We Are This Far From A Turnkey Totalitarian State (Must Read - The NSA's Secret Utah Data Center)

Blacklisted News ^ | 5 Jun 13 | Zero Hedge

[xzins]

George Orwell was right. He was just 30 years early.

In its April cover story, Wired has an exclusive report on the NSA's Utah Data Center, which is a must read for anyone who believes any privacy is still a possibility in the United States: [mod note, Wired content is not allowed on FR]

[null and void]

Where’s Omnivore?

[supercat]

And yet, they couldn’t prevent the Boston bombings.

That's not a bug. That's a feature. It demonstrates the need for more surveillance.

[fella]

This is a supposedly private outfit that's also collecting lots of data.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Time for Anonymous to get to work. But.. Maybe Anonymous IS the NSA?? Yikes.

[TLI]

Binney held his thumb and forefinger close together. “We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state,”

We are, like, that far from LOL at the stupidity of this.

Or, like, were ANY of them "that far" from realizing the entire MO of their shiny thing can only play catch-up to current and leading events?

Apparently not...

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[citizen]

Bttt

[Texas Fossil]

I became a history student in 1976 after reading Anthony Brown’s “The Bodyguard of Lies”. Spent 8-9 years reading everything I could find related to WWII Sig/Intel. Then more modern related material, some crypto analysis history. Starting with Herbert Yardley and then David Khan.

Yardleys’s “The Chinese Black Chamber” was a very good read.

Years later read Bamford’s “The Puzzle Palace” right after it was released. Then Deep Black and some others.

There are some very interesting Early American books about this type of subject.

Most people are not aware that Thomas Jefferson built the 1st rotary encryptor, it was made from deer horn cut in thin slabs with a screw securing the sequence disks in the center, inscribed on outside. Disks could be re-sequenced to change encoding.

My that has been a long time ago.

[Texas Fossil]

Hassan was in Obozo’s transition team.

Enough said?

[JoeProBono]

[spokeshave]

...just hook it up to the drones ...and Skynet emerges...

[spokeshave]

....first up add in the GPS coordinates taken during the last census.

[TLI]

It's got a "Visitor Center!"
How bad can it be?

WELCOME TO THE VISITORS CENTER!

Smile for the group photo...

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[Hetuck]

Excellent article -- well worth a read or re-read. 1000 exabytes per year, the worldwide data volume projected in 2015, corresponds to a rate of data creation of about 30 Terabytes per second, or about 240,000 Gigabits per second. Assuming the Center is designed to store most or all of this data, how will it be transmitted for collection? I presume it's via buried fiber optic cable, as I don't see any satellite dishes in the images of the Center.

[PghBaldy]

You are right. It took Obama for me to see my concerns about Bush (who I strongly supported until amnesty and assorted other things) were well-founded and that it doesn’t matter much who is in charge - the Feds will continue to get more tyrannical.

[max americana]

“A Moslem attack with an EMP that sends us back to 1889.”

Good. Back then, Americans were patriotic Americans unlike today.

[Nowhere Man]

This reminds me of a modern day "Tower of Babel." This will fall one day, be it from someone, or something breaks or even God Himself would take care of it much as he did to Emperor Nimrod with the original Tower of Babel. Yeah, this is a powerful system but as things get more sophisticated and the chain gets longer, it is only as strong as the weakest link. If the power grid is disrupted unless they keep trucking diesel in, they are screw after three days. I'm surprised they are not using an atomic reactor or two. Same if the cooling system has problems and so on. Still this is wrong with the threat to our liberty but overall, there will be a day when this will grind to a halt and the powers that be will be irrelevant.

I can see it now, the reel-to-reel tape drives are whirring and spinning, banks of lights blinking on and off in weird patterns, relays clacking back and forth and so on. OK, maybe not exactly like that but I just finished watching a 1964 episode of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea." B-)

Back in 1988/89, one of my best friends went to France to study and we were talking about the same thing where computers were monitoring phone conversions and so on. Just for kicks and experimentation, we said stuff like, "how are your marks (Marx) coming in college over there" and "I'm just sitting here listening to some John Lennon (Lenin)" and we did hear some funny clicks and so on and then we said, "whoever is listening, get a life."

The powers that be are getting to smug and arrogant so this "Tower of Babel" will come down one day.

[Nowhere Man]

Anyone wishing to fight the United States government must plan on using Napoleonic-Era command and control, and using an EMP and/or massive jamming of all parts of the electromagnetic spectrum usable for communications, telemetry, radar and the like.

I can't remember where but someone did a wargame where one side used all this high-tech electronic messaging system while the other side used couriers on motorcycles. The side using the couriers won.

Even low-powered, low-tech stuff can work such as CB's or amateur radios if need be, yeah they can be monitored but if you use codewords and stuff, that could work.

[Nowhere Man]

If you want a good read about privacy in America, try Vance Packard’s “The Naked Society” written in 1964. Even though it is dated at times, it is very chilling.

[Nowhere Man]

Excellent article -- well worth a read or re-read. 1000 exabytes per year, the worldwide data volume projected in 2015, corresponds to a rate of data creation of about 30 Terabytes per second, or about 240,000 Gigabits per second. Assuming the Center is designed to store most or all of this data, how will it be transmitted for collection? I presume it's via buried fiber optic cable, as I don't see any satellite dishes in the images of the Center.

Dang, that's so much info, they will have to keep adding servers, hard discs, tape drives all the time. I hate to see all the reels of tape they would need. At some point, it will be too much and it will fall apart like the "Tower of Babel."

[No.6]

From '67:

[Number 2 is describing the Village]
Number Two: What in fact has been created? An international community. A perfect blueprint for world order. When the sides facing each other suddenly realize that they're looking into a mirror, they'll see that this is the pattern for the future.
Number 6: The whole world as the Village?
Number Two: That is my dream.

Be seeing you...