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Could assets have reached Benghazi in time to save lives? [Ret. Lt Gen Boykin-Huckabee]]
Huckabee with Mike Huckabee ^ | May 12, 2013 | Ret. Lt Gen Jerry Boykin

Posted on 05/13/2013 1:43:09 AM PDT by Yosemitest


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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bokin; navyseals; obama; threatmatrix; treason
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I highly recommend you watch this 10 minute 56 second video interview, and the questions and answers.
Nobody knows more about Special Operations than Three Star General Jerry Boykin, Ret.
1 posted on 05/13/2013 1:43:10 AM PDT by Yosemitest
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To: All
Read and watch the 2 minute 28 second vioedo here U.S. military poised for rescue in Benghazi.
2 posted on 05/13/2013 2:13:51 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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The problem with the administration’s scenario...is that we are watching from hindsight now. At the moment when the ambassador was begging for help....it could have been an hour left for his life, or six hours. By doing nothing, they were saying that nothing in terms of time mattered. If this is the case....it’s best to admit they really didn’t care much for the situation or the ambassador’s life.


3 posted on 05/13/2013 2:34:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
Videos of interest.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


4 posted on 05/13/2013 2:35:28 AM PDT by MestaMachine
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To: Yosemitest
Here's one more item to watch.
Start at around 8 minutes 45 seconds and watch CIA's Petraeus Falls on his sword, Bob Gates, DoD, Clinton, Libya Benghazi Link, Arab News published on Nov 11, 2012.
It covers the military bases available to respond to the Benghazi disaster.
5 posted on 05/13/2013 2:35:59 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: pepsionice
Look, I've got over 26 years of experience in Air Traffic Control Towers in the USAF.
Most military bases have fighter aircraft standing alert in a hanger next to the runway, and can be airborne within 3 minutes from the time the alert phone rings.
For mored on the technology and the tactics of military overseas scrambles read this comment on another thread.
Read the history ofAviano Air Base, Italy.
Also read the transcript at the bottom of the article US Diplomat Reignites Benghazi Controversy.
6 posted on 05/13/2013 2:57:52 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

It looks like CBS doing its normal obfuscation duty. Notice Clinton’s response is to the FB posting, evading a fact that was known at the time she made this statement. What does CBS say to that? There are “thousands” of emails to go through and they too evade any effort to disclose the truth.


7 posted on 05/13/2013 3:01:28 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Yosemitest

This question is almost irrelevant! Why are we wasting time with questions given what WE KNOW? Hillary lied. It ain’t a “witch hunt”, we HAVE FOUND THE WITCH!


8 posted on 05/13/2013 3:12:27 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: pepsionice
Where Gregory Hicks, the deputy chief of mission for the U.S. in Libya, said: I believe Defense Attache, Lieutenant Colonel Keith Phillips, LIED to Gregory Hicks.
Whether Col Phillips waqs ordered to lie, or not, I don't know.
I do know that it only takes 3 minutes to get the "ALERT AIRCRAFT" airborne, and that the tankers (probably out of Turkey) could have met the fighter aircraft over the Mediterranean Sea.
Had the orders been given to SCRAMBLE, I believe from many years of military experience, that they could have been over Benghazi within a maximum of 2 hours, at most.
9 posted on 05/13/2013 3:15:03 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: wastoute
Hillary is taking the fall for the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.
Obama is the ONLY ONE WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE A "STAND DOWN" ODER.
10 posted on 05/13/2013 3:17:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: wastoute
Hillary is taking the fall for the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.
Obama is the ONLY ONE WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE A "STAND DOWN" ORDER.
11 posted on 05/13/2013 3:17:34 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
Your conclusions seem perfectly reasonable. Out of curiosity, I checked the air-miles from Tripoli to Benghazi and it is 406 miles. If I understand correctly, a C-130 was ready to take off when the special ops folks were told to stand down. Again, if my research is correct, a C-130 has a cruising speed of 374 MPH. It would appear that two hours would have been enough time to bring air and ground assets together in Benghazi. The cover-up goes on!
12 posted on 05/13/2013 3:54:02 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Yosemitest

If Hillary is taking the fall for Obama it is she who decided to take it. We all know she won’t take hat fall alone.

Obama was told of the incident, he told others to take care of it and went to bed.

There is plenty of blame to go around. There are numerous leaders in on this mess that need to be replaced—starting at the top with impeachment.


13 posted on 05/13/2013 3:57:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: trubolotta

The man running cbs news is the brother of a HIGH RANKING OBAMA OFFICIAL.

