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Peak Oil Flip-Flop
National Geographic ^ | April 10, 2013 | Bill Chameides

Posted on 04/14/2013 10:46:26 AM PDT by nickcarraway

There’s a new twist in the “peak oil” debate. Is it good news for the climate?

Peak Oil Question Remains, Debate Continues

Ever since M. King Hubbert advanced the theory of peak oil in 1956, experts and non-experts alike have been debating about timing and relevance. (See here, here, here and here.) Hubbert’s argument seems like a no-brainer. Oil is a finite natural resource, so there must come a time when oil production peaks and begins to decline. The question is, when? And for a world economy that is largely fueled by oil, that “when” question is quite germane. If peak oil hits while oil demand is rising, it could spell worldwide economic disaster.

The world of oil punditry is replete with predictors of an imminent arrival of peak oil. (See here, here, here and here.) Folks bullish on oil, on the other hand, have long held that that time is way in the future, that there is plenty of oil in the ground and that whenever supply begins to be outstripped by demand, new technologies will be developed to get at what had been deemed to be economically unrecoverable.

History Shows That When Oil Prices Rise, Oil Production Responds

The historical verdict, so far, seems to be in favor of the oil industry bulls. Each time dwindling supplies and/or surging demand have caused oil prices to rise, the economics of high oil prices have spurred the development of new sources to quell the imbalance.

The latest ups and downs in the economy and the oil industry seem to follow that scenario. Remember the skyrocketing gasoline prices of 2005 and 2006 before the July 2008 peak? As in previous oil shocks, there were warnings that peak oil had arrived and that we should all get ready for even higher prices at the pump.

But that didn’t happen. First we were “saved” by the economic crash of 2008 — which some argue was actually “a direct result of peak oil.” The crash caused demand for oil and therefore prices as well to fall. Lots of folks, myself included, assumed that the reprieve from the economic slowdown was temporary and that oil prices would rise, possibly even more sharply than before once the global economy got going again.

(Source: U.S. Energy Information Administration)

Fortunately that hasn’t happened. The economic recovery, while tepid, is underway. And while oil prices have recovered somewhat, they have not hit the July 2008 peak, let alone shot above it. (See related: “Outlook for U.S. Gas Prices: A Bit Lower This Summer“)

So what’s going on? As you might expect, there are a variety of opinions. Some continue to warn that a spike in prices at the pump is just around the corner — for example see these predictions (here and here).

Others claim that we are seeing the same demand-and-supply response that we’ve seen in the past. The runup of oil prices in 2007 and 2008 sparked new investments that have increased production and moderated prices. And this argument is supported by data showing an approximate 10 percent uptick in world oil supplies since 2009.

A New Paradigm Proposed

But now two new reports — “Global Oil Demand Growth — The End is Nigh” by Seth Kleinman et al. of Citigroup and “The End of an Era: The Death of Peak Oil” [pdf] from Robin Wehbé et al. of the Boston Company — argue that something entirely different and rather unprecedented is underway. Both reports argue that we have entered a new era, one characterized not by the spectre of a supply peak, but by a demand peak that will assure that demand will not outstrip supply for quite some time to come.

The reasons for peak oil demand:

Fuel economy. Recall the new fuel efficiency standards (known as CAFE, short for corporate average fuel economy) promulgated by the Obama administration with the support of the automotive industry? They will certainly have a moderating influence on U.S. oil demand. But the United States isn’t alone. Fuel economy standards are tightening throughout the world, including in China, the European Union, Japan and Canada. Fuel efficiency is expected to rise for trucks as well. The net result — global fuel efficiency on cars and trucks, which has languished for decades, will increase annually by about 2.5 percent. Substitution of natural gas for oil. The authors project that the revolution in natural gas supplies wrought by shale extraction will have a major ripple effect on the oil industry. Huge new supplies of natural gas [pdf] will continue to lead to low prices in natural gas and that in turn will lead to substitution of natural gas for oil. (Indeed this has already begun.) As a result. we’ll see a shift in the following: Transportation, especially for trucks and other large vehicles currently powered by diesel. Power generation. Though not very common in the United States, oil is still used to generate electricity. For example some 8 percent of New York State’s electricity is generated from oil, and in 2008, worldwide, about a trillion kilowatts of electricity (out of a total of 19 trillion kilowatts) was generated from oil. Kleinman et al. predict that is about to change as old oil-fueled power plants are replaced by gas-fired ones. Petrochemicals too. Currently the petrochemical industry primarily uses oil as a feedstock. But natural gas, especially so-called wet gas, contains ethane, which can also serve as a feedstock for chemical synthesis. Low natural gas prices have already begun the substitution that the authors predict will accelerate into the future. Of course for this to happen on a global scale, natural gas must become a global commodity that can be traded and transported from producing regions to consumers. No problem, say Kleinman et al. — the answer will be liquid natural gas (LNG). They opine:

