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The Benghazi Lie - A failure of character of this magnitude corrodes the integrity of the state.
National Review Online ^ | May 10, 2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 05/10/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by neverdem

Shortly before last November’s election I took part in a Fox News documentary on Benghazi, whose other participants included the former governor of New Hampshire John Sununu. Making chit-chat while the camera crew were setting up, Governor Sununu said to me that in his view Benghazi mattered because it was “a question of character.” That’s correct. On a question of foreign policy or counterterrorism strategy, men of good faith can make the wrong decisions. But a failure of character corrodes the integrity of the state...

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But, at the time Deputy Chief Hicks was calling 9-1-1 and getting executive-branch voicemail, nobody in Washington knew how long it would last. A terrorist attack isn’t like a soccer game, over in 90 minutes. If it is a sport, it’s more like a tennis match: Whether it’s all over in three sets or goes to five depends on how hard the other guy pushes back. The government of the United States took the extremely strange decision to lose in straight sets\...

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Where’s the “partisan politics”? Obama, Clinton, Panetta, Clapper, Rice, and the rest did this to one of their own. And fawning court eunuchs, like the ranking Democrat at the hearings, Elijah Cummings, must surely know that, if they needed, they’d do it to them, too. If you believe in politics über alles, it’s impressive, in the same way that Hillary’s cocksure dismissal — “What difference, at this point, does it make?” — is impressive.

But the embassy security chief, Eric Nordstrom, had the best answer to that: It matters because “the truth matters” — not least to the Libyan president, who ever since has held the U.S. government in utter contempt. Truth matters, and character matters. For the American people to accept the Obama-Clinton lie is to be complicit in it.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; hillary; libya; obama; waronterror
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1 posted on 05/10/2013 3:22:09 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: JLS

Steyn Ping!


2 posted on 05/10/2013 3:24:01 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

especially balless barry


3 posted on 05/10/2013 3:25:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred ( barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: neverdem
The Benghazi Lie - A failure of character of this magnitude corrodes the integrity of the state.

Not at all. The state has no integrity, because it concentrates too much power in the hands of too few people, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

4 posted on 05/10/2013 3:25:59 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Maceman
my question to all this is ....to what end?....why did this happen?...was simply incompetence?...reluctance for bammy the boy to act?....afraid of p*ssing off his keepers?...his muzzie friends?...

why?...

God forbide, was it a planned event on the bammy's part?

5 posted on 05/10/2013 3:29:12 PM PDT by cherry
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To: neverdem

May 10, 2013 - Interview Podcast: Victoria Toensing, attorney for Gregory Hicks with Melody Burnes (host) on Talk 1300.

Queue the podcast below at 37:15 minutes:

http://www.talk1300.com/CMT/podcast/may102013part3mb.mp3


6 posted on 05/10/2013 3:30:04 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: neverdem
"The government dispatched more firepower to arrest Nakoula Basseley Nakoula in Los Angeles than it did to protect its mission in Benghazi."
7 posted on 05/10/2013 3:32:41 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (3 guns when you only have one arm? "I just don't want to get killed for lack of shooting back")
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To: cherry

“Broken Arrow”.

This stinks, stinks,stinks, and they can’t put it back into the bottle. Not even the media.

Talking to a young European today and they have not heard of this Benghazi. But this stink just won’t go away.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 3:36:36 PM PDT by deep trout
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To: Fitzy_888

Thanks for the link!


9 posted on 05/10/2013 3:37:16 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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10 posted on 05/10/2013 3:38:55 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

Integrity is that a word that is still appicable to the US Government? R or D I have no trust in any politician on the Hill! How bout Cheat, Lie, and Steal from the American People!


11 posted on 05/10/2013 3:45:21 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: neverdem
Corroding the American state is what Obama is all about. Hanging employees and troops out to die is typical for Obama and no one, including his allies, should think that he wouldn't sacrifice them as well if it suited his purposes.
12 posted on 05/10/2013 3:46:14 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: neverdem

News Media has egg all over their faces. Are Obama and Hillary playing the Game of Thrones? The Media sits back afraid to see their own shadow!


13 posted on 05/10/2013 3:51:03 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: zot; Interesting Times

Hillary wasn’t ready for her 3am phone call.


14 posted on 05/10/2013 3:51:45 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Conserev1

Try Senator’s Cruz, Lee and Sessions.

I think they have integrity.


15 posted on 05/10/2013 3:57:36 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: neverdem
I completely agree with Steyn, but there is another issue people are overlooking.

Since the administration is lying and covering up the true nature of the attack, the terrorists know they are not being looked for and there will be no retaliation. And all terrorists see the US again reacting weakly to terrorism in the pre-911 mode.

It is important to remember 9-11 was preceded by a series of increasingly serious terror attacks, not least of which were the attacks on the Africa Embassies. Newly supplied out of Libyan stocks, Al Qaeda today is metastasizing across Northern Africa and Obama is refusing to take action because it would admit he lied about Benghazi.

