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Gun control: Cartridge ID law to take effect (Kalifornia)
SFGate ^ | May 17, 2013 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 05/18/2013 5:43:40 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

A hotly contested gun-control law that was passed in 2007 is finally ready to be implemented, Attorney General Kamala Harris said Friday: a requirement that every new semiautomatic handgun contain "micro-stamping" technology that would allow police to trace a weapon from cartridges found at a crime scene.

The law, signed by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, made California the first state to require micro-stamping, which engraves the gun's serial number on each cartridge. But the legislation specified that it would take effect only when the technology was available and all private patents had expired.

The gun owners' group Calguns Foundation tried to forestall the law at one point by paying a $555 fee in an attempt to extend a patent held by the inventor, who wanted it to lapse. Gun manufacturers said the technology was expensive and ineffective, and a National Rifle Association lawyer has threatened a lawsuit.

But at a Los Angeles news conference Friday, Harris announced that micro-stamping had cleared all technological and patenting hurdles and would be required on newly sold semiautomatics, effective immediately.

"The patents have been cleared, which means that this very important technology will help us as law enforcement in identifying and locating people who have illegally used firearms," Harris said.

Attorney Benjamin Van Houten of San Francisco's Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence said the announcement should send a message to other states, the Obama administration and the gun industry that "this is the future and it's really critical to helping law enforcement solve gun crimes."

Implementation of micro-stamping "moves California to the forefront of the nation in combatting gun crime," said the law's author, former Assemblyman Mike Feuer, D-Los Angeles, who attended the news conference and is running for city attorney.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
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To: ConservativeInPA

I meant confuse as to why revolver casings are found scattered about.


21 posted on 05/18/2013 6:08:18 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: John Semmens

Thought this was one of yours...


22 posted on 05/18/2013 6:08:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Gaffer

Maybe because the empties stay in the revolver instead of getting ejected


23 posted on 05/18/2013 6:10:06 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

To: ConservativeInPA
I meant confuse as to why revolver casings are found scattered about..

Actually, revolver fired cases CAN be dumped/found on the ground. Should the shooter be carrying a “speed loader” which is used to quickly re-arm a weapon. The shooter can open the revolver, quickly dump the fired cases and then, using the speed loader, quickly re-arm the weapon, close it and and begin firing again. I carried speed loaders myself.


24 posted on 05/18/2013 6:28:28 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for HONEST government)
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To: varyouga

Bingo.


25 posted on 05/18/2013 6:36:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: headstamp 2
Not a single weapon should be sold to any California government agency ever again. They should be boycotted by all manufacturers.

The problem lies more with law-enforcement specialty vendors who sell to multiple states. Barrett could only refuse to do repair work for California; they could get his rifles through middlemen.

26 posted on 05/18/2013 6:40:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Second Amendment First; Joe Brower; Myrddin

I’m so glad I got the hell out of Mexikalifornistan.


27 posted on 05/18/2013 6:44:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Pass a law that you must eject the spent cartridges before leaving the crime scene.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 6:44:29 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Second Amendment First
If no manufacturers are making these, where will the cops buy their new pistols? Or are they exempt?

Exempt, just as they are exempt from only purchasing guns on the Kalifornia "approved" list, and exempt from the 10 round magazine limit.

29 posted on 05/18/2013 6:49:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Second Amendment First


30 posted on 05/18/2013 6:49:43 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: Second Amendment First

“Treaties have to be confirmed by two thirds of the Senate. Not going to happen soon.”

2/3 of the senators “present”. Expect Ried to have a midnignt unannounced gathering of select senators to vote on this. Noone opposed will know about the vote untill it is too late for America.

“0” will just happen to walk in and be able to sign the bill at 12:15 AM, while amerika sleeps.


31 posted on 05/18/2013 6:59:56 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat VEGETABLES!)
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police your brass


32 posted on 05/18/2013 7:01:07 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: Second Amendment First

Sure, trace the weapon from the cartridge.......until you change the barrel or use a revolver. But, hey........it feeeeeeeeeeeeeels good.


33 posted on 05/18/2013 7:15:07 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Mouton

Too bad those people aren’t gun owners and only care about free phones and food stamps.


34 posted on 05/18/2013 7:16:29 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Big Mack
2/3 of the senators “present”. Expect Ried to have a midnignt unannounced gathering of select senators to vote on this. Noone opposed will know about the vote untill it is too late for America.

This deserves repeating...

35 posted on 05/18/2013 7:40:05 AM PDT by Gritty (The Constitution's purpose is to insulate personal freedom from a lust for power-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: Second Amendment First

What part of the brass gets micro stamped?


36 posted on 05/18/2013 7:42:24 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Second Amendment First

Sounds like an incentive to use revolvers, to use brass catchers, or to file the number off the firing pin. It has no law enforcement value, just a frivolous tax to make firearms more expensive.


37 posted on 05/18/2013 7:50:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: stuartcr

Firing pin imprints code on primer face.


38 posted on 05/18/2013 7:53:35 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Pollster1

It is frivolous and it’s harassment. There are so many ways to defeat it. I suppose it’s illegal to have a new pistol with the firing pin replaced unless you have a receipt from a gunsmith showing replacement for a broken one.


39 posted on 05/18/2013 7:56:46 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Buy revolvers.


40 posted on 05/18/2013 7:58:21 AM PDT by PAR35
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