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IRS chief defends targeting of groups as 'obnoxious,' not illegal
The Hill ^ | 05/17/13 12:23 PM ET | Bernie Becker and Peter Schroeder

Posted on 05/17/2013 10:12:04 AM PDT by xzins

Acting IRS chief Steven Miller on Friday said he did not believe agency officials did anything illegal when giving extra scrutiny to conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.

Miller, who was forced to resign this week by President Obama, said he didn’t believe the scrutiny was illegal even as he apologized for the IRS’s actions, which have turned into a political storm for the White House.

He also admitted under questioning from House Ways and Means Committee members that facts could emerge that might change whether he thinks anyone in the agency committed a crime, and he said one staffer involved in the extra scrutiny was reassigned and another received counseling.

Facing tense, and at times hostile, questions from GOP lawmakers at the first congressional hearing on the IRS controversy, Miller said the screening process the IRS used was “obnoxious” and called the customer service the agency offered “horrible.”

Miller stressed that the extra attention happened because IRS officials faced an avalanche of applications for tax-exempt status.

But he also pushed back on GOP lawmakers who said the IRS was targeting conservatives, calling that a “loaded” statement.

“When you talk about targeting, that’s a pejorative term,” Miller said.

Asked if the IRS's actions had been illegal, he responded: “I don’t believe it is.”

He then added of the behavior: “I don’t believe it should happen.”

Miller’s answers have not sit well with GOP lawmakers throughout Friday’s hearing, and his comments fly in the face of top Republicans like Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who have said that agency staffers should be jailed.

Republicans on Friday accused the acting IRS chief of lying to them about the extra scrutiny given to conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status. Miller found out about that special attention more than a year ago but declined to tell lawmakers.

At the start of Friday’s committee hearing, Chairman Dave Camp (R-Mich.) rattled off several different violations he believes the IRS committed.

Camp also linked the IRS uproar to what he called a “culture of cover-ups and political intimidation in this administration,” an apparent reference to last year’s attack in Benghazi, Libya, and the Justice Department’s subpoena of reporter records.

“This systemic abuse cannot be fixed with just one resignation,” Camp said. “And, as much as I expect more people need to go, the reality is this is not a personnel problem. This is a problem of the IRS being too large, too powerful, too intrusive and too abusive of honest, hardworking taxpayers.”

But Republicans on the panel have also expressed frustration throughout the hearing at Miller’s sometimes feisty answers, with the acting chief maintaining that he did not lie to them.

“You're not going to cooperate with me, Mr. Miller, and you've been uncooperative in this hearing,” Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.) told the IRS official.

Democrats acknowledged that the IRS had made serious mistakes and generally agreed with Miller’s statements that agency officials did not target Tea Party and conservative groups for political reasons.

“What I'm trying to point out, and basically to debunk, is the notion or idea the political statements — and, I believe, nonfactual statements by Chairman Camp — to link these scandals to the White House,” said Rep. Joe Crowley (N.Y.), a member of House Democratic leadership.

Democrats also stressed repeatedly that the Doug Shulman, who was IRS commissioner when the targeting took place, was nominated by former President George W. Bush. And several said that the major issue was the cloudy regulations guiding which groups should be granted tax-exempt status.

Miller is testifying along with Russell George, the Treasury inspector general whose report details what he called “ineffective management” at the agency.

George’s report found that the IRS asked for excessive information from conservative groups, including donor lists and whether group leaders wanted to run for public office. The IRS also applied inconsistent principles when deciding which groups to give extra screening, the report said, leading some groups to wait months or years for approval.

According to the inspector general’s report, Lois Lerner, the IRS official who first disclosed the targeting, found out in June 2011. Lerner pushed for the screening guidelines to be changed, but other IRS officials eventually went around her to change them again.

George’s report also says that IRS staffers assert that lower-level employees crafted the screening process and that they were not influenced by any outside group.

Miller on Friday acknowledged that Lerner’s disclosure of the IRS targeting last Friday came from a planted question.

Camp had said in his opening statement that he was interested in hearing why the IRS targeting occurred and why the agency kept it secret for so long, who started the extra scrutiny, and when President Obama and his administration found out.

But in a hearing break, he told The Hill that he wasn’t satisfied with the answers the panel was getting from Miller, a feeling shared by other Republicans.

“On the one hand, you’re arguing today that the IRS is not corrupt,” said Rep. Peter Roskam (R-Ill.). “But the subtext of that is you say, ‘Look, we’re just incompetent.’ And I think it is a perilous pathway to go down.”

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To: xzins
You keep repeating his firing was Obama giving the middle finger to all of us.

This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

This isn't over zin.

It's just started.

41 posted on 05/17/2013 4:26:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I find it unusual that you don’t realize that Obama’s firing Miller was just a ploy.

So be it.

Go on being happy that Obama gave everyone the finger.

I suppose it’s even possible you believe Obama was really, honestly trying to make the right people pay for this.


42 posted on 05/17/2013 5:30:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Try reading real slow, #40 and 41.

Please read prior to commenting and stop babbling. Thanks!


43 posted on 05/17/2013 6:49:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

Finally, you're seeing the light.

44 posted on 05/18/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: dragnet2
This was a way to make the dummies think he's taking action. It's all part of the diversion and deception.

Finally, you're seeing the light.

45 posted on 05/18/2013 6:38:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Steven Miller wasn’t even acting commissioner during the time the targeting took place.

I noted early on you totally evaded these questions below.

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Did you not hear his lying evasive, deceitful responses?

Was it not obvious to you he's part of this choreographed corrupt government cover up?

46 posted on 05/18/2013 9:55:01 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins
So Obama’s firing of a guy who wasn’t even there, and who is able to retire, is an in-your-face.

And ya got this wrong too.

Obama had this guy resign in an effort to deceive the American people into thinking he, "Got tough, took charge and made those responsible pay"

It's was all bull cheet to deceive...It had zip to do with, Obama doing this to "Be in your face".

Get it right zin.

47 posted on 05/18/2013 10:05:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I have answered and posted about Miller all along. My point is, and always has been, that he’s not the one that should have been fired to get Obama off the media hook. As I’ve said again and again, he wasn’t in charge of either the IRS or the relevant department at the critical times.


48 posted on 05/18/2013 10:17:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Get it right zin...


49 posted on 05/18/2013 10:18:48 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

It’s more than deceit. It’s a two-fer. He got to act tough will giving you the middle finger. EVERYONE knew Miller wasn’t in charge at the time of the run-up to the election.

I am right. I’ve been right all along.

In your case, though, you need someone to bow to your superior intellect.

Please consider this my admission that you are the master of the universe.


50 posted on 05/18/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: dragnet2

you are the brightness of the sun and the wisdom of the wise, o thou, most famousest of all


51 posted on 05/18/2013 10:21:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
I am right. I’ve been right all along.

LOL!

Take care zin...

52 posted on 05/18/2013 11:10:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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