Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Obama lashes out: President pushing bogus statistic says gun lobby ‘willfully lied’
Twitchy ^ | April 17 , 2013

Posted on 04/17/2013 3:52:10 PM PDT by SMGFan

President Obama gave the Senate a scolding in the Rose Garden this afternoon, declaring today’s defeat of the Manchin-Toomey background check amendment “a pretty shameful day for Washington.” He blamed “politics” for the failure of the legislation and, while standing alongside Gabby Giffords and tearful Newtown families, dismissed charges that he had used people as props for “emotional blackmail.”


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhofascism; democrats; fail; guncontrol; lyingliar; nocompromise; obama; obamalies; secondamendment; tempertantrum; youlie; youwillnotdisarmus
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last
To: SMGFan
OK, Opie, I got a proposition. You demanded a vote and got your butt kicked. Want to put gun control to a popular vote? Shall we check the truth of the poll results you keep spouting? Put some money on it, maybe? Find out who's really lying?

I didn't think so.

21 posted on 04/17/2013 3:59:08 PM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

The big lie is that any of this legislation would have prevented those kids or Giffords from being shot.


22 posted on 04/17/2013 3:59:38 PM PDT by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

The prez talks as if the NRA is some kind of giant alien creature set out to destroy his country.... Hey Dumb as$..
The NRA is and are the American people. Millions of Common sense people.


23 posted on 04/17/2013 3:59:50 PM PDT by baddog 219
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

projection. His “stats” are all lies. no one supports doctors asking patients about guns. The bill has absolutely nothingto do with reality and crime. Instead he coddles criminals and leaves the borders wide open. screw him and his propaganda!


24 posted on 04/17/2013 4:00:13 PM PDT by plain talk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

I second that!


25 posted on 04/17/2013 4:01:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Mind!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boston Blackie

He acted like a three year old sniveling snot sucker.

That's not an act.


26 posted on 04/17/2013 4:01:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

It was obama who willfully lied! Everything he said about gun control was a lie - even the reason he said he wanted it! He doesn’t respect the 2nd Amendment as he said. He HATES it! His real ultimate goal was the complete banning and confiscation of the citizens’ guns. Period!


27 posted on 04/17/2013 4:01:30 PM PDT by Castigar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

Thankfully, on this whole issue, logic won over emotion. Obama using the victims of gun violence was pure kabuki theater to get what he wanted. No bill or amendment he and Reid fostered today would have prevented any of the mass shootings of the last few years and they knew it. The Dems are violently opposed to tackling the real probelm of human violence. The ACLU and his liberal well fare society and Hollywood base base will not let him go there. Otherwise, he and Kirk and durbin would concentrate on Chicgo!


28 posted on 04/17/2013 4:01:47 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

Obama is a lying bastard, in the dictionary sense of the word. And if anyone hasn’t noticed, the problem with this country is that there are too many of Obama’s people who do not have fathers.


29 posted on 04/17/2013 4:01:50 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

Maybe it was all planned this way - he “loses”, gets to demonize his enemies, and in the end he gets what he really wanted all along which is confiscation.


30 posted on 04/17/2013 4:02:01 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan
dismissed charges that he had used people as props for “emotional blackmail.”

Did some reporter actually use the term "emotional blackmail" when addressing his lord? Or was that Obama's interpretation of the gist of the question, in which case he would have used it dismissively, as in "this isn't some kind of emotional blackmail or something..."?

31 posted on 04/17/2013 4:02:10 PM PDT by Yardstick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Boston Blackie

He acted like a three year old sniveling snot sucker.


Stalin and Hitler had their tantrums and people died.

This is more proof of how evil this bastard is.

He’ll get revenge in any way he can.


32 posted on 04/17/2013 4:02:40 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Boston Blackie

He acted like a three year old sniveling snot sucker.


Stalin and Hitler had their tantrums and people died.

This is more proof of how evil this bastard is.

He’ll get revenge in any way he can.


33 posted on 04/17/2013 4:02:56 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals will never get it. Their minds have been stolen.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan; All

I missed the meltdown ... video link?


34 posted on 04/17/2013 4:02:57 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan
‘willfully lied’

talk about the pot calling....the....ke....never mind

35 posted on 04/17/2013 4:03:37 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

FYI...on the NY Safe Act

Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841, “We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.”

The letter:

To: Andrew M. Cuomo / Dean G. Skelos / Neil D. Breslin / John T- McDonald III / Phil Steck / Sheldon Silver / Jeffrey D. Klein / Cecilia Tkaczyk / Patricia Fahy Note; see the formal list of people this letter went to at the bottom.

