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NSA director: Edward Snowden has caused irreversible damage to US
http://www.guardian.co.uk ^ | , Sunday 23 June 2013 13 | Spencer Ackerman and Dominic Rushe

Posted on 06/23/2013 1:16:22 PM PDT by redreno

National Security Agency director Keith Alexander said on Sunday that whistleblower Edward Snowden betrayed the trust of Americans and defended the broad surveillance programs as necessary to prevent another terrorist attack.

As Snowden evaded an attempt on Sunday by Washington to have him arrested in Hong Kong, General Alexander told ABC's This Week: "This is an individual who is not acting, in my opinion, with noble intent ... What Snowden has revealed has caused irreversible and significant damage to our country and to our allies."

Alexander said the NSA surveillance programs Snowden had disclosed to the Guardian were tightly overseen and disputed statements from members of the Senate intelligence committee that they had not played a unique role in preventing terrorist attacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: benghazi; china; edwardsnowden; fastandfurious; hongkong; impeachnow; irs; keithalexander; nsa; nsadirector; prism; snowden; sourcetitlenoturl; trailblazer; tyranny; wot
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To: redreno

Snowden saved us from Alexanders gestapo!


81 posted on 06/23/2013 2:54:51 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: setha

I didn’t call him a hero. I said he did what many of us begged for and some of us turned on him will all the grace of a liberal.

The bottom line is that anyone here saying at this moment, that he is a traitor, stand up proudly and tell the world that YOU would trust your life/future/family to the creatures now running the GOP for protection.

If you can’t or won’t, you might want to ask yourself again why he did what he did.


82 posted on 06/23/2013 2:57:41 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: redreno

“Allies” being most of the governments and government-linked corporations against their private sector enemies, we presume.


83 posted on 06/23/2013 3:01:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: redreno

Why should we trust anybody in a government that ignores and subverts the will of the people?


84 posted on 06/23/2013 3:02:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Religious faith in government is far crazier than religious faith in God.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The problem with that it doesnt serve Snowden’s agenda, much less the agendas of the people helping him. In a strange sense, he has helped the very adminisration that he appears to oppose.

So not only has he gone against the US, he inadvertently has helped the very people he criticized.


85 posted on 06/23/2013 3:03:41 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: redreno

What about the others who’ve leaked details about the illegal surveillance?


86 posted on 06/23/2013 3:05:50 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: redreno

He didn’t release anything. All this is a smokescreen.


87 posted on 06/23/2013 3:06:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: CodeToad

Snowden is the new Emmanuel Goldstein.


88 posted on 06/23/2013 3:06:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: redreno
Nobody is watching the Watchers. How the hell do we know what damage they are doing.
Sure, what he did may have been illegal but there's not one politician who has the balls to
question the unwatchable NSA. Unwatchable by anybody who can do anything without being
cornered by RINO's and RATS for being Political! Well, after the IRS corruption
I have no problem with POLITICAL! Everything is political.

Just wait to see if a Republican gets the office of POTUS. Every damn RAT will be
squealing like stuck pigs about over-reach! The Same damn Over-reach the RATs are guilty of,
the same damn laws they pushed and used over-reachingly (sp) politically.

89 posted on 06/23/2013 3:07:08 PM PDT by MaxMax (I'f you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: redreno
Snowden just exposed another arm of the communists control of America. The NSA is just another part of the arm King Obama will use to control Americans.
90 posted on 06/23/2013 3:07:16 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: setha

Those lining up with Obama and the anti-Constitution (damm their rights and freedoms) crowd are the one who are causing irreversible damage to US, not Snowden who has exposed the illegal activity of this govt.


91 posted on 06/23/2013 3:09:17 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: dennisw

Just think, Adam and Eve only got to taste the fruit.

If what we read about the Snowden affair is truthful, then
isn’t it wonderful we have the technology to know everything about good and evil? /s


92 posted on 06/23/2013 3:16:39 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: redreno

I was on the fence before. Now I’m sure Snowden is the good guy.


93 posted on 06/23/2013 3:17:44 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Yep. I stated that I’d hold my peace until I could find out exactly what it was that Snowden revealed that was genuinely damaging. So far, nada. And the “well, it was horrible but we can’t tell you what it was because it’s classified” argument stinks like a three-day-dead fish. If he revealed it and it’s damaging, there isn’t much use to keep it classified, is there?


94 posted on 06/23/2013 3:22:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Lurker

From http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1260306/edward-snowden-classified-us-data-shows-hong-kong-hacking-targets

Snowden, the man behind explosive leaks of information on the US government’s Prism programme that collected phone and web data from its citizens, has pledged to stay in Hong Kong to fight any attempts by his government to have him extradited.

The detailed records - which cannot be independently verified - show specific dates and the IP addresses of computers in Hong Kong and on the mainland hacked by the National Security Agency over a four-year period.

They also include information indicating whether an attack on a computer was ongoing or had been completed, along with an amount of additional operational information.

The small sample data suggests secret and illegal NSA attacks on Hong Kong computers had a success rate of more than 75 per cent, according to the documents. The information only pertains to attacks on civilian computers with no reference to Chinese military operations, Snowden said.


IMHO, this is a criminal exposure of classified techniques.

Considering both China and the US have been constructing Zettabyte Data Centers, they both are operating along similar lines and haven for a decade.


95 posted on 06/23/2013 3:41:58 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: redreno

clintonh8r: Baraq Hussein 0bama has done irreversible damage to the United States


96 posted on 06/23/2013 3:56:44 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Europe was created by history. America was created by a philosophy." Baroness Thatcher)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Ok, fair enough. I would agree that calling him a traitor would be overdoing it.

That said, he has done things that make uncomfortable questions in uncomfortable places, especially given that national defense/security has not been questioned much until now. That is where I have an issue, since this cuts into any legitimate work that the NSA may do to prevent harm from groups that oppose anyone from the United States.

For what I see of it, he couldn’t handle doing the job, knowing that it put too much stress against his personal values. It’s not something that isn’t exactly unheard of in that line of work, but it is exceptionally rare for someone to go as far as Snowden.

Comfort is going to be something foreign to him for the rest of his life. I hope he understands that, since he will eventually have only one companion that he can trust.


97 posted on 06/23/2013 4:02:19 PM PDT by setha (It is past time for the United States to take back what the world took away.)
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To: setha

Oh he will have a bitch of a life, no doubt. The thing is, to me, there is all this feigned outrage on the right over him when not a day goes by that Obama and co do not fund terrorism, sending BILLIONS to the people trying to kill us. I do not see the level of sustained outrage directed at Snowden ever. It happens and people ignore the FACT the GOP could stop it, defund it, shut govt down if needed EVERY TIME.

And what does the GOP do? Take advantage of the convenient scapegoat to pile on. What do many Freepers do? Pile on.

He may well turn out to be a full blown traitor. But that does nothing to obscure the reality that our Govt considers us the enemy while funding AQ or the MB.


98 posted on 06/23/2013 4:09:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: redreno

Yeh, now the American public has wised up. That is definitely not what the NSA was looking for.


99 posted on 06/23/2013 4:56:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: gorush; ntnychik; potlatch; onyx

100 posted on 06/23/2013 5:02:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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