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To be Clear About Mark Zuckerberg’s Americans for a Conservative Direction
RedState.com ^ | April 24th, 2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 06/26/2013 1:10:19 PM PDT by TexasCajun

I just want to be clear about about the new front group for the Gang of Eight’s immigration proposal on the right, Americans for a Conservative Direction.

The group, funded by Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, is perfectly entitled to set up this group. A good bit of the center-right coalition supports the issue.

That’s not my problem

My problem is that this is just another example of Republican consultants seemingly bleeding people dry for crappy work product.

They call themselves Americans for a Conservative Direction, but one of their first ads is a poorly produced ad supporting Lindsey Graham, who is not exactly a stalwart of the conservative movement these days.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; facebutt; graham; immigration; mccain; rinoads; rubio; shamnesty; zuckerberg
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To: TexasCajun
Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he's seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won't vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House

21 posted on 06/26/2013 2:09:41 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Lions Gate
Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he's seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won't vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House

22 posted on 06/26/2013 2:13:06 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

“Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he’s seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House”

I agree and thanks for your comments - I’m calling Boehner’s office now.


23 posted on 06/26/2013 2:19:53 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: Democrat_media

“Michelle Bachman explained. ANY bill no matter if it promises all the border security you propose will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

at least 3 ways to destroy the USA

1. amnesty to 30 million illegals and chain migration.

2. Amnesty forever to ANY foreigner in the 3rd world. all he has to say is he’s seeking political asylum .there are 6 billion poor in the 3rd world . and this bill will allow any of the to come here , all they need is to get on a boat.
3. many more work visas for many occupations

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the House”

I agree and thanks for your comments - I’m calling Boehner’s office now.


24 posted on 06/26/2013 2:22:00 PM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Zuckerburg is the “face” of a government run social website.


25 posted on 06/26/2013 2:23:03 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Lions Gate

Thanks. if we have more people like you then we might save America .I’m going to call, email , twitter etc too. mainly boner and the House. But senators too. still a chance that they don’t get the 60 for cloture there IF we melt the phone lines


26 posted on 06/26/2013 2:29:16 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: ZULU
Rove likes Maro Rubio's Amnesty Bill

Appearing on FoxNews to defend the bill's security provisions, Rove singled out a Breitbart story which appeared Friday as "simply not true." Rove's criticism, however, was factually incorrect.

27 posted on 06/26/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Democrat_media; sickoflibs
Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway. but in the bill will be the virus:

It's true that there is a grave danger of House "comprehensive immigration" bills going into conference and coming out as amnesty bills.

However, sometimes not producing any bill at all is disastrous. Boehner, not wanting to be labelled as anti-woman, allowed a vote on VAWA and it passed as is.

If the House passes an enforcement only bill it would be difficult for RINOs to add path-to-citizenship in conference.

28 posted on 06/26/2013 3:15:07 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Michelle Bachman explained it. no bill must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty/let all foreigners in bill. So any House bill will be a trojan horse bill,ditto for any senate bill.

All democrats will vote for the Amnesty bill. so all they need to do is turn 10% of Republicans to get Amnesty . and they will get it if ANY bill comes out of the House( no matter if it's just a fence bill it WILL be merged with a Senate Amnesty bill. Bachman said this is the plan. this is why the zuckerberg ads keep playing to pass something anything.

29 posted on 06/26/2013 3:18:55 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media; sickoflibs

I voted for Bachmann in the 2012 primaries.

I used to make the same argument she is making, but now I have doubts.

If RINOs voted for a bill that was introduced in conference as enforcement only, but amnesty was added in conference, that would be considered an unforgivable betrayal by the House GOP, and those members would never be trusted. Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again. If they were going to go to that much trouble, why not juat vote for amnesty in the first place?

Boehner didn’t try to pass a more conservative VAWA, so then the House passed the Dem version.


30 posted on 06/26/2013 3:38:20 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again.

Yes by the full house but ALL democrats will vote to pass that Amnesty bill merged with the security bill.That is the plan Bachman said,. then all that democrats need to do is turn only 10% of Republicans in the House to vote for the merged bill and that is really easy to do. So NO bill must come out of the House .yes all conservatives will vote against it but if you think they can't find 10%? look at Ryan he is working on a lot of them will have much more than 10% . it's over if they pass any bill in the House

31 posted on 06/26/2013 3:42:46 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

I wish is were that simple.

That plan didn’t work for VAWA, and I will tell you why. Boehner is likely to feel pressure to vote on some immigration bill sooner or later. Review his announcements. If the House does not pass, say, enforcement only, what is stopping Boehner from letting them vote on the senate bill?

If the House GOP leadership was not so cowardly, I suppose Bachmann’s plan would work.

Either way carries some risk.


32 posted on 06/26/2013 4:07:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: TexasCajun
He, and his group FWD.us, also have a liberal version of that group http://www.councilforamericanjobgrowth.com/
33 posted on 06/26/2013 4:39:16 PM PDT by evilC
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To: TexasCajun

I figured it.


34 posted on 06/26/2013 6:04:11 PM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/) Obama, do you hear me?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Democrat_media; S
RE :”If RINOs voted for a bill that was introduced in conference as enforcement only, but amnesty was added in conference, that would be considered an unforgivable betrayal by the House GOP, and those members would never be trusted. Plus, after the conference vote, it would have to be passed by the full House again. If they were going to go to that much trouble, why not juat vote for amnesty in the first place?
Boehner didn’t try to pass a more conservative VAWA, so then the House passed the Dem version.”

Exactly, Bachman doesn't explain why her ‘House should do nothing’ strategy didn't stop VAWA (with new gay and illegal protections) and the tax extension both Senate bills from reaching Obama’s desk.
Failed strategy.

Besides, the House should drag this out with lots of investigative hearings on the Senate bill and the special interests behind it, before writing a bill. Imagine if it was Senate Obama-care sent over.

35 posted on 06/26/2013 7:19:21 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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