April 15,2013

Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Albany Police Officers Union condemns and opposes the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act (the SAFE Act) Substantively, we believe that it violates fundamental constitutional rights, that it is unduly and purposely burdensome on law-abiding citizens, and” that it will not deter criminals or menially ill individuals from plotting and carrying out bloodshed and violence. Procedurally, we believe that the way in which the bill was rammed into law via an unjustified and expedient “message of necessity”, which circumvents the right and the ability of the citizens of this State to voice their concerns about the bill and have them addressed, is an outrage. This flawed law’ and the w ay in which it was rushed and passed., shows the apparent contempt that those who govern have for the governed, and. calls into question whether we truly have a representational government. Morally, we believe that this law is about ideology and politics and not about making anyone any safer. We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.

First, while we applaud and support your overall concern for public safety and your desire to improve it. The SAFE Act will not improve public safety. Criminals and the mentally ill will not abide by it, and it is either foolish or dishonest to think or suggest otherwise. While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law and not load a ten-round magazine with more than seven rounds, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence not load ten rounds into a ten-round magazine? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law that previously legal thirty-round magazines must be sold within one-year to an out-of-state resident or turn in to local authorities, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to sell or turn in his thirty-round magazines? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law requiring that they register weapons which they already do and which have been deemed “assault weapons”, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to do so? Do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to be concerned about any increase in penalties for shooting first responders? Do you really expect that a mentally ill individual who owns firearms and who is intent on doing violence will voice his intentions to his or her mental health professional and thus put into motion the confiscation of his or her firearms? Do you-really expect that a mentally ill individual will “safely store” his firearms? Of course you don’t. Again, only law-abiding citizens, who are not intent on doing violence, will abide the NY SAFE Act criminals and the mentally ill who are intent on doing violence will not do so. The public will not be any safer under this 1aw. What then, have you accomplished?

Second., the SAFE Act carries with it unfair burdens on law abiding citizen. What is the point of making law-abiding citizens register their previously lawfully owned and lawfully used firearms which are now deemed to be “assault weapons”? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens who affirmatively “opt into” protection from public identification that they hold permits or own firearms? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens renew their pistol permits or “assault weapon” registrations every five years? Why are you preemptively punishing those who have done nothing wrong?

Third, -we fully believe that the SAFE ACT broad prohibitions against will not. withstand constitutional challenge and scrutiny. The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides and U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the right of individuals to possess and carry firearms and to use them for lawful purposes. The SAFE Act, however, infringes on that right as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and” used lawfully for the defense of life, liberty, and property, and as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and used lawfully for safe use of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting.

We as police officers are on the front lines of public safety. Respectfully, none of you are. We see, feel, work, and live with the effects of gun violence in ways that you cannot. We believe that you see gun violence as a means to move your agenda and your ambitions forward. You know that the SAFE Act will not work in the way that you pretend it will. You know that this shameful SAFE Act was about ideology and politics and not about making anyone safer.

Regarding the reduction in violent crime this new legislation is proposed to have, in 2011 the most current year for which FBI crime statistics are available, New York State had 77l homicides, 445 were committed with a firearm, 394 of that 445 were committed with a handgun, 5 were committed with a rifle, 16 were committed with a shotgun, in 30 the firearm type was unknown, 160 were committed with a cutting instrument, 143 were committed with another type of weapon, and 26 were committed with bare hands. We believe based on these statistics, that the SAFE Act will do nothing to reduce violent crime as the primary target of the legislation is the “assault rifle” which would be included statistically with standard rifles and used in less than 1% of New York homicides in 2011.These so called “Assault Weapons” were not used in the commission of one reported crime in Albany County in 2011.

For the reasons set forth above, the Albany Police Union believes that the SAFE Act is wrong - substantively, procedurally, and morally. The SAFE Act infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens, it will burden and negatively impact firearms ownership by law-abiding citizens and will not affect the willingness of criminals or those who are mentally ill from perpetrating violence. Again, we respectfully demand that each and all of you do the right thing and repeal the law.

Very truly yours,

Thomas Mahar: President Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841 Council 82, AFSCME, AFI-CIO


36 posted on 04/17/2013 4:03:53 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

QUIT WHINING......YOU LOST SUCKER....................


37 posted on 04/17/2013 4:04:00 PM PDT by pasr (You are crazy,,,,,,,,,,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

>> “a pretty shameful day for Washington.”

4 years and 3 months of shame to be precise.


38 posted on 04/17/2013 4:04:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

Very pleased that he and his leftists party got smacked back this evening. We have to continue this fight because they are not giving up. Win one for the good guys and our rights. Those democratic callers on C-span were some of the most low information voters I’ve heard in a while. They were classic Obamabots.


39 posted on 04/17/2013 4:04:10 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SMGFan

If Resident Obama really wants to save lives he should support an anti-abortion bill.


40 posted on 04/17/2013 4:04:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-96 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson