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LIVE Open thread: Senate to vote on Gang of Eight bill at 5:30 ET
Hot Air ^ | June 24, 2013 | Allahpundit

Posted on 06/24/2013 2:20:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

To be more specific, they’re voting on the bill plus the Corker/Hoeven amendment. My prediction: 72 yes votes, despite the phony border-security “triggers” and despite the fact that the bill now reeks of “Cornhusker Kickback”-style buyoffs to bring fencesitting Republicans on board. No matter. Schumer’s goal was 70 and I expect he’ll get it, which will help him with his exciting new “there’ll be mass demonstrations if the House doesn’t pass this thing” talking point.

Did you know that amnesty for illegals is a “civil rights” issue? You do now:

“This has the potential of becoming the next major civil rights movement. I could envision in the late summer or early fall if Boehner tries to bottle the bill up or put something in without a path to citizenship — if there’s no path to citizenship, there’s not a bill — but if he tries to bottle it up or do things like that, I could see a million people on the Mall in Washington,” Schumer said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Schumer said business leaders, evangelical leaders and CEOs of high tech companies would join the public call for action by the House on immigration.

He’s kidding himself if he thinks that summer will bring pressure on the House to pass, rather than kill, the bill, but never mind that......

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; aliens; amnesty; congress; illegals; immigration; senate
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To: machogirl

History will NOT be kind to these traitors.


181 posted on 06/24/2013 5:23:24 PM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

There may be nothing left to write a history about. TRAITORS


182 posted on 06/24/2013 5:26:32 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: butterdezillion
Rubio did end up voting for it. All the flip-flop was just for circus kicks.

Consider him PRIMARIED! I fought to get him in and now I'll FIGHT TO GET HIM OUT!!!! FUMR!

183 posted on 06/24/2013 5:27:54 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: butterdezillion

What is Rubio being promised that he’d shoot himself in the foot like that? VP? Money?

That’s why we need a generation or two of GOP control of the Congress. It’ll take that long to move the ball forward.


184 posted on 06/24/2013 5:35:56 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: machogirl
I caught it midway, but here's a re-cap of the "NATIONAL TELE-TOWNHALL", from earlier tonight, that included speakers: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Sen. David Vitter (R-LA):

La Raza and immigration lawyers were invited to sit in on the secretive meetings about the bill, but not Border agents.

This Bill will double the number of guest worker VISA's.

Q: What stops the US from enforcing current immigration laws?
Sessions: That's a $64K question...because they don't want to end illegal immigration.

Q: What is the most important thing(s) we can do to stop this Bill?
Sessions: CONTINUE TO CALL YOUR SENATORS!! Lots of calls are coming in...up to '07 call levels. And, defend the Senators who voted NO.

Q: How will this Bill be paid for?
Sessions: (Proponents claim) legalized immigrants will get SS#'s and will have SS and Medicare w/held. The proponents say this will add to the SS Trust Fund...but, this is NOT $$ to be spent. Count all in and count all out. These people will get this $$ when they retire. It's why our country is in the trouble we're in...double counting.

Q: This Bill lower wages and raises unemployment, why aren't Repubs talking about this?
Sessions: ....no idea why.

Q: Why isn't the elimination of birthright citizenship a cornerstone of any (immigration) reform?
Sessions: Because the people who drafted the Bill didn't put it in there. It's (BR Citizenship) is NOT in the Constitution. No other country has that rule.

Additional comments by Session:

They claim the Corker Amendment includes fencing the border. Not true! It's up to Nap to decide. She's already said we don't need anymore fence and that "the border is secure". I hope this Bill limps out of the Senate. Focus on the House and hope the House has a Bill that enhances job security, wages and prosperity of Americans.

There you have it...

Keep up the calls to your Senators and the House.

God bless Senator Sessions for yelling from the rooftops about this Shamnesty *reform*.

185 posted on 06/24/2013 5:36:55 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Jane Long

Thank you. I feel like throwing up.