“[O]nce the next wave of LNG export projects comes to market … global LNG markets should loosen materially. This raises the prospect of lower spot prices, and a greater incentive for gas for oil substitution to spread and accelerate globally. Hence, the assumption that substitution outside of the US starts to accelerate post 2016.”

But that’s not all. The Boston Company goes even further, arguing that the emergence of peak oil demand is being also driven by an unprecedented shift in consumer behavior. For years the accepted wisdom has been that consumer demand was inelastic with respect to price — in other words, even if prices change, demand remains much the same. The Boston Company report points to data since 1970 showing that each time the price of oil rose above 3 or 6 percent of gross domestic product, demand was reduced or quickly curtailed. Thus, they argue, price, not supply, now limits demand.

Suffice it to say — and I’ll note this is par for the course when it comes to the peak oil debate — not everyone agrees with these predictions (see chart).

Citigroup forecasts a very modest increase in demand that plateaus near 2020 (see also Fig. 1, page 2) while BP and the International Energy Agency (IEA) project a larger, steadily increasing demand of 0.7-0.8 percent. I expect the projected demand growth in the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) forecast will be revised downward in the report due out this spring. ExxonMobil projects a 1.5 percent annual increase in demand from 2010 to 2025. (See End Note for sources.**)

Could Climate Be a Winner?

At least on the face of it, the projections of Citigroup and the Boston Company if they pan out would be good news for the climate. The world is replete with hydrocarbons and it may very well be true that, as the oil bulls have been telling us, technological innovation will make it possible for us to economically pull all the hydrocarbons in their various forms out of the ground to burn them if we so choose. And it certainly seems like advances in fracking and horizontal drilling have moved us a big step closer in that regard.

The questions we should be asking ourselves are: Do we want to pull all this stuff out of the ground, and How much is too much before the climate price is too dear to pay for cheap oil?

The fact that oil demand may be flattening out is a positive sign for the climate; at least the near-term pressure to pull all the oil out of the ground as fast as possible has lessened. (A caveat here: some of the oil demand flattening is due to switching from one fossil fuel — oil — to another — natural gas, which while cleaner than oil, still puts carbon dioxide in the atmosphere when burned.)

Interestingly enough, this peak oil demand phenomenon, if it comes to pass, will have occurred of its own accord without a global accord on carbon emissions. Is the system somehow correcting itself on its own? If so, the “system” better get busy because there’s a lot more to do — not just flattening demand but actually turning the demand curve downward, and not just for oil but for all hydrocarbons. Tall order. Maybe the “system’s” response will be to engineer a global climate treaty. And if that happens, who gets the credit?

__________________ End Note ** Sources for chart: “Global Oil Demand Growth — The End is Nigh,” Seth Kleinman et al., Citigroup, March 2013. Energy Outlook 2030, BP, January 2013 (data [xls]). North America leads shift in global energy balance, IEA says in latest World Energy Outlook, International Energy Agency, November 2012. “International Energy Outlook 2011,” U.S. EIA, September 19, 2011. “The Outlook for Energy: A View to 2040,” ExxonMobil, 2013.


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To: TArcher
There have been several water wells fracked around here and no one has complained once.”

Please notice I was referring to Water Wells. The only problem with fracking water wells is that there may be no increase in water production. This possibility is discussed beforehand and is spelled out in the contract. There have been no problems with fracking water wells in my little community.