LLS


14 posted on 05/13/2013 4:08:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: trubolotta
I wasn't so much thinking of the AC-130, as much as I was thinking of a fighter jet (with wing fuel tanks) capable of being there in 1 1/2 hours, but needing refueling in less than 2 hours.
I also figure a refueling tanker, either as KC-120, KC-135, or maybe even a F/A-18F tanker from an aircraft carrier could be scrambled and do the refueling,
but their speed is a little slower than the fighter, so that's why I said 2 hours maximum.
Of course a C-130 could do the refueling, but that might be a speed problem for the fighter.
The AC-130 wouldn't have a fuel burn problem, as it can carry all the fuel it needs for a long mission.
15 posted on 05/13/2013 4:21:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
CORRECTION:
16 posted on 05/13/2013 4:23:37 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Even if you did not arrive in time to save these people at least you would have tried instead of doing nothing. In addition once there even if it was to late to save the ones there you needed to rain down hell on the animals that attacked our Embassy as a warning to the next ones wanting to do so.


17 posted on 05/13/2013 4:30:48 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I agree, with every fiber of my body.


18 posted on 05/13/2013 4:38:56 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: pepsionice
By doing nothing, they were saying that nothing in terms of time mattered.

It is far worse than that. By PREVENTING any possible aid or help he abandoned them during the fight.

Think of what it means. You are fighting for your life. Fighting until help comes....and it does not come. They do not even try. You die in pain, alone, believing ... God help you. No one else will by presidential order.

God please save us from these demons leading America,

19 posted on 05/13/2013 5:06:10 AM PDT by Rapscallion (People died. Obama lied....to win the election and bankrupt the US..)
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To: pepsionice
The problem with the administration’s scenario...is that we are watching from hindsight now. At the moment when the ambassador was begging for help....it could have been an hour left for his life, or six hours. By doing nothing, they were saying that nothing in terms of time mattered.

Your point bears repeating: How did they know how much time was available for a response? --The answer, of course, is they didn't know. They decided not to respond and made up an excuse.

20 posted on 05/13/2013 5:07:09 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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With the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval Office, what do you expect?


21 posted on 05/13/2013 5:13:50 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

22 posted on 05/13/2013 5:36:21 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Yosemitest

I was thinking of the C-130 I understood the Libyans had ready to depart for Benghazi. I leave the refueling details to you since you obviously have experience and expertise in this area.


23 posted on 05/13/2013 5:45:31 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: trubolotta
If I read it right, they did have a C-130 ready to go, and that's when they got the "Stand Down" order.
But if they had issued the SCRAMBLE ORDER when they first got the call for HELP from Amb. Stevens, then they should have arrived within two hours, according to my experience,
and more aircraft would have been coming to assist and should have arrived within another hour.
The military lives to respond to this kind of problem.
And the dead Terrorists would have been a very large number.
But the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF would allow it.
He protected his Muslim Brotherhood, over our U.S. Citizens and our precious military.
24 posted on 05/13/2013 5:56:06 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
CORRECTION: Sometimes I think Satan's demons change my typing into the errors I get.
25 posted on 05/13/2013 5:58:47 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

You have posted, I think, four links to the Huckabee interview with Boykin, but not a single one of them works for me. All I get is the Foxnews.com window with the rotating loading circle in the middle, which never ends.

Since you highly recommend the interview, but it may not be viewable by some of us, could you please post a four or five sentence summary of the main points and the specific importance of the content?


26 posted on 05/13/2013 6:07:00 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Mine works.
Try http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/huckabee/index.html or http://video.foxnews.com/v/2376410757001/could-assets-have-reached-benghazi-in-time-to-save-lives/?playlist_id=86920.

It takes a long time to transcribe almost 11 minutes of video.
27 posted on 05/13/2013 6:19:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest; blam; SoFloFreeper; FlingWingFlyer; 2ndDivisionVet; Old Sarge; All

In a battle, the first thought that a coward has is that the chance of achieving victory is hopeless.

In a battle, the first thought that a warrior has is that the chance of achieving victory is certain.

With the evidence developed so far in the 9-11-12 Benghazi Massacre Coverup Scandal, The Zombie Obamanation is full of cowards.


28 posted on 05/13/2013 6:23:58 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks, I’ll try it.


29 posted on 05/13/2013 6:24:22 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: pepsionice; Yosemitest

I asked the question for a week or so on FB: Where was USS “John C. Stennis position during the Benghazi-Gate and who was its Commander???


30 posted on 05/13/2013 6:30:14 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: MestaMachine

ON, please!!!


31 posted on 05/13/2013 6:32:29 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Yosemitest; pepsionice

I like to know where USS “John C. Stennis” was located during the Benghazi-Gate and WHO was its Commander???


32 posted on 05/13/2013 6:42:42 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Travis McGee; Yosemitest

If and when this is the case (protocol), good reason to figure out WHY Admiral Gaouette was removed from his command immediately like General Carter Ham. Then the liar-in-chief conveniently left to his bedroom, and not to be reach, leaving Panetta in and Dempsey in total limbo!!!


33 posted on 05/13/2013 6:53:51 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Travis McGee; Yosemitest

If and when this is the case (protocol), good reason to figure out WHY Admiral Gaouette was removed from his command immediately like General Carter Ham. Then the liar-in-chief conveniently left to his bedroom, and not to be reach, leaving Panetta in and Dempsey in total limbo???