186 posted on 06/24/2013 5:39:31 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I am with you. Toomey betrayed us and that 2A betrayal is unforgivable.

F Toomey.


187 posted on 06/24/2013 5:41:03 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: manc

Every senator I reached (except McCain) had a representative available to take my response...did not have to leave a phone message.


188 posted on 06/24/2013 5:41:20 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I called Murky's office this morning and told them we knew why she'd be voting Yes, if she did, because of the vote $$.

Once again, turns out Sarah was right on the (Murk) $$.

189 posted on 06/24/2013 5:42:04 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: Smokeyblue

“If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.”-Mark Twain


190 posted on 06/24/2013 5:42:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Guenevere

I called Juan a few days ago on my dime. Mailbox “full” and no one to answer. He has given us the finger for years.


191 posted on 06/24/2013 5:43:56 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Jane Long

Lisa Murkowski is just like her felon Daddy..both from the same cloth..Sarah knows exactly how the Murkowski’s roll all she had to do was look at the bill and find out the real reason why Lisa was voting YES..RINO scum..heck I dont even define these people as RINOS, that would imply that they are even Republican..they are NOT Republican, they are liberals


192 posted on 06/24/2013 5:47:43 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jane Long

Why can’t some secretary who types in what’s in the bill “accidentally” put something in there that’s actually good? If these people are going to vote yes on something unseen, why not have them find out the next morning that they just voted to appoint Joe Arpaio as a federal independent prosecutor against Obama’s crimes (or something similar)?

That’s the only way they are ever gonna learn their lesson about signing a blank check.


193 posted on 06/24/2013 5:48:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

They are crooks. Whichever side of the aisle they sit on.


194 posted on 06/24/2013 5:48:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

They are liberals, just nicer dressed..that is all they are..from Rubio to Graham on down the line..all traitors


195 posted on 06/24/2013 5:51:49 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda; butterdezillion
Crooks and traitors, all.

Mark Levin just said "our country's gone to h#ll, and the Repubs have helped us get there". Sad.

196 posted on 06/24/2013 5:56:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: manc

I too did call and on FB urged others. I called Portman about 5 times. On FB I would of gotten more response from friends if I had posted pic of cupcake! How do we wake up these other people who are 1) either tired 2) self absorbed 3) just can’t care anymore ????


197 posted on 06/24/2013 5:57:57 PM PDT by MadTbear
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To: sheikdetailfeather

You need to send a message to Mica.

http://youtu.be/R3-NRM-WRfQ


198 posted on 06/24/2013 5:59:04 PM PDT by beautress1 (Make today a masterpiece.)
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To: Jane Long

And he’s right..these GOP Senators actually believe that by giving illegal aliens amnesty that they are going to get illegals to vote GOP..LOL OMG biggest fail EVER..its NOT going to happen..They think they can buy illegal’s votes..its already been bought, by the Dems..the Supreme Court could rule that everyone must present an ID card to vote and I doubt the Dems care, especially if they get amnesty for illegals, they just gained 15+ million new voters..they will never lose another election


199 posted on 06/24/2013 5:59:48 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red in Blue PA

Red in Blue PA wrote:
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I am with you. Toomey betrayed us and that 2A betrayal is unforgivable.

F Toomey.
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I think Toomey may have been temporarily seduced with the idea of “reaching across the aisle” and thinking how really neat it would be to get his name attached to a major piece of legislation and maybe even get a cursory mention in U.S. history books. Well, he got smacked down for that big time. Maybe I’m being naive, but I’m really hoping Toomey’s “no” vote tonight is an indication that he’s learned his lesson. I’m willing to forgive him if he unwaiveringly goes back to casting reliable and principled conservative votes again. Believe me, we’re going to need EVERY Senate vote we can get if this nation is going to survive the next 3-1/2 years of the Marxist Dictator.


200 posted on 06/24/2013 6:00:07 PM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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