OOPS

21 posted on 04/14/2013 12:37:31 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

“Water fouled with fracking chemicals spews near Windsor”
By Mark Jaffe
The Denver Post
Posted: 12/09/2011 01:00:00 AM MST
Updated: 12/09/2011 09:03:24 AM MST
“..PDC has reported two other spills near Greeley in the past few weeks. Both contaminated groundwater, according to a state database of spills...”
http://www.denverpost.com/environment/ci_22586154/water-fouled-fracking-chemicals-spews-near-windsor


“Ooops”
{ gurgle, gurgle }


22 posted on 04/14/2013 12:40:00 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Those spills were a very long way form me and several mountains in the way also. I don;t expect they could possibly affect my ground water. If Chickenpooper drank some fracking fluid it can't be dangerous.
23 posted on 04/14/2013 12:45:22 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Evidently the Windsorites experience with fracking differs from that in your “little community”.

Tell us again about how Anthropomorphic effects upon climate are responsible for the new ice age in your “little community”.

That was pretty funny.


24 posted on 04/14/2013 12:47:40 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: mountainlion

>>If Chickenpooper drank some fracking fluid it can’t be dangerous.

How do you know it was fracking fluid and not koolaid imported from Californistan?


25 posted on 04/14/2013 12:50:36 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: nickcarraway

” The economic recovery, while tepid, is underway.”

Right,roger that. Underway. Cool.


26 posted on 04/14/2013 12:52:14 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: TArcher
That is the most dangerous problem with fracking in that the Kalifornica kool aid in now infecting Colorado in manor way.
27 posted on 04/14/2013 12:53:46 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

It’s certainly not the conservative state I grew up in anymore.

How do you know it was Fracking Fluid?

Do you believe everything the libtar(D)s with their snout in the state’s bureaucratic trough tell you?


28 posted on 04/14/2013 12:58:08 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
That’s your credibility circling the toilet bowl.

Your "credibility" is linked to a speculative newspaper article? Agenda related, maybe?

From the article you linked..:

... About 90 percent of U.S. wells, and almost all in Colorado, are hydrofractured or fracked by forcing a mixture of water, sand and trace chemicals into a well to crack rock and release oil and gas. Industry executives and state regulators, including Colorado regulators, have said there were no documented cases of fracking directly polluting groundwater....

The EPA study "gives a probability, not a conclusion, said Douglas Hock, a spokesman for Calgary-based Encana Corp., the operator in the Pavillion field.

The origin of the chemicals is still not certain, Hock said....


29 posted on 04/14/2013 12:58:51 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("...once a bell is rung by a biased media, it's impossible to un-ring it."-Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: TArcher; Carry_Okie
"(with the usual Kudos to FReeper Carie Okie)"

How can one tell if your "kudos" are legitimate when you mis-spell the FReepername of the one you claim to attribute all this beautiful posted info???

30 posted on 04/14/2013 1:03:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: TArcher

I grew up outside of Boulder. To tell if a liberal/communist is lying check to see if his lips are moving.


31 posted on 04/14/2013 1:04:34 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Oil is a finite natural resource,”

And just where is there the slightest bit of proof that oil is any more finite than light from the sun?

Do “Peak-Oil” proponents still believe in the hypotheses of liquified dinasaurs or quadrillions of tillions of tons of minute organisms all collecting in the same place in some life ending but unexplained prehistoric die-off?


32 posted on 04/14/2013 1:08:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: WVKayaker

>>Agenda related, maybe?

As opposed to the (not)agenda-driven resting of the credibility of one’s “little community” upon a sandy claim by the (D)imowit governor that he drank Fracking Fluid. Uhuh.

When does Governor Chickenlooper plan on having Fracking Fluid on tap at the Wynkoop brewery?


33 posted on 04/14/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: mountainlion

>>To tell if a liberal/communist is lying check to see
>>if his lips are moving.

Were governor Chickenlooper’s lips mooving when he drank the fracking fluid?

Observe the recent record of the kleptocrats attached to the “green” energy bidness in Colorado:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=pat+stryker+abound+solar+fraud

I wonder if they’d drink Fracking Fluid was well if it was on tap down at the Wynkoop?


34 posted on 04/14/2013 1:19:39 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: TArcher
Chickenpooper’s tong must have been moving to so that is close to a lie. Saw a sigh on a urinal, “Flush twice as it is a long way to Coors”.
35 posted on 04/14/2013 1:28:57 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SamuraiScot

Indeed. Does the term “rock-oil” not suggest something? They have been talking about this question since Col. Drake’s time.


