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Vanity (Question): How do we reverse engineer the Federal Leviathan?
JSDude1 | 6/15/2013 | Me

Posted on 06/15/2013 10:40:21 AM PDT by JSDude1

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To: HiTech RedNeck
No human method is going to clean up this mess. None.

Agree.

It's in God's hands now. Even after being warned for millennia, we still continue to mess things up.

101 posted on 06/15/2013 8:05:26 PM PDT by Errant
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To: JSDude1
. . . . but if we (continued) to pay for those who are retired and reliant upon this system (the believe they were promised this SSA by the government) yet ALLOWED those who opt out to invest in some kind of retirement account invested at their discretion instead of paying into SSA/the general budget. (and if someone is partly paid into SSA-well give them a choice to continue with that, or to opt out for the remainder).

Then we have transitioned to a free market (and gotten government) out of the retirement business in 20-30 years without disruption of lives

You might want to go back to the drawing board. Bush, 43, wanted to allow people to control a mere 2% of their retirement by putting their SSA money into stocks. It was overwhelmingly rejected by younger voters who believed what the leftists told them that their money would be stolen.

Also, you can't reverse engineer the federal leviathan in a way that someone won't get hurt and lose something - be it welfare, SS, disability, Obamaphone, etc. There's no way to break this elephant down into smaller parts and walk away with a win-win.

102 posted on 06/15/2013 9:54:28 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: JSDude1
When free people of every difference under the sun, stand as one people and say enough.

No more free rides for politicians, no more exempting themselves from every law they foist on us

No more laws placing drones in the skies to take out Americans

No more unfettered spying on every American

No more assclown politicians who think that making them fall under Obamacare is UNFAIR! Are you f'en kidding me.

No more NDAA BS laws that apply to Americans, without judicial review

If that happens, just maybe.... but buy ammo, and prepare to take the country away from crooked cops, judges, politicians.

Every ill this country faces can be laid at their feet.

Gen. Mattis said is correctly: Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill every one you meet.

103 posted on 06/15/2013 10:50:15 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: tacticalogic
Obviously, the old standard

LOVE 1.1

104 posted on 06/15/2013 10:54:16 PM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Errant

God does not have any grandchildren. Everyone must personally say no or yes. Talking about millennia is simply meaningless.


105 posted on 06/16/2013 11:24:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Talking about millennia is simply meaningless.

You missed my meaning. I was speaking of the human race as a whole, unable to learn from history (or warnings in scripture), repeating the same mistakes and entering the same cycle, over and over.

Except this time, it may be worse than any other from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be in the future - borrowing the Messiah's words.

106 posted on 06/16/2013 12:03:16 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

Why of course it can’t and nobody would believe it could if it tried its, er, damndest. One of the hardest errors to uproot is the idea that if we just tried hard enough we could improve our own act and it would be a Good World. No we couldn’t; we’d just sin harder and in different ways. We have to love our way back and it begins by accepting a love that we never initiated ourselves.


107 posted on 06/16/2013 12:07:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We have to love our way back and it begins by accepting a love that we never initiated ourselves.

Easier said than done, obviously. :) Not sure what's irritating you, but sincerly hope tomorrow is a better day for you.

108 posted on 06/16/2013 12:12:32 PM PDT by Errant
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To: kitkat

Great tagline...I do so through out the day ;)


109 posted on 06/16/2013 12:15:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: JSDude1
What are you talking about specifically? What is it that you want to get rid of?

When you answer that question you can begin to set priorities -- to figure out what it is that bothers you most -- and then you enter the real world of politics, which means setting priorities, making choices, solving problems, rather than simply wishing your way back to some earlier state of affairs, that may or may not be any better than what we have now.

110 posted on 06/16/2013 12:16:42 PM PDT by x
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To: Errant

What “irritates” me is that Christians often carry in the back of their mind a picture of the fundamentally impossible when critiquing humanity... the couldas, shouldas, wouldas. This is at root an appeal to self pride. Self pride can only do one thing and it’s to fail miserably.


111 posted on 06/16/2013 1:00:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: Errant

And in a way it’s difficult and in a way it’s easy!

It involves the pride busting process of giving up, both on the prideful efforts and upon the mistaken value systems that encouraged the pride. The second thing is less intuitive because we’ve grown up from birth in pride.

There’s a reason why the whores got into heaven quicker than the Pharisees.


112 posted on 06/16/2013 1:02:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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