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1 posted on 05/04/2013 10:54:23 AM PDT by Innovative
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2 posted on 05/04/2013 10:55:16 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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Ping-—Sharyl Attkisson


3 posted on 05/04/2013 10:58:33 AM PDT by thouworm (DEMOGOGUE: leader who makes use of prejudices, false claims and promises to gain power.)
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suspected drug cartel suppliers carrying boxes of weapons to their cars

They must have passed their background checks with flying colors. [/s]


4 posted on 05/04/2013 10:58:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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6 posted on 05/04/2013 11:02:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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“The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel.”

No, the idea was to load up Mexico with guns that originated in the US so that Obastard could use it as an excuse for tighter gun control.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 11:02:59 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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March 3, 2011 6:10 PM

That was a long time ago.


9 posted on 05/04/2013 11:04:18 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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This disgusting and corrupt regime has a hell of a lot to answer for.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 11:07:02 AM PDT by madmominct
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The thing that REALLY ticks me off about this Fast and Furious deal is that, the Kenyan and Holder set up the Fast and Furious fiasco to set the stage for exactly what the Kenyan did in Mexico the other day. Blame all of the killings in Mexico on OUR Second Amendment. This whole regime is hateful and despicable. Very anti-American. So how did America get this point? Politicians offering free handouts for votes.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 11:07:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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Brian Terry was murdered a long time ago. What difference does it make?

Most Americans think “Fast and Furious” was the name of an old Clint Eastwood spaghetti western.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 11:13:40 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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This is orders-of-magnitude worse than Watergate.


20 posted on 05/04/2013 11:18:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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The idea was to see where the guns ended up, build a big case and take down a cartel.

Exactly which cartel did they take down?

21 posted on 05/04/2013 11:24:39 AM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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Dated, but still a great reminder of who it was that caused (according to Obama) all the Mexican gun violence.


22 posted on 05/04/2013 11:24:52 AM PDT by Hoodat (I stand with Rand.)
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It feels like a sting that morphed into corruption - just old fashioned selling guns to Mexican Drug Cartels... I’d like to know where the money went...

Government bought guns with taxpayer dollars.

Sold to Mexican Drug dealers

Where’s the cash?


23 posted on 05/04/2013 11:29:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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At the time, my memory is that Holder was encouraging the Mexican government to file suit against the big name gun manufacturers. Law firms were salivating for their piece of the multi-billion-dollar settlements that would result.

The beauty of it was classic Obama and classic Soros. They would get the result they desired but the visible fingerprints would not be theirs.

It blew up when Brian Terry was killed.


24 posted on 05/04/2013 11:31:10 AM PDT by marron
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If Ojango was concerned about guns heading to Mexico he would stop selling them to the Cartels and enforce border control.


25 posted on 05/04/2013 11:33:17 AM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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Agent Dodson and other sources say the gun walking strategy was approved all the way up to the Justice Department.

There it is. Obama/Holder are the masterminds.

27 posted on 05/04/2013 11:35:46 AM PDT by Red Steel
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I’m sure the mainstream media will get around to covering this story, eventually, but of course they have more urgent stories that take precedence. They don’t want us to miss the details of Lindsey Lohan checking into the Betty Ford Clinic.


28 posted on 05/04/2013 11:47:52 AM PDT by Colinsky
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Remember when there were MANY journalists who genuinely questioned the government, like this Atkisson...?

She’s a freak hero now, but her type USED 2b common.

Oh well, more for Drudge and us, I guess.

DOING WHAT COLUMBIA J-SCHOOL **USED** TO DO.


34 posted on 05/04/2013 12:45:28 PM PDT by gaijin
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OkBomb, Abridged:

The Berlin Wall came down and the USA was concerned about nuke materials getting loose. Meanwhile Germany was concerned about groups able to publish huge volumes of materials illegal under Germany law but legal in the USA. This set the stage for US/Germany intel collection synergy, and Germany provided an agent, Andreas Strassmeir; Andy would act like a right-wing German nut and infiltrate US extremist groups. In this he was aided by the resources of the SPLC, which had a long history of monitoring hate groups in a program called, “PatCon” for short.

Andy was helped by a US agent, Tim McVeigh, who like Andy had been in the army. They said he tried to become and SF and failed, but only the first part was true; in fact Tim tried out and instead received a much more sensitive assignment —infiltrate US “hate groups”.

But the field is not cut and dry, like training manuals in the Army. The field has people, who are willful and wayward. They suddenly do unforeseen things, like move up a blast timetable, which is what happened:

The US guv had collected lots of data, but a building was in rubble and they suddenly had a tarbaby on it’s hands —as things stood it could be shown they had known of an impending attack but did nothing.

SOUND FAMLIAR..? Let’s read that again: it could be shown they had known of an impending attack but did nothing.

But then they thought some more —Tim’s cover was intact, and he was still in place. They realized they could simply claim Tim was not their agent at all, but was a real extremist; they could make him the sole culprit, and escape a tidal wave of blame that had no land somewhere.

So that’s what they did —they just said it was allllll the bad Tim McVeigh, acting alone, yup.

Sorta like an LA YouTube maker, who is in jail to this day.


38 posted on 05/04/2013 2:04:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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“This happened long ago!”

“What difference does it make?”

“Only a few people were killed!”

“Not as bad as Newtown!”

“Not as bad as Boston!”

“Another reason American should not be allowed to have guns!”

As a public service, just offering some quotes for the media and “progressives” to use to defend those who ordered this crime.


40 posted on 05/04/2013 2:30:40 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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