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To: Mark17
I am not young, but I AM leaving. Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. It IS over.

15 years ago, I had dual citizenship in Chile. I'm sorry I gave it up. Even though the government may be socialists, they leave you alone. In "free" nations like the Brits and US, we're being hassled by multiple levels of government 24/7.

When did we allow this to happen?

61 posted on 06/16/2013 9:50:01 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
When did we allow this to happen?

I do not know. I am moving to the Philippines later this year. I am going to Davao City. I was there a few months ago. I have been all over the Philippines, and I never saw as many ex pats (Brits, German, Dutch, Americans, Canadians, Australians, Japanese, Chinese,Koreans) anywhere else, as I saw in Davao City. I felt much more freedom. They do not give you a big hassle like they do here. Color me gone.

65 posted on 06/16/2013 10:06:54 AM PDT by Mark17 (My heart is in the Philippines, and soon I will be too.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
When did we allow this to happen?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We allowed it to happen when we allowed the establishment of compulsory government schools in the mid-1800s to early 1900s.

By **definition** government schools are a single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded socialist entitlement. Children who attend risk learning to be comfortable with socialist government compulsion. In a mere one to three generations of this indoctrination our nation's voters gave us Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt!

Progressives have **always** controlled teacher training and curriculum development. And...The Progs have always pushed at the edges of social mores and ethical values.

Government schools at its best was merely lukewarm and generic Protestantism and today is utterly GODLESS! Children who attend **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. They must just to cooperate in the classroom. How could it be otherwise?

THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED!!!! AND CONSERVATIVES ALLOW THESE SCHOOLS TO REMAIN OPEN!!!

Axiom: It is impossible to have religiously, culturally, and politically neutral education.

Axiom: The most powerful political groups **will** get to control the government indoctrination centers and have ENORMOUS influence on the voting habits of the next generation of voters.

( Yes, I am shouting. I am exasperated that conservatives can be soooooo dense and continue to send their children into these EVIL indoctrination centers.)

66 posted on 06/16/2013 10:20:29 AM PDT by wintertime (Yuri Besmenov was a prophet.)
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