36 posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:27 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: JDoutrider

mark


37 posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:29 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: nickcarraway
There are more known reserves today than at any time in history. Guess we haven't hit the Peak yet.

And with technology improving, there will always be more that we can find, develop, or make economically viable (eg oil sands).

It's a nice little logic game, but the Peak Oil idea fails to hint at the potential fact that we may not yet have discovered even 0.001% of what exists at this moment. We certainly haven't worried about Peak Gold or any other mineral that has been eagerly taken from the ground for thousands of years... and yet somehow, because we MAY have found almost half of what we can use, we should immediately work to abandon the trillions of dollars of wealth we have under the ground. Idiotic. Use it now while it has utility... or else we abandon trillions of dollars for NOTHING.

38 posted on 04/14/2013 1:34:52 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: WVKayaker

“State regulators say at least 84,000 gallons of water contaminated with oil and chemicals used in hydraulic fracturing spilled from a broken well-head in a field about 4 miles north of Windsor.”
http://www.denverpost.com/environment/ci_22586154/water-fouled-fracking-chemicals-spews-near-windsor


Please point out the above facts that are “speculative”?


39 posted on 04/14/2013 1:46:37 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: Teacher317
Peak oil is based on the liquid recovery kind not the solid mining type which by the way requires far more energy to extract than the former, hence the need for higher prices. Because of the this, peak oil attributed to Hubbard, really means end of cheap oil. Second peak oil is based on known production curve not supply in the ground though the size of the supply in the ground will usually dictate higher flow rates. All oil fields will at some point have a peak flow rate and then fall off. Technology in essence has allowed us to keep the daily production rates from dropping off in the more mature fields but it comes at a draw back. When the production starts to fall off it will do so at a steep rate as opposed to a gentle one. Also what many don't seem to understand that out of the 4,000+ traditional oil field out there, only about 125 of them produce about 40% of the oil(12 of them produce something like 14% of the daily production). If these numbers don't scare you, then you and anyone else do not understand the magnitude of the problem when these fields start to go into decline which some have.

It's a nice little logic game, but the Peak Oil idea fails to hint at the potential fact that we may not yet have discovered even 0.001% of what exists at this moment.

Potential is not reality. If you where correct about the level of discoveries to be made then we wouldn't be drilling for natural gas or going after the more expensive forms of oil. Your reasoning and logic abilities have right there failed. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of the drilling holes both on land and in the sea come up dry. Further still not all those that are drilled and show some promise are extractable at current cost or even future cost do to technical problems, logistics, and just plain geology(i.e. what size the field has been determined to be). If things where as you say, then we would be hitting black gold on each drill far more than we are, but that is not happening. Those are the facts.

Also, just assuming that you are correct in your assertion, then that would mean that the vast majority of oil deposits are in many, many places, but at the same time they are far smaller pockets, most likely deeper than most we have found to date. Non of which bodes well given the logistical challenges, the cost in drilling that many more holes for far smaller pockets of oil, the cost associated with deeper wells not to mention the technological problems associated with them. All this means the price of oil would have to be far higher to even begin planning and developing technology to extract. I submit that the price will be to high to develop at any cost(save a technological miracle), since our modern civilization is based on cheap energy to survive and given the size of the population at large.

Also, as far as minerals are concerned we have found most of the large deposits. The cheapest to produce, also usually the largest deposits, go into production first since the commodity market can be rather fickle at times. It is as you say, that there are a lot of minerals in the ground and a lot of potential wealth, but like we are finding with oil the newer discoveries are smaller in size and typically more costly to produce due to far lower concentrations per ton of ore.

Finally, reserves is an accounting game. We see how wall street plays it, the oil companies do the same thing especialy since most of them are government owned. Even the private/public companies don't like to talk about the long term prospects since its not good for the future or their stock price. Peak in the liquid oil category has peaked in 2005, the difference so far has been made up with the more unconventional stuff but how long with that go on when the major fields go into decline. It is at that point when real growth stops, and things start to go in reverse and that includes the good manners of the human race which already are on the precipice do to the mismanagement of the command and control economies that have been created by our would be overlords and our apathy toward the cancer of leftist thought that has permeated every corner and foundation of our civilization. Given that, I think it far more likely to see everything unravel due to this than due to the ceiling called peak oil.
40 posted on 04/14/2013 2:51:28 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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