This was a war act against U.S.’s property, you don’t ask anyone for permission, you go there as fast as possible for rescue and answer questions later!!!


34 posted on 05/13/2013 6:57:33 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Yosemitest

bump to the top


35 posted on 05/13/2013 6:58:30 AM PDT by GOPJ ( A gang rape by Eight isn't 'immigration reform'... Send the millions of illegals home.)
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To: Travis McGee; Yosemitest

Also remember Panetta and Dempsey have said they go to U.N. before CONgress???


36 posted on 05/13/2013 6:59:48 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

There was an admiral in the med that was subsequently relieved of command...


37 posted on 05/13/2013 7:31:29 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Yosemitest

President Clinton in 2016 with President Clinton as First Gentleman. (Another co-presidency)

Benghazi will be the fault of circumstances and the administration of George Bush and every other Republican administration since the beginning of time.

The MSM will find a way to spin the issues and maintain the loyalty of the fourty-seven percent with the objective of increasing the percentage.

Immigration reform will be for “the children” and
Conservatives will take a back seat as mean, evil, vile,
insensitive, gun-loving, bible-thumping, Christian morons who are the only terrorist threat.

(All of the above if Conservatives submit to castration.)

IMHO


38 posted on 05/13/2013 8:47:36 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Yosemitest

bkmk


39 posted on 05/13/2013 9:11:34 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: ripley
My reply to your entire post:


40 posted on 05/13/2013 9:22:12 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Yosemitest
Had the orders been given to SCRAMBLE, I believe from many years of military experience, that they could have been over Benghazi within a maximum of 2 hours, at most.

True.

The problem is, it seems likely there were no aircraft (tankers, AC-130, or fighters) prepped for immediate use or on any sort of ALERT status. It seemed things were "business as usual, ho-hum!". As you know, one does not just jump into a military aircraft, turn the key, and launch without a good deal of preparation and coordination by a number of highly trained people - and none of that happens by accident.

If no air assets were ready - this being the 10th Anniversary of 9/11 and with the entire Middle East aflame - this was a fatal flaw in planning and oversight. Either it is military and political incompetence writ large (that sort of incompetence is not likely within the military community), or it was a deliberate political action taken to not seem "provocative" to our new best buddies, the burgeoning Muslim Brotherhood masters in the region.

The question is, why were we caught "sleeping" when every quick reaction asset in the Mediterranean basin should have been cocked and ready to launch immediately? Intel at all level should have been sounding RED ALERT everywhere all over the Med and in AFRICACOM. Embassies were being attacked all over the Middle East that day.

It's not like nobody knew something serious was going on. Everyone in a position of knowing it, knew it. It was deliberately ignored, and four people died and over thirty more people were left to die in Benghazi for as yet "unknown" reasons.

Somebody needs to swing, and swing high. This was either criminal negligence of the highest order or "giving aid and comfort" to our enemies. In a more sane American period, that used to be known as "treason".

41 posted on 05/13/2013 9:27:30 AM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from a lust for power-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: Gritty
You're telling melike SAC use to do?
42 posted on 05/13/2013 10:16:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Old Sarge

“My reply to your entire post.”

I hope your reply really says you disagree.

(I was describing a nightmare of mine.)

IMHO


43 posted on 05/13/2013 12:36:36 PM PDT by ripley
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To: Cap Huff
I hope you appreciate how long it took me to do this.

I suggest you copy this and save it to a notepad, before it gets deleted.
44 posted on 05/13/2013 1:01:30 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Wow! That is far more than anyone could have hoped for. I really do appreciate the time that must have taken. I’ve tried making short transcripts and I know they are not easy.

I never did get the link to load. It may be my computer, but almost all video links work for me. I also wonder whether it may be because I live outside the U.S. Some web sites don’t allow me to view some content - not many but a once in a while.

Again thanks. That was far above and beyond a freeper’s duty.


45 posted on 05/13/2013 1:09:21 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Right mouse click.
Click source.
Find copy and paste the comment to a notepad and name it what you want.
46 posted on 05/13/2013 1:16:52 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cap Huff
It could be living outside the U.S., or it could be your internet download upload speed.
I use Opera Web Browser.
47 posted on 05/13/2013 1:19:28 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Yes, I saved it and then read it. I’ve been focused more on the before and after attack aspects of the scandal, and I think this is an excellent rundown on the potential “rescue” phase.

I use firefox and have only rarely had video link problems. I just might try opera. I won’t touch IE.


48 posted on 05/13/2013 1:27:55 PM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
You might want to read and copy comment #39 of another thread, if you haven't read it already.
49 posted on 05/13/2013 1:35:27 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ripley

Nightmare? You see through a glass clearly.

As opposed to the pollyana’s of the eGOP, who can’t wait for Lucy to yank the football away once again.


50 posted on 05/13/2013 3:41:59 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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