Obama To Ignore Senate, Sign 2nd Amendment-Violating U.N. Gun Treaty

Revolution Radio ^ | June 11, 2013 | Paul Martin

[yoe]

A majority in the U.S. Senate has told President Barack Obama not to do it. There’s no doubt that an overwhelming majority of Americans would oppose it — if the media ever told them about it.

Nonetheless, this past Monday, Secretary of State John Kerry said that Obama will sign a controversial gun-control treaty promulgated by the United Nations. “We look forward to signing it as soon as the process of conforming the official languages is completely satisfied,” Kerry said in a prepared statement.

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[rarestia]

No, I see your point, I’m trying to make sense of what I thought.

Isn’t there something where if a treaty is signed by the PotUS but never ratified by the Senate, it is considered “always available” for the Senate to ratify? Essentially, there’s no expiry on the ratification of the treaty?

[lepton]

Just like an amendment, if there is no time limit in it, there is no time limit for ratification.

The last Constitutional Amendment is an example, having taken around two centuries to complete the process.

[lepton]

The President can withdraw it though.

[Old Yeller]

Again, those responsible must not be allowed to escape when it hits.

[rarestia]

There are actually 5 outstanding Constitutional Amendments awaiting ratification:

Article the First: After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every forty thousand persons (sets a minimum of 100 Representatives thereafter, and creates a floor of 40,000 persons per District), until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every fifty thousand persons.(sets a minimum of 200 Representatives thereafter, and creates a ceiling of 50,000 persons per District) (my personal favorite)

Titles of Nobility Amendment:If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain, any title of nobility or honour, or shall, without the consent of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them.

The Corwin Amendment:No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State. (specific to slavery)

The Child Labor Amendment:Section 1. The Congress shall have power to limit, regulate, and prohibit the labor of persons under eighteen years of age.

Section 2. The power of the several States is unimpaired by this article except that the operation of State laws shall be suspended to the extent necessary to give effect to legislation enacted by the Congress.

The Equal Rights Amendment:Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification

DC Voting Rights Amendment:Section 1. For purposes of representation in the Congress, election of the President and Vice President, and article V of this Constitution, the District constituting the seat of government of the United States shall be treated as though it were a State.

Section 2. The exercise of the rights and powers conferred under this article shall be by the people of the District constituting the seat of government, and as shall be provided by the Congress.

Section 3. The twenty-third article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 4. This article shall be inoperative, unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission.

[rarestia]

Two things.

First, my apologies. I misread your post to mean that you were saying there were no further outstanding amendments. I now take your meaning appopriately.

Second, the DC Voting Rights Amendment expired in 1985 after the lapse of the 7 year limit placed in the amendment.

[lepton]

I could have been more clear.

I was referring to the amendment which limited when congressional pay raises could take effect.

[lepton]

Thank you for that list. I was actually aware of most of them, but a couple were new to me.

[wildbill]

don’t treaties have to be approved by the senate or have i lost my mind?

[i_robot73]

Nothing can supersede the Constitution, outside of an Amendments.

Let’s see if my theory would hold up:
Constitution gives gov’t certain, limited powers
Senate/pres. sing treaty saying Constitution is null

Yeah, looks legit to me /s

[ClearBlueSky]

He has overruled Congress, he has ignored the Senate. How long before the Constitution is effectively irrelevant and both Congress and the Senate are dissolved?