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The big-government/big-corporate criminal complex lives up to its name.
1 posted on 04/28/2013 2:13:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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Does the Army say no more tanks or does Obama’s people say no more tanks - always a question these days


2 posted on 04/28/2013 2:15:45 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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The army isn't saying anything. The servants of the regime, ie the political appointees and politicized officers are. Nothing the Obama guardians say can be taken at face value.

Or do you thing we can get away with fewer carriers, women in combat, and fewer jets without harm?

3 posted on 04/28/2013 2:20:09 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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Congress knows what they’re doing here... there may or may not be another big foreign tank battle in our immediate future, but these tanks will also be quite handy for putting down Christian insurrection in rural areas of the US. ;-)


4 posted on 04/28/2013 2:21:09 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Another corruption exposed while Nero fiddles and the people Facebook and Tweet.


6 posted on 04/28/2013 2:23:49 PM PDT by Spok
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima_Army_Tank_Plant

Problem is we are down to a single plant that can produce M1 tanks. Stop production and the ability to make tanks rapidly deteriorates.


8 posted on 04/28/2013 2:29:14 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I can think of three machines which have totally dominated the battlefield for 30 years. Maybe longer than that.

The M1 Abrams, the F-15 and the Warthog. They are all getting pretty old. I wonder if their successors will be as good.


10 posted on 04/28/2013 2:38:18 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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The problem with a large army of tanks is that they are stuck here without the large navy to transport them to other continents.

So, how's the Navy doing these days?

-PJ

19 posted on 04/28/2013 3:22:13 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Cut government spending. Everywhere. Well, everywhere except where “I” want it.

It’s all crap. Are we still planning on sending them to the Fulda gap?


20 posted on 04/28/2013 3:27:04 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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The Army say's no, but, all those extra Light and Heavy Armored vehicles
are being deployed here in our streets. So, What are the plans for those extra Tanks?

If anybody thinks I'm some crazy loon conspiracy nut, take a look around the news
and do your own due diligence.

23 posted on 04/28/2013 3:58:47 PM PDT by MaxMax
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In all fairness, tanks have entered the realm of ‘permanent component’ for a modern military. Importantly, this doesn’t mean in their current form, it means in their principle.

To explain, the world changed with Napoleon Bonaparte, because he used his units much like chess pieces. Engineers, artillery, infantry, light cavalry, heavy cavalry, with their movements much as how their pieces move on the chess board.

The Russians, and later the Soviet Union noted that every type of unit that Napoleon used had a modern, technologically more advanced equivalent. In the case of heavy cavalry, they used both tanks and heavy armored helicopters in that role. Even chemical and nuclear weapons did not change this theory.

The US, however, is more fixated on the technology involved instead of its use. And in truth, there is so much technology today devoted to killing tanks that much of their tactical abilities are reduced. But that is only true technologically.

That is, the role of the tank on the battlefield, as heavy cavalry, still exists.

The US has tried to blend light and heavy cavalry together in the form of the Stryker armored vehicle. But this is a risky gambit.

Yet, the die is pretty much cast. So now it is up to the weapons designers to develop a better mousetrap. And I would not be surprised if it was a tank, reborn, to once again fill that particular role on the battlefield.


24 posted on 04/28/2013 4:00:55 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Enough emphasis on pork. Tanks aren’t invincible, and they do cost a lot in several ways (e.g., transportation). The Army knows what it’s talking about in this case and doesn’t have any extraneous motives.


27 posted on 04/28/2013 4:14:55 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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Cuts are important, but not if they are in my district. Like Pogo said, “ we have met the enemy and he is us.” The problem is just who do you believe. The perfumed princes in the upper echelons of the military or the congressputzes.
28 posted on 04/28/2013 4:18:47 PM PDT by vette6387
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Cuts are important, but not if they are in my district. Like Pogo said, “ we have met the enemy and he is us.” The problem is just who do you wan to believe. The perfumed princes in the upper echelons of the military or the congressputzes.
29 posted on 04/28/2013 4:19:26 PM PDT by vette6387
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GPS/laser guided bombs/rockets/missiles and anti-tank aircraft are much more efficient in doing the missions formerly done by tanks, which was primarily taking out other tanks.

These newer weapons are to tanks what aircraft carriers were to battleships.


44 posted on 04/28/2013 6:49:26 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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This is why government spending will never decrease. Defense contractors (and others feeding at the taxpayer trough) have cleverly put facilities in most states, often in small towns, to make their projects impervious to cuts. As soon as the military says it doesn’t want something, the politicians from those areas insist that whatever it is, is vital.

Lockheed Martin, as one example, sells the government the most expensive, useless crap, and the politicians make sure the party never ends.


50 posted on 04/28/2013 8:59:52 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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