4:47:14 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom
If you REALLY want to know look into it.

Woodmorappe says that there were about 16,000 animals on the ark - mammals, birds, and reptiles. He doesn't explain how fish and insects survive, or invertebrates like worms. So how did they survive anyway?

How did Noah's family of a dozen or so people care for 16,000 animals anyway? Woodmorappe likens the task to a modern factory farm where tens of thousands of chickens are raised and fed by a handfull of people, but that's an easy task by comparison. Feeding and caring for a homogeneous groups of animals is far different than caring for 16,000 animals, each with their own diet and their own needs. So how was it that a handful of people could care for all those animals for months on end?

As to the subject of waste removal, Woodmorappe speculates that Noah had the animals for months before the ark was completed, and in that time he trained them to poop and pee in buckets, thus making waste removal on the ark easier and more efficient. Really? Training 16000 animals to poop on command and in a receptical? It was hard enough housebreaking my dog, how do you do that for an elephant?

His proposals for how the ark was ventilated, what the interior environment was like, and all the rest are equally hard to believe. The tale of Noah is just as hard to believe as the rest of YEC.

185 posted on 04/12/2013 6:04:19 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DManA

***Do you consider your theory of creation a doctrine?***

Hi DManA -

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I’d call the Biblical Account of creation.

Yes. It is a doctrine of the Christian faith.


186 posted on 04/12/2013 6:18:53 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: allmendream; MrB; kimtom

***Calling me out for bad manners after your declaration that I am only claiming to be a Christian takes some rather blatant ignorance and gall - but that is all you have apparently - you sure are not qualified to discuss scientific matters!***

I don’t know what’s in your heart, allmendream. That’s between you and the Lord. I see nothing in your posts that would lead me to believe that you truly have Christ in your heart.

I’m around Christians a lot. I’ll be leaving in a few minutes to spend all day at a Homeschool Expo. I see none of the things in you that I will see in the people who I will meet today.

Here’s my evidence:

You mock fellow Christians - antibiblical
You deny the plain words of Christ in Mark 10:6 - antibiblical
You deny the plain words of Christ in Luke 17 - antibiblical

The fruits of the spirit in Galatians 5 are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness & self-control - You exhibit none of these.
In fact, you are the antithesis of these.

You apparently accept the miracles of Jesus as true but reject the idea that the Creator of the Universe would be capable of a global flood.... even after Christ validated it.

I hope you are saved allmendream. I also hope you have a change of heart. The unbelieving world should see Christ in a believer. Do you think people on this forum see Christ in you? I’m sorry. I don’t see it... and I’m sure nobody else does either.

There are tons of theological reasons to reject evolution AND there are tons of scientific reasons as well. You have to be willing to examine and evaluate them. I hope you’ll actually do that allmendream. There are plenty of resources out there that will answer every question you have.

The best thing you can do is repent of your behavior and let the light of Christ shine in you (if He is in fact in you).


187 posted on 04/12/2013 6:43:09 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21
I’ll be leaving in a few minutes to spend all day at a Homeschool Expo.

Ah... this is my yearly recharge. Ours was last weekend.
It's an island of the Kingdom in the midst of a fallen world.

188 posted on 04/12/2013 6:44:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: schaef21

You’re right in the rest of the post as well.

By their fruits you shall know them.


189 posted on 04/12/2013 6:45:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: schaef21

I will pray for you. Your hatred for and rejection of millions of Christians has made you an anti Christian fanatic.


190 posted on 04/12/2013 6:51:50 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

You’ve become a caricature, allmendream.


191 posted on 04/12/2013 7:21:01 AM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21

Thanks for being honest. Than, at least for you, it is inaccurate to call it creation science.


192 posted on 04/12/2013 7:28:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: schaef21
And you are apparently incapable of discussing any issue without attempting to make it personal and about the salvation of the person who disagrees with you, right from the get go. Then getting all whiny and crying about “mockery” after your blatant personal attack.

Two groups insist that acceptance of science is incompatible with religious belief - militant atheists and militant creationists. You are on the side of and in absolute agreement with militant atheists who attempt to use scientific learning to turn people away from God. You are their ally in their struggle to demean Christianity and insist that if one accepts science one must deny the Bible.

I will pray for you.

193 posted on 04/12/2013 7:32:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream; MrB; kimtom

You are just like the left wing zealots everyone of this site abhors.

You accuse others of tactics that you yourself use and you put words in their mouth and accuse them of saying things they never said and then blast them for saying it (even though it was never said.)

Saul Alinsky would be proud of you.

I’ll let those who read these threads determine who is “Incapable of discussion” and whiny.

I wish you luck next year in the third grade.


194 posted on 04/12/2013 4:11:06 PM PDT by schaef21
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To: DManA

Hi DManA.

They are not mutually exclusive concepts.


195 posted on 04/12/2013 4:16:51 PM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21

Keep crying! Your capable of nothing but personal attacks on Christians who disagree with you. I will pray for you. You need it bad. You are full of hate and ignorance.


196 posted on 04/12/2013 5:01:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream; MrB; kimtom

***Keep crying! Your capable of nothing but personal attacks on Christians who disagree with you. I will pray for you. You need it bad. You are full of hate and ignorance.***

One thing I can tell you for sure, allmendream. God Almighty not only knows which one of us is “full of hate and ignorance”, he knows which one of us hurls false accusations and which one of us has Christ in his heart and which one doesn’t.

There are a whole bunch of Christians with whom I disagree that I will see in the Kingdom. Doctrinal agreement has nothing to do with salvation. If you’ll look back at the thread you’ll see that I never said that.

I question your salvation because you exhibit not one attribute of someone who has been saved by grace. I took great pains in outlining those reasons in previous posts

EPHESIANS 4:15

but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ.

1 PETER 3:15-16

15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; 16 having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed.

I’ll let you have the last word now, allmendream, that seems to be what you want here....


197 posted on 04/12/2013 6:07:44 PM PDT by schaef21
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To: MrB

Hey MrB....

It was a great day.... I agree with you 100%.... it was an island of the Kingdom in the midst of a lost world.

You can’t help be encouraged and joyful around the people of God.

Blessings......

Schaef21


198 posted on 04/12/2013 6:10:54 PM PDT by schaef21
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To: schaef21

The entirety of your posts to me are personal attacks and crying about me mocking you. Like a two year old who comes in swinging gets knocked down and cries that they are picking on him! Cry more!! It amuses me. You sure are not qualified or able to discuss science.


199 posted on 04/12/2013 6:17:47 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: DoodleDawg
He reasonably answers your questions for caring for the animals. (i.e., dormant, metabolism, hibernation nature's way)

you can choose to accept the explanation, or make fun of it.
Your choice, as well as your eternity.

But I do not mind sincere questions.

thanks

200 posted on 04/15/2013 5:03:55 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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