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Gay Colorado couple accuses baker of discrimination over refused wedding cake
www.nydailynews.com ^ | June 7, 2013 | AP

Posted on 06/10/2013 7:09:20 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: kimtom; Lazamataz
In 1992, Gail and I and the kids "checked out," of the corporate/engineering world. We bought and for several years ran an Office Supply and Printing business in Montana.

From the start, I kept a sign prominently diplayed in several places in the business that said,

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE, AT ANYTIME, FOR ANY REASON"

Laz, I thought you might appreciate this story.

I only had to used it a couple of times. One time was with a woman who was an artist in town. She owned and operated a small book store and had a gallery in the back room. We knew of her, but I'd never been in her store but up until the date of these events we had cordial realtions with her.

One day she came in and asked me what it would cost to print 500 posters of a 17" x 34" painting she had made. I asked her if it was a full color, or limited color or black and white painting. She said it was full color.

I asked her to step back to printing press room where we had a large layout table so I could see her painting. So, she followed me back and took the painting out of a carrier and showed it to me. I was appalled.

It was a painting of several nude women engaging in some of the most disgusting displays of sexual contact I could have imagined. In fact, up until seeing that filth, I could not have imagined it.

I rolled up her painting, put it back in its carrier, gave it to her, and said, "I'm sorry, my children work with me in this shop, and I have numerous young people and customers who would be appalled at such a painting. In addition, I am personally appalled at it and have to tell you that I will never print such a painting here."

She became quite agitated and indicated that since I was the only Printer in towm at the time, she expected me to print it.

I told her she could "expect," all she wanted but I would not do it.

She started to threaten my business with law suits.

I took her to the front of the store and showed her the sign she had walked underneath to get back to the printing press (the one indicated above) and told her that that sign was made for people like her and then asked her to take her painting and please leave the premises.

She did so, but in a very boisterous manner, continueing to threaten to shut my business down all the way out the door.

A week or ten days later, she showed up with an individual she said was her lawyer. I took them to the sidewalk in front of my store and said I would not discuss the matter on my premisis, but would be happy to briefly discuss it on the sidewalk.

The supposed lawyer proceeded to inform me that a civil law suit could be brouth against me on the grounds I was discriminating against her, and that in addition to "forcing" me to print the painting, that significant punitive damages would also be sought.

I told him, "Look, I stand on my individual rights to do business with whomerver I please and reserve the right to refuse service to whomever I please. That notice has always been prominently displayed in my store. So, go ahead. Knck yourself out. Sue an be damned.

"If you win, I will simply shut the business down, destroy my own equipment, and you will still have to find someone else to do your printing because I will not do it under any circumstances, court order or not...and my equipment will not do it."

I then invited them to be on their way and went back inside my business.

I never heard from her or her "lawyer," again.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

21 posted on 06/10/2013 7:44:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: rey

There are undetectable drugs that stop hearts ~ but some of these gay guys are into some serious risk taking.


22 posted on 06/10/2013 7:48:43 AM PDT by muawiyah (Git yer Red Arm Bands here - $29.95 - NOT SOLD IN STORES - TAX FREE)
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To: Jeff Head

excellent story...everyone should post such sign....


23 posted on 06/10/2013 7:49:36 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Jeff Head
It was a painting of several nude women engaging in some of the most disgusting displays of sexual contact I could have imagined. In fact, up until seeing that filth, I could not have imagined it.

I would have not only printed it, but hung a print up so could see it from my bed.

24 posted on 06/10/2013 7:52:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: kimtom

Discrimination is good. discrimination allows one to shun that which is bad or perceived as bad.


25 posted on 06/10/2013 7:52:33 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Who will shoot Liberty Valence?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

ya, what’s with all these gay wedding cake stories recently? This isn’t the first story of this type. It reeks of an organized attempt to identify certain bakeries, and then target them with lawsuits if they indicate disagreement with homosexual marriage.


26 posted on 06/10/2013 7:56:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: kimtom
Yep...but then they also have to have the strength of will to face up to the inevitable attempts to initimidate and dissuade and then mean it when you say they will not do it in any case.

I did mean it...and these people knew it.

I can always face bankruptcy or a social stigma if I have to, and then rebuild my business and career.

I cannot easily rebuild my honor and charachter once it is given away under coerscion or for any other reason.

27 posted on 06/10/2013 7:57:21 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: kimtom

This was foreseeable. Next they will go after the churches that don’t do gay ‘marriages.’


28 posted on 06/10/2013 8:01:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (If I Pi$$ed off just one liberal today my mission has been accomplished.)
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To: kimtom

I have some friends in the wedding cake biz, and they simply tell anyone who they don’t want to work with that they aren’t available on the date required.

“Whoops, we’re already booked. Have a nice day.”


29 posted on 06/10/2013 8:18:31 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

I’m sure that every day of the year could be some holiday in some obscure religion... beside Christianity.

They’d have to respect that.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 8:20:02 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: circlecity
Would a black baker be legally reqired to cater a “White Pride” event if two skinheads came in asking him to do so?

I was thinking the same thing. Should a Jewish baker be required to provide a cake with a swastika on it for a group of neo-nazis?

31 posted on 06/10/2013 8:26:41 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

It is permissible to attack Christian beliefs.
All other “tolerance”, in fact, is based on this goal - to oppose and attack Christian beliefs.


32 posted on 06/10/2013 8:28:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Revelation 911
i feel the turd pushers are shopping for a payout

More than that, they want the economic destruction of anyone who doesn't approve of them.

33 posted on 06/10/2013 8:34:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: kimtom

Go Alton Brown bitches.

You are self serving cracker suckers.

There is nothing stopping you from seeking out bakers who will make your “Gake”.

This is all about your bloated and arrogant ego, who seeks only to take advantage of another person, giving you validation for your existence and relevancy by the process.

Pound sand and instead of creating chaos, celebrate your union in the easiest way possible.

Your schtick is getting to be so old and you don’t realize that you are not only making a mockery of your personage but, are freaking making yourselves into objectified poosies.

Further, your creating a further deficit of character that makes you and your crowd, identified by only one subject; that of being animals possessed by a singular focus of an act that comprises a mere 15 minutes of your life, a day or two a week.

Are you fags? Or are you human beings with several and similar interests that are common and shared.

Don’t worry,

Be Gay....

Or just be regular person interested in a variety of things and shared experiences.

You are kicking your own azzez the same way Ellen Degenerres did when she made her comedy show all about being gay.

The schtick got old.

Now she is back to being her brilliant self, with a talk show that interesting and funny.

Bake yer own cake.


34 posted on 06/10/2013 8:45:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: kimtom

Do people realize how stupid this crap is? What a waste of time for society.


35 posted on 06/10/2013 8:58:30 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Lazamataz

Made me laugh, thanks.Still I’m glad the printer had good morals.


36 posted on 06/10/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

Me too. :) Jeff’s the best.


37 posted on 06/10/2013 9:07:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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MASTERPIECE CAKESHOP
38 posted on 06/10/2013 9:13:02 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: kimtom

Tell them that the only type of cake available for this is fudge.


39 posted on 06/10/2013 9:17:39 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: MrB

Bingo!


40 posted on 06/10/2013 10:02:38 AM PDT by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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