Yes, Hillary, it DOES matter to the security of the United States.

16 posted on 05/10/2013 3:59:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: deep trout

Talking to a young European today and they have not heard of this Benghazi.
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Your Euro contact must live in a bubble. Below are links found within a few seconds for Daily Mail, Independent Online, Guardian and BBC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2322660/The-Obama-
administrations-State-Department-direct-hand-revising-official-story-2012-Benghazi-terror-attack-new-documents-show.html

http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/state-dept-toned-down-benghazi-memos-1.1514135

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22486332

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/10/white-house-criticism-benghazi-leak


17 posted on 05/10/2013 3:59:48 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: onyx

Show me the Money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 05/10/2013 4:00:30 PM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: neverdem

I wonder if Michelle is still “proud of her country”...


19 posted on 05/10/2013 4:01:40 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Maceman

Indeed, especially when outright statists are in charge and are reigning with maniacal joy and attack the defenders of traditional America with a bloodlust.

The communist/socialist acts of tyranny that these despots have implemented with delighted agitation has destroyed the integrity of the offices they hold.

I fear it will be many years, if ever, before integrity is returned by those who celebrate limited power.


20 posted on 05/10/2013 4:03:52 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: FreedBird

Or as Greg Gutfield said: “The media is Obama’s scandal condom”.


21 posted on 05/10/2013 4:04:03 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Conserev1

Of course it’s applicable. A country doesn’t survive without it. It’s a matter of Natural Law, it cannot be avoided, regardless of the public opinion, or, in this case, mob rule.

It’s why this story is never going to go away. he can wag the dog and pony show, but it will come back again.

And this story bears the truth and the example of just why people of character don’t want him in power- it’s politics but no it’s way beyond politics.

Actually, It SHOWS Why integrity can’t be just a matter of style and phase.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 4:07:44 PM PDT by stanne
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Where are the hero’s in the media? They all seem like a bunch of useless hacks for Obama. Some of those so called journalists look like stupid clowns.


23 posted on 05/10/2013 4:08:50 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: FreedBird
They are too busy vying for, instead of reporting real news:
24 posted on 05/10/2013 4:12:26 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

The average person is too busy watching sports or being entertained to devote time to the news. Some people even believe Ben Ghazi is some kind of t.v. show for entertainment.


25 posted on 05/10/2013 4:16:10 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: cherry

They have to cover up the fact they were running guns from libya to turkey to syria for Jihadists to topple assad.
If you can check out this mornings Fox and Friends,of all people Geraldo Rivera lays it out for you


26 posted on 05/10/2013 4:17:29 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: okie01

LOL!


27 posted on 05/10/2013 4:24:59 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

“If Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me,” Obama said, adding: “When they go after the U.N. ambassador apparently because they think she’s an easy target, then they’ve got a problem with me.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/14/obama-challenges-republicans-hammering-rice-on-libya-to-go-after-me/#ixzz2SuhNkSPh

OK, Mr. President. Will do.


28 posted on 05/10/2013 4:25:41 PM PDT by 02slider
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


29 posted on 05/10/2013 4:26:26 PM PDT by nutmeg (Rest in Peace, FReeper Extraordinaire Doctor Raoul...)
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To: neverdem

Excellent.


30 posted on 05/10/2013 4:29:37 PM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (" Undecided Voter: someone who parades their stupidity as proof of their morality." ~David Burge)
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To: FreedBird

I agree with you, so I am VERY proud to say that my 21 year old daughter listens to conservative talk radio and goes to bed at night listening to The Blaze on her smart phone.

And she isn’t shy about telling her friends what they aren’t hearing.


31 posted on 05/10/2013 4:31:01 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: FreedBird

And what the average person defines as news is more inline with conspicuous consumption or fast food sound bites, i.e. it must come from Dr OZ or Judge Judy, then require the individual to do some reading and reseach, to sort the feel good propaganda from hard facts they may not like.


32 posted on 05/10/2013 4:31:40 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: deep trout

Maybe the Clintons will turn on Obama before this is over.
They could send out Carville etc. to get the heat off of Hillary.


33 posted on 05/10/2013 4:32:49 PM PDT by FreedBird
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To: ballplayer

exactly.


34 posted on 05/10/2013 4:32:49 PM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (" Undecided Voter: someone who parades their stupidity as proof of their morality." ~David Burge)
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To: ballplayer

Yes, we know the “what” and the “who.” But what about the “WHY?” Why not allow forces to go in and try to save our people...why abandon them at their greatest hour of need? That’s what I don’t get. WHY?


