Posted on 06/15/2013 4:52:01 PM PDT by tje
The National Security Agency has acknowledged in a new classified briefing that it does not need court authorization to listen to domestic phone calls.
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed "simply based on an analyst deciding that."
If the NSA wants "to listen to the phone," an analyst's decision is sufficient, without any other legal authorization required, Nadler said he learned. "I was rather startled," said Nadler, an attorney who serves on the House Judiciary committee.
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Tapped Enough Already?
Heck it seems I have been tapped and followed for a long long time now
Massive tax revolt. It’s the only way out this side of the unthinkable.
What’s your sign-up date?
That authorization appears to extend to e-mail and text messages too.
The Freepers who want Snowden hung from the nearest tree going to demand Nadler be hung also for revealing this?
If you can’t figure out how to make the checks and balances work with this government, What makes you think you can figure it out with a new government?
If you can’t figure out how to make the checks and balances work with this government, What makes you think you can figure it out with a new government?
bump to the top!!!!
Anyone surprised by this? Anyone at all? No?
That's not how you spell "shoot..."
Didn ‘t snowmen say that this was just the tip of the iceberg????
“How close are we to the point where the risks of a Constitutional Convention outweigh the risks posed by the trajectory the federal government is presently on.”
“A Convention is the only way to solve all these problems.”
Your statement makes no sense whatsoever, we already have a constitution, what we need to the will to enforce it.
Jefferson summed it up quite nicely, “A people unwilling to use EXTREME violent force to obtain or preserve their liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them”
They gave us the 2nd amendment to enforce the US Constitution, Jefferson also said, “When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty.”
< I think anyone who initiated anything would not live long, or at least, be threatened with death. They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line. >
Wow. That’s quite a statement. So you’re saying that ANYONE in public life who says ANYTHING is risking his or her life by speaking out and defending the Constitution? That almost sounds threatening, considering it’s coming from someone who’s been here about 3 months. Maybe you’re just one of those “We’re-All-Gonna-Die” people. They seem to permeate FR here lately with the “Why-Try?-We’re-Screwed” mentality. Did you know that negativity can be contagious? Emotional contagion, they call it. I wonder what Alinsky called it? I really should look that up.
< Sites like FR, conservative talk radio and much more will probably be gone within a few years. >
Right.
So how long before Nadler claims he misunderstood what he heard or that what he said was taken out of context?
They can make noises but don’t dare cross the line.
You think Nadler heard the NSA witnesses wrong? He’s saying this is what the committee was told by the NSA people. What would be his motive to lie about this? If he’s pro-Obama he’s admitting this against his own interest, which automatically raises the question of why he would lie in order to hurt his own interests.
So do they tape the Sunday news shows on Friday? I assume the info is too late, or am I wrong?
Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals
The rules
1.“Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”
2.“Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
3.“Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
4.“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
5.“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
6.“A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
7.“A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
8.“Keep the pressure on. Never let up.”
9.“The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10.”The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
11.“If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.”
12.“The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
13.“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
I wondered about that. I thought the phone calls would be digital data. William Binney talked about this in regards to emails (see http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/13854-nsa-whistleblower-%E2%80%9Cevery-american-is-under-surveillance%E2%80%9D ) and Dennis Kucinich also talked about this (see http://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/3284978-the-real-scandal-surrounding-the-petraeus-resignation ). But I wondered if this also included digital files of phone conversations.
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