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Teen denied diploma, fined over Native American feather
QMI AGENCY ^ | June 4, 2013

Posted on 06/04/2013 11:44:25 AM PDT by rickmichaels

An Alabama teenager was denied her high school diploma and fined $1,000 for wearing a feather on her graduation cap to celebrate her Native American heritage.

Escambia Academy High School in Atmore, Ala., makes its students and staff sign a pre-graduation contract agreeing not to wear "extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration."

Chelsey Ramer, 17, tried in vain to get approval to attach an eagle's feather to her graduation cap as a symbol of her Native culture.

"They told me that if I wore it that they would pull me off the field," Ramer, a member of the Poarch Creek Band, told NBC affiliate Local 15.

But Ramer wore it anyway and refused to sign the dress-code contract.

The school wouldn't give Ramer her diploma. She now has to fork over $1,000 to get it.

The teen, however, regrets nothing.

"It was worth it. It means a lot to me," Ramer said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: americanindians; commencements; leftismoncampus; nativeamericans
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To: clee1
I'd be inclined to take it to court.

Well, yeah. Muslims, Amish, Jewish men in those caps, members of religious orders, I could keep going get to wear their stuff. What the heck is wrong with an eagle feather? Maybe it's an environment crazy thing. Surely they couldn't object to her being proud of her native American heritage.

21 posted on 06/04/2013 11:58:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
“I MUST wear an eagle feather to prove that I am distant and separate from the citizenry of the United States of America that provided me the free education we are celebrating."

It's a private school.

22 posted on 06/04/2013 11:58:22 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: rickmichaels

>> Ala., makes its students and staff sign a pre-graduation contract agreeing not to wear “extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration.” <<

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How can arbitrary, and thuggish fiat actions like this be lawful?

We are not supposed to be a regimented society, and personal touches should be encouraged, not punished.
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23 posted on 06/04/2013 11:58:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: basil

Guilty of what?

Free American spirit?


24 posted on 06/04/2013 12:00:00 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

That’s the fauxnees


25 posted on 06/04/2013 12:00:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: clee1
What is the legality of the school levying a fine, or withholding her diploma?

I’d be inclined to take this to court.

From what I've been able to gather, this is a private school, and the prohibition of a graduating student's wearing unapproved apparel and/or accoutrements is spelled out in the school's handbook. Also specified there is the warning that one's diploma may be withheld until disciplinary action has been imposed.

26 posted on 06/04/2013 12:01:08 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Arbitrary rules are meant to be broken.


27 posted on 06/04/2013 12:01:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“I MUST wear an eagle feather to prove that I am distant and separate from the citizenry of the United States of America that provided me the free education we are celebrating.”

Not to mention all the wonders created by Western civilization such as air conditioning, health care, the WHEEL, written language and a million other things.

The school wanted to have a serious ceremony without stupid ethnic pride displays or other nonsense. If you let the indian wear her feather what about the Italian kid wants to put a plate of meatballs and spaghett on his mortar board? Why can’t these insecure attention ho’s just follow the rules.


28 posted on 06/04/2013 12:02:39 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: rickmichaels

I have to go to graduation evey year. It is a race to the bottom for poor behavior by students and parents.

She knew the rules but the “please look at me!” Attitude of our modern culture couldn’t be denied. She willingly paid the price though now she seems to be ready to place the race card. Unless someone else got to wear something extra and she didn’t, case dismissed.


29 posted on 06/04/2013 12:02:39 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: clee1

Agreed. She fulfilled her “contract” of graduating, if there is such a contract. In any case, she earned the degree under other rules. The school should sue to get the $1,000 but I don’t think they can keep her degree.


30 posted on 06/04/2013 12:02:56 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Burkean

Yeh, or celebrate our European heritage by wearing a swastika. :-)


31 posted on 06/04/2013 12:04:02 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Arbitrary rules are meant to be broken.”

Just because you disagree with it doesnt make it arbitrary.


32 posted on 06/04/2013 12:06:16 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: SgtHooper

Swastikas aren’t even Euro. Dolphie stole them from the Buddhists!


33 posted on 06/04/2013 12:07:55 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall With no one to raise him up; And I will set)
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To: editor-surveyor
Ala., makes its students and staff sign a pre-graduation contract agreeing not to wear “extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration.” <<

. How can arbitrary, and thuggish fiat actions like this be lawful?

No, not "Ala. makes it students . . .," but, rather the Escambia Academy High School in Atmore, Alabama -- a private school -- does so.

I might myself not think too much of such a policy, or, at least, the way it is enforced, but the action is neither "arbitrary" -- the prohibition is spelled out in the school's handbook -- nor, to my mind, "thuggish." No one is forced to attend this particular private school in Alabama, even if they are forced to attend school.

The school has its own standards, explains them to its students (whose parents pay for the privilege of their children attending), and imposes penalties for specified violations of those standards. So far as that goes, I don't have a problem with it, myself.

34 posted on 06/04/2013 12:08:24 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

If the rule weren’t arbitrary, there would be an obvious benefit to it.

There is none, but undesirable regimentation.

If you wish to be controlled, that is your perogative, but stay away from the rights of the rest of us.


35 posted on 06/04/2013 12:09:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Seriously?

I’d “deport” her to her own small little mind that is focused on her self-perceived pathetic existence that makes her a “victim” living in the greatest nation that has ever existed.


36 posted on 06/04/2013 12:11:24 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Some folks think they are above the rules.

And some people make rules they have no authority to enforce, or selectively enforce the ones they do.

I'm looking at you, Baraq Ubamugabe.

37 posted on 06/04/2013 12:12:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: rickmichaels
From Ayn Rand's "Textbook of Americanisms." ...

"Do not be misled . . . by an old collectivist trick which goes like this: there is no absolute freedom anyway, since you are not free to murder; society limits your freedom when it does not permit you to kill; therefore, society holds the right to limit your freedom in any manner it sees fit; therefore, drop the delusion of freedom—freedom is whatever society decides it is.

It is not society, nor any social right, that forbids you to kill—but the inalienable individual right of another man to live. This is not a “compromise” between two rights—but a line of division that preserves both rights untouched. The division is not derived from an edict of society—but from your own inalienable individual right. The definition of this limit is not set arbitrarily by society—but is implicit in the definition of your own right.

Within the sphere of your own rights, your freedom is absolute."

That last line is worth rembering.

38 posted on 06/04/2013 12:12:30 PM PDT by OldNavyVet ("Within the sphere of your own rights, your freedom is absolute." Ayn Rand)
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To: rickmichaels

A graduation ceremony is intended to honor a group of people who’ve all gone through a required curriculum successfully, not to be a platform for displays of individual ethnic or other characteristics.

Every occasion doen’t have to be open to every display of personal expression the invidual participants might ‘feel’ like induling in. The girl can wear her feather during her personal time for the rest of her life if she so chooses. This was not an occasion for her to draw individual attention to herself.


39 posted on 06/04/2013 12:13:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: George from New England
My sons go to a private school. They have similar rules and the teachers, students, and parents respect that.

If everyone wants to add something then where do you draw the line? It was a selfish move on the student's part meant to call attention to herself and set herself apart from her classmates. You don't want to wear what they tell you wear? Then don't go.

40 posted on 06/04/2013 12:14:07 PM PDT by hometoroost
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