35 posted on 05/10/2013 4:50:03 PM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: neverdem
And so the entire U.S. military was stood down in support of the commander-in-chief’s fiction...the forgotten man in the hearings seemed to be Mr. Thompson, who was apparently as near as I could figure out like the guy at the 911 desk in your local government - have a fire, have an accident and you call 911 and get some sort of assistance right away - in the case of an attack on your embassy, you would get a team of specially trained marines and other military types. But Mr. Thompson testified that he was never called the night of the Benghazi attack - instead his "bureau chief" was called and he never was given the word to go to the rescue - try calling your mayor first to see if he'll given permission for the trucks to roll next time you have a fire........
36 posted on 05/10/2013 4:55:14 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem

the failure of character here is ENORMOUS and absolutely corrosive - what an embarassment to this nation!


37 posted on 05/10/2013 5:02:40 PM PDT by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: colorado tanker
“And all terrorists see the US again reacting weakly to terrorism in the pre-911 mode.”

Just imagine these motivated Islamist Terrorists with just a handful of the MANPADS still missing from Qaddafi's arsenal at their desposal?

As of February, 2012 only 5,000 were identified, recovered and secured. Funny how NYT doesn't report on that.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120202/DEFREG02/302020009/U-S-Still-Hunting-Missing-Libyan-MANPADS

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120412/DEFREG04/304120002/5-000-Libyan-MANPADS-Secured

If anyone has more recent info, I'd appreciated it.

38 posted on 05/10/2013 5:04:19 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama murdered the SEALs.They "were hung out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls,...")
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To: GreyFriar
Hillary wasn’t ready for her 3am phone call.

And neither was the President. I am willing to bet Valerie Jarrett answered the phone and told General Ham to stand down.

39 posted on 05/10/2013 5:05:12 PM PDT by zot
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Kakaze; Tammy8; metmom; Cap Huff; svcw; leapfrog0202; Concho; delacoert; ...

Political ping


40 posted on 05/10/2013 5:06:28 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: FreedBird

“Some people even believe Ben Ghazi is some kind of t.v. show for entertainment.”

All the older folks remember Ben Gazzara! Great movie & TV star!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001262/

/s


41 posted on 05/10/2013 5:14:09 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: Chgogal

Plus, Darna (or Derna), just east of Benghazi has a history of supplying terrorists to Al Qaeda and elements from Egypt's Brotherhood seem to be infiltrating into Libya.

42 posted on 05/10/2013 5:18:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem

That’s been happening for a long time.


43 posted on 05/10/2013 5:20:03 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FreedBird

Maybe the Clintons will turn on Obama before this is over.
They could send out Carville etc. to get the heat off of Hillary.

You mean Serpent Head?


44 posted on 05/10/2013 5:25:32 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (f)
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To: colorado tanker

Al Shabaab has been severely weakened in the last year or so. Kenya invaded from the south and Ethiopia invaded from the west driving them out of several strongholds. The Transitional Federal Government of Somalia has finally gotten off their collective rears and paid their soldiers instead of stealing all the money. With the support of several thousand African Union troops they have broken out of Mogadishu and recaptured extensive territory. Al Shabaab has also lost much funding with the large decrease in piracy in the last couple of years.

Al Qaeda in all its forms is still dangerous but that particular branch has had some setbacks.


45 posted on 05/10/2013 5:29:25 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Glad to hear it . . .


46 posted on 05/10/2013 5:31:01 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: neverdem
This needs to be kept front-of-mind when hearing the DemocRat's talking points about anything regarding Benghazi:

Issues:
1) the State Department had the necessary budget
2) wanted Benghazi to become a permanent consulate
3) it was 1 of only 15 sites out of 300 globally to be rated at the 2 highest levels
4) and MOST DAMNING - ignored multiple formal requests to bring it up to legal standards after multiple, serious security incidents

There are only 15 facilities around the world rated "high" or "critical" - out of almost 300. The Benghazi site was rated "critical" (the highest threat) and needed H.R. Clinton's authorization to operate it while at the officially documented, legally deficient state of security, before the attack.

H.R. Clinton told Stevens, presumably ordered by Obama, that this admin's goal was to make Benghazi a permanent consulate. But, career state department employees were threatened, and demoted, for using official channels to make basic requests for security before the mid-term election.

47 posted on 05/10/2013 5:35:55 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Thanks for the update on Al Shabaab.


48 posted on 05/10/2013 6:02:49 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Pan_Yan

What about the Qaddafi’s missing MANPADS?


49 posted on 05/10/2013 6:23:28 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama murdered the SEALs.They "were hung out to dry, basically exposed like a set of dog balls,...")
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To: 02slider
"To infer we would play politics with the death of 4 Americans is insulting"....

We knew from the beginning, but having it laid out here all so plain to see is the ultimate downer. Add the IRS targeting types like us.

He is a POS. That's "Piece. Of. Shit."

There is not a genuine bone in his body, nor an honest syllable out of his mouth. I would love to ask him if he sleeps well. Same question to Jay Carney.

They sacrificed trusted American lives for a few votes. POS ! Is it illegal to spit in his face?

50 posted on 05/10/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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