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Founders Quote - Mason on Senators
Patriot Post ^ | 1788 | George Mason

Posted on 05/01/2013 4:22:59 AM PDT by Loud Mime

"Those gentlemen, who will be elected senators, will fix themselves in the federal town, and become citizens of that town more than of your state."

--George Mason, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788


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To: Resettozero
Delegates to the Confederation Congress had three years on/three years off term limits. That the Framers rejected term limits was unfortunate.

The quality of State legislators would increase if they were responsible for the Senators they appointed. That's what the Lincoln/Douglas debates were about. State legislators had to be up and knowledgeable of national affairs. A dolt for State Assembly who could not intelligently discuss slavery, imposts as well as State issues didn't have a chance.

As for repeal, I'd appreciate your feedback to:

Repeal the 17th Amendment to Restore the 10th.

21 posted on 05/01/2013 10:11:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Loud Mime
Well there ARE a lot more rights than are enumerated. What there are NOT are more government powers than are enumerated.

Many who argued against a Bill of Rights claimed that many would say an enumeration of rights would give many the impression that American citizens had ONLY those enumerated rights. That is why they wrote the 9th Amendment....

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

22 posted on 05/01/2013 10:11:21 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Loud Mime

You and I may be two of the very few at FR without a hate-on for AH.


23 posted on 05/01/2013 10:19:27 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: allmendream

I must know, what is the title?


24 posted on 05/01/2013 10:22:08 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

“James Madison and the struggle for the Bill of Rights” by Richard Labunski


25 posted on 05/01/2013 10:28:06 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Thanks. Its in my Amazon shopping cart.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 10:55:04 AM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

I hope you enjoy it as much as I am enjoying it.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 11:13:42 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Jacquerie

I believe you are correct. I hear lots of people hating Hamilton, but firmly believe that the emotion is a result of limited studies.

We have to give credit where credit is due. Look at how the different views of the founders resulted in a wonderful government. Hamilton was dead-on right in some ideas, not in others. Hatred should find no quarter when all is considered.

Right now I’m reading about the strange actions of Madison, who seems to be above reproach.

Fascinating stuff; too bad we can’t manage what they gave us.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 11:19:46 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: Jacquerie

About your About page: I’m re-studying the third item from the top to see if I agree. The third item from the bottom, we agree if you change the comma to a period and strike the rest of the sentence. Every other point seems spot on.


29 posted on 05/01/2013 11:22:21 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Well, if the points I made were MLB hits, my batting average would be awesome.


30 posted on 05/01/2013 12:50:17 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Even for T-ball! But it’s ME and not someone who REALLY KNOWS that is agreeing with your points. THAT should humble you, Slugger.


31 posted on 05/01/2013 12:59:55 PM PDT by Resettozero
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. . . too bad we can’t manage what they gave us.

Following are the words of David Robertson, the unofficial copyist of the Virginia Ratification Debates.

"Every speech breathes the spirit of a freeman, and should the following record descend to an enslaved posterity, every page will become a monument of the political purity of their fathers, and of their own disgraceful degeneracy. Should the footsteps of a tyrant hereafter contaminate the soil of our country, the Debates of the Virginia Convention will probably be among the earliest victims of a suspicious proscription."

32 posted on 05/01/2013 1:13:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Resettozero

Roger that. Duly humbled.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 1:19:43 PM PDT by Jacquerie (How few were left who had seen the republic! - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Okay. Alright then. WAIT...

(what did I say?)


34 posted on 05/01/2013 1:24:36 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Jacquerie

Wow. Great Quote!

It really does not take too much study to understand how the best governments can be perverted by man.

What amazes me is how today’s public keeps themselves in the dark.


35 posted on 05/01/2013 4:06:47 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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