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Did Boston bomber murder his 'only American friend' in horrific triple killing in 2011?
daily mail ^ | 4/22 | tomlinson

Posted on 04/22/2013 8:34:05 AM PDT by RummyChick

Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have murdered his 'only American friend' in an unsolved triple killing two years ago, it emerged today.

Brendan Mess had his 'throat slit' alongside two other men in a Massachusetts apartment in 2011 in what police described as a 'very graphic crime scene'.

Former associates of the Chechan immigrant didn't initially suspect him of carrying out the gruesome attack, but thought it was strange he didn't attend his friend's funeral.

Now one man who knew Tamerlan through the gym where they trained said some of their social circle 'without even speaking about it beforehand have all been thinking' he could be involved.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: bbtimeline; bbtriplemurder; bomber; brendanmess; dzhokhartsarnaev; erikweissman; muslim; raphaelteken; tamerlan; tamerlanfriend; tamerlantimeline; triplemurder; tsarnaev; typicalmuslim
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To: edwinland

BINGO!...we have a winner...

They had their throats slit and the dope thrown all over them?

You bet your ass it was the muzzy Mo Fo...


21 posted on 04/22/2013 10:59:39 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: RummyChick

Here are some VERY interesting links;

http://www.wickedlocal.com/brookline/news/x985870552/Community-mourns-Brookline-HS-alumnus-killed-in-Waltham-homicide?zc_p=1

Teken was Jewish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enlDT_QB4Z0

Weissman was a student at the same school as the bombers.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/09/15/police_id_3_victims_in_waltham_killings/


22 posted on 04/22/2013 11:05:30 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: GraceG
Could have been an "Initiation Rite"

Or something close. The bomber's handlers needed ways to control him. Killing someone's best friend is like having him wake up next to his horse's head. Also the handlers could keep the case hanging open as blackmail.

23 posted on 04/22/2013 11:10:45 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Great find.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 11:12:20 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: righttackle44

ABC is also reporting it. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/boston-bomb-suspect-eyed-connection-2011-triple-murder/story?id=19015628


25 posted on 04/22/2013 11:14:59 AM PDT by Lacey
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To: RummyChick

Is this the same killer that lamented he had ‘no American friends’?

Liberals were getting all teary about that one... so now it turns out he DID have one American friend and he killed him?

Awful, but it’s funny thinking of all the liberal ‘journalists’ so ready to feel sorry for him... no friends? Boo hoo...Oh, he killed the one friend? Ahhh, ummm, ummm, it’s the FBI’s fault... ummm or the right wing... or ...


26 posted on 04/22/2013 11:19:06 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; Sacajaweau
Sept 11, 2012
27 posted on 04/22/2013 11:21:29 AM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

You’re quite right.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 11:23:39 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: righttackle44

“Hang on, guys. The source is the Daily Mail? Proceed with caution.”

Are you kidding? Here in the USASSR they are the best source of information we have!


29 posted on 04/22/2013 11:24:51 AM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: righttackle44

I trust the Daily Mail, heck I’d even trust Pravda before I’d believe our media.


30 posted on 04/22/2013 11:25:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Straight Vermonter
How does someone manage to kill THREE people with a knife without someone getting away? Either the guy was a ninja or the victims had to be sleeping.

Or stoned/drunk/drugged.

31 posted on 04/22/2013 11:31:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: palmer
Or something close. The bomber's handlers needed ways to control him. Killing someone's best friend is like having him wake up next to his horse's head. Also the handlers could keep the case hanging open as blackmail.

It's standard in criminal organizations that, in order to be admitted into the inner circle you have to commit murder (or some other serious crime). It weeds out undercover cops. It means that you cannot safely testify against any mob member without your own crimes being exposed.

I lean towards this being an initiation rite. Particularly since at least two of the victims were Jewish.

32 posted on 04/22/2013 11:46:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

The reason for my speculation (pure speculation) is that the bomber was already long in the inner circle (Islam). He had no other higher calling than to the Jihad thing, not join some gang to be cool, even a Jihad gang. OTOH the Saudi and Chechen moneymen had good reason to want him (a mostly white guy).


33 posted on 04/22/2013 12:00:10 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: thouworm

a year off I was. Only seven months as a US citizen and he turns on us.


34 posted on 04/22/2013 12:02:45 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Amberdawn

I figured Weissman was Jewish so this make two. That’s reason enough for a muzzy to slit their throats. Then he killed is best and only friend to keep him quiet. It’s making more and more sense.


35 posted on 04/22/2013 12:35:56 PM PDT by bgill
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To: RummyChick

what happens when intelligence people are so obsessed with waiting for the little fish to lead them to the big fish

the little fish go out and do what they trained to do

if our intelligence people knew ANYTHING about these guys, then they needed to be on them like white on rice to prevent them from doing anything, whether they led them to anyone else before that or not


36 posted on 04/22/2013 12:51:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: bgill

You may be right. I also wonder if the dead scum terrorist was making money by selling pot, like Mess reportedly was, to help finance his lifestyle.


37 posted on 04/22/2013 1:37:02 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: penelopesire; 1_Rain_Drop; Sacajaweau
Penelopsire: FYI ping --- We need a timeline on the brothers that includes father and mother for the last 4-5 years! I am especially curious when father, and then mother, returned to Dagistan.

No evidence that Tamerlan committed these murders, but it is odd he didn't attend his "only friend's" memorial or funeral services. After then he also stopped hanging around the gym where he and his friend worked out. Tamerlan also quit boxing in 2011.

There are many photos at article link, including those of the three men whose throats were slit on Sept 12, 2011: Brendan Mess (friend), Raphael Teken, and Erik Weissman.

According to this report:

Early 2011--[I read Jan 2011, but I don't have a link for that source], Russia asks the FBI to look at Tsarnaev's activities, a senior U.S. official said."The request stated that it was based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country's region to join unspecified underground groups," the FBI said in a statement.

[Was Tamerlan preparing to take a trip to Dagistan in 2011 and then didn't go? The Russians knew THAT much about him? Was his father already in Dagastan by then or did he leave shortly after? The only dates that I can find is that father has been in Russia for "a couple years."]

Summer 2011---After interviewing Tsarnaev and family members, the FBI says it "did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government."

Lastly, it might be noteworthy that Tamerlan left for Dagistan a few months later for 6 months (Jan 12 - July 17, 2012).

Mother's arrest -- June 13, 2012
report from the Natick Police

[When did mother go to Dagistan? I searched and searched, but can't find a date.]

September 5, 2012 --- Tsarnaev presents an application for U.S. citizenship, according to the New York Times. The application prompted "additional investigation" of him in 2013 by federal law enforcement agencies, officials told the newspaper. The officials declined to say how far that examination had progressed or what it covered, the New York Times said. Source

Sept 12, 2012 --- Murder of his "only friend," Brendan Mess

Rain_Drop and Sacajaweau --- you may have been off a year, but maybe not on your hunch. Look at this other "coincidence" between Sept 5, 2012 and Sept 12, 2012.

38 posted on 04/22/2013 2:13:51 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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To: thouworm

I think the blog of the girl who received facials from the mom may have mentioned about the mom’s trip. I have to find the link.


39 posted on 04/22/2013 3:31:40 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

She said she stopped seeing mother Dec 2011/Jan 2012, but she also said mother took long trip to Russia in 2011-2012, IIRC.

I wish she could have been more specific.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/20/know-boston-bombers/


40 posted on 04/22/2013 3:43:34 PM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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