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Senators Quietly Seeking New Path on Gun Control
NY Times ^ | Apr. 25, 2013 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 04/26/2013 6:52:08 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

Talks to revive gun control legislation are quietly under way on Capitol Hill as a bipartisan group of senators seeks a way to bridge the differences that led to last week’s collapse of the most serious effort to overhaul the country’s gun laws in 20 years.

Drawing on the lessons from battles in the 1980s and ’90s over the Brady Bill, which failed in Congress several times before ultimately passing, gun control supporters believe they can prevail by working on a two-pronged strategy. First, they are identifying senators who might be willing to change their votes and support a background check system with fewer loopholes.

Second, they are looking to build a national campaign that would better harness overwhelming public support for universal background checks — which many national polls put at near 90 percent approval — to pressure lawmakers.

Senators Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, and Patrick J. Toomey, Republican of Pennsylvania, have been talking in recent days about how they could persuade more senators to support their bill to expand background checks for gun buyers, which drew backing from only four Republicans last week.

“We’re going to work it hard,” Mr. Manchin said Thursday, adding that he was looking at tweaking the language of his bill in a way that he believed would satisfy senators who, for example, felt that background checks on person-to-person gun sales would be too onerous for people who live in rural areas far from a sporting goods store.

Those concerns were an issue for Alaska’s senators, Lisa Murkowski, a Republican, and Mark Begich, a Democrat.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; congress; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guncontrol; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: EXCH54FE

I can’t say what I’m thinking, but I’m thinking it.


41 posted on 04/26/2013 9:56:26 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: EXCH54FE; Travis McGee; All

You know, this is kinda funny...Where they are trying to work quietly to move forward with their un-Constitutional agenda...

I believe we can be very public about ours...

I say the more they mess with this issue the more incumbents we throw on the trash heap, show them the street...

Because either way, whatever they decide to do to more forward, their future is dependednt upon them finally getting the idea that they just need to leave this issue alone...Those that just cant leave it alone...Well...Ya know...

BTW, Matt...That collage of pics is truely disturbing...I would kinda have a problem with someone, anyone pointing a rifle at me in that manner, if I was in my home not doing anything illegal...


42 posted on 04/26/2013 9:56:33 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Mouton

From where I’m sitting you have a problem. Why are you asking for a license when you know that begging isn’t the solution?


43 posted on 04/26/2013 10:04:30 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

if our side had any brains we’d go on offense big time and roll back what’s out there now.

but our rino leadership doesn’t mind it’s there. if there isn’t huge reward for them they won’t do it.


44 posted on 04/26/2013 10:05:33 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Travis McGee

I work a few blocks from where the jihadi was hiding in a boat. I would point out that the boat was beyond the original police perimeter set up where they were going house to house terrorizing Citizens.


45 posted on 04/26/2013 10:07:08 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: Travis McGee

A succinct explanation is to why most science fiction is cautionary. If you don’t read scifi, you are completely unprepared for near-future events.


46 posted on 04/26/2013 10:40:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: EXCH54FE
Dump Congress - 2014!
47 posted on 04/26/2013 11:16:02 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: longtermmemmory

How about the Fed and judges READING the f*cking 2nd Amendment language.

If need be, bring in a basic English major to show the dip-shits how to diagram a sentence and Webster to help define the words in the phrase ‘shall not be infringed’

Enough w/ the licenses, that’s ALREADY and infringement. Wanna know how? Apply the same to voting (a NON-Right)....and hear the laments of the Left.


48 posted on 04/26/2013 11:23:51 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Oh come on, really? I heard yesterday—very definitively by the lib broadcaster— that the founders added the second amendment “so that they could chase down slaves who escaped.”

I think the guy in the next car could hear my LOveryL!


49 posted on 04/26/2013 1:36:17 PM PDT by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: EXCH54FE

which many national polls put at near 90 percent approval — to pressure lawmakers.

Still pushing that tired meme.


50 posted on 04/26/2013 2:38:14 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Ms. Ayotte said Thursday that she would continue talking with Ms. Gillibrand and was confident that some areas of agreement, on areas like expanding mental health care, could be reached.

“There’s a lot we have agreement on in terms of enforcing our current system,” she said. “And so I certainly think we should look for the common elements, including the mental health piece, which I support as well, and try to move as much of that as possible forward.”

That's what the NRA wanted. I'll be shocked if the civil libertarians on the left vote to violate the civil rights of diagnosed, serious nut jobs. The usual excuse is that would cause nuts not to seek help.

51 posted on 04/26/2013 7:58:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Jim Noble; mvpel; Durus; billorites; BitWielder1; woodbutcher1963; MSF BU; lucky american; ...
Ms. Ayotte — the only one out of 22 senators on the East Coast north of Virginia who voted against strengthening background checks — has been the target lately of some of the most furious lobbying by gun control proponents, who have inundated local newspapers with letters to the editor denouncing her vote, run radio ads saying she “ignored the will of the people” and swamped her office with phone calls. On Thursday, two receptionists placed one call after another on hold as they politely listened to callers vent and replied, “Thank you for your message.”

BANG! Does anybody have a ping list for your state besides the rather modest one that I have? I want to ping that person for stories like this.

52 posted on 04/26/2013 8:40:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: SW6906

My retort is: why can’t we do this for voters too?

Why can’t we verify who is legally allowed to vote, and for whom did they vote. End the Australian Ballot.

Make our votes public record.

Ouderkirk voted against the school budget, voted against Schumer, Cuomo etc.


53 posted on 04/27/2013 4:08:04 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (The Government is actively preparing to go to War with a significant portion of its own Citizens.)
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