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Republican Party Won't Survive Amnesty Bill and Neither will America
American Thinker ^ | June 27, 2013 | Karin McQuillan

Posted on 06/27/2013 7:52:09 AM PDT by EXCH54FE

The Republican Party won't survive the passing of the Democrat's illegal immigration amnesty bill. This shouldn't be too complex for the D.C. geniuses: if you betray your party's base to pander to the opposition's base, they win, you lose.

If you screw the white working class to pander to the Hispanic vote, whites will stay home.

If you destroy your base's trust in government, by passing yet another 2000 page bill no one has read, Republicans will stay home. Republicans are too busy working and raising a family to waste their time voting for a bunch of cynical, lying politicians.

President Bush let down his base by spending money like a drunken sailor. They stayed home.

Obama lost Democrat voters in 2012, but he won anyway because an estimated 6 million white voters stayed home compared to 2008. Who were these election drop-outs? Rural, working class Republicans.

The Democrats want "comprehensive" immigration reform because it legalizes eleven (or is it twenty?) millionillegals, brings in their families and on top of that, doubles the number of legal immigrants. Plus the CBO says 75% of illegal immigration would continue. This will create a record number of foreign-born legals and illegals, mostly Spanish-speaking, mostly third world, mostly a net drain on taxpayers. We are talking about an estimated 56 million people within a decade. According to the Center for Immigration studies, "There has never been a period in American history when the foreign-born share grew this fast."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; republicanparty
The immigration bill will permanently wipe away America as we know it.

Read our lips: we do not want amnesty

1 posted on 06/27/2013 7:52:09 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

If they pass this abortion of sovereignty, as far as I’m concerned they can burn the whole mess down to the dirt. Starting in DC.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 7:53:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I have matches...

The ball is rolling. Ain’t nothin’ gonna stop it until it hits bottom.


3 posted on 06/27/2013 7:54:51 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: EXCH54FE
The immigration bill will permanently wipe away America as we know it.

"Fundamental change" has come.

A majority of American voters wanted it.

4 posted on 06/27/2013 7:55:57 AM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: EXCH54FE
I will not vote for any rino and democrat but will use my precious vote for those third party conservatives who will represent me and my conservative values if the evil gang of eight pass this obamantion immigration bill through the
Congress, who should be writing up impeachment proceedings against this evil and godless and unjust so call president and his democrat thugs.
5 posted on 06/27/2013 7:56:57 AM PDT by kindred (They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed,)
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To: Dead Corpse

Took 70 years for the house to burn completely down in the USSR. Ain’t gonna happen within my lifetime.


6 posted on 06/27/2013 7:57:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: EXCH54FE; All

The purpose of passing a Federal “reform” immigration bill this year is to allow illegal alien invaders from Mexico, and other Central and South American Socialist Countries, to vote for Socialist-Democrats and appeasing RINOs in the 2014 and 2016 National Elections for more debt-generating welfare to illegal alien invaders.

These future voters should be called “McCain-Rubio Democrats,” as no other Senators have done more to encourage gullible RINOs to appease and otherwise cave-in to debt-dependent Democrats than these two sorry RINO Senators.

Stand your ground, FReepers! Raise the Gadsden Battle Flag!

It is us against the gullible supporters of Obamanation!

For example:

While Rubio and his Eight Senate Gangsters put out political smoke and mirrors to “get a bill passed this year,” nothing they have said will change the basic problem of aliens illegally invading the USA.

The Basic Problem: Illegal aliens invade the USA for Welfare and Wages.

Solutions that address the Basic Problem:

1.) End the Anchor Baby Law.

2.) End the Hospital Emergency Room No Payment Law (EMTALA).

3.) End ANY other Welfare to Aliens.

4.) Fine US employers $1,000 per day per employee who is an alien.

5.) Spend NO money on “securing the border.” It is a bottomless money pit.

6.) Spend money on Chainlink/ Concertina wire desert prisons for the EXISTING Federal Law for a mandatory 6 month imprisonment for repeat offenders who have invaded our Country more than once.

7.) Transfer Border Invasion Enforcement to the US National Guard in each State, and thus under the control of the Governor of each State. The less Federal involvement, the better.

8.) Repeal all State and Federal Laws that prohibit voter officials and Police from requesting proof of US Citizenship for any reason what so ever.

9.) Be as hostile to all illegal alien invaders as we should be to all Federal politicians and Federal Judges who vote for or support another Kennedy-style amnesty bill with no significant Federal enforcement.

Contact your local TEA Party, and plan to kick the sorry RINOs and even sorrier Democrats out of Congress in 2014!

It is all about the money FReepers, YOUR tax money.


7 posted on 06/27/2013 8:00:12 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; GeronL; ...
RE :”The Republican Party won't survive the passing of the Democrat's illegal immigration amnesty bill. This shouldn't be too complex for the D.C. geniuses: if you betray your party's base to pander to the opposition's base, they win, you lose.
If you screw the white working class to pander to the Hispanic vote, whites will stay home. “

...and you wont win hispanics over with it either.

One big driving force here is the Chamber of Commerce $$$ wing of GOP who own many of the GOP Senators, certainly the ~ 15 needed to get them ~70.

Remember last years GOP fetish with those ‘job creators’ (they mean anyone rich) ??
that ended in disaster?
Those rich guys in Romney 47% video? ironically

They are spending LOTS to buy amnesty.

They get tax deductions for those lying commercials too.

8 posted on 06/27/2013 8:01:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: EXCH54FE

If you wonder what is the motive behind schmucky schumer’s smile as he stands behind rubio, once the darling of the tea party, who is at the podium fighting for amnesty, it is an overflowing joy that both the GOP and rubio can both be so stupid and suicidal, much like bin laden’s joy that his attack actually brought down both WTC towers.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:07 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Gaffer

AGREE. Can I help - who be issue the call and lead?


10 posted on 06/27/2013 8:04:15 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: EXCH54FE

What I can’t fathom is what is the secret reason the Republican sell outs want it? What do they get? More Sunday morning news spots?


11 posted on 06/27/2013 8:05:23 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize.” ~ Voltaire)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

We’re more efficient.


12 posted on 06/27/2013 8:06:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The sad part is white Liberals are so stupid they don’t realize they are going to be the biggest losers if amnesty ever comes to pass.

The truth is Mexicans & Blacks are the biggest racist out there and they only vote for their own and there is no way they will ever let whites rule them.

Look at cities like Detroit, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC, etc they will never have anything but a Black Mayor ever again. Los Angles, San Antonio and Miami will never have anything but a Hispanic Mayor. Soon these cities won’t even have a single white on the city council or a white heading up any department or agency if they don’t already. There will even be cities that don’t even want whites as life guards (It’s happening now, see Phoenix)

If you’re a white no matter how good of a Liberal you are, because of your color you will be shut out and disenfranchised. Once the old white Liberal dies or retires, their spot forever goes to a minority. The same will soon happen on state levels like in California.

Worse for the White Liberal is sure Blacks & Mexicans love to vote for Progressive things as long as you keep the money flowing to them, but in reality they care little about the things white Liberals care about. They come from very Macho cultures and could give a flying fig about Feminism, Gay rights, Animal rights or the Environment.

If the Queers think old White Conservatives are evil for not letting them force their “Marriage” on everyone, just wait to see how they are treated when they are under a majority Mexican rule.

And ladies, I hope the free birth control Obama gives you is worth it, because all these immigrants aren’t going to be too keen on paying for the Social Security for a bunch of old white childless spinsters so they can sit around and throw birthday parties for their pets.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 8:11:06 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: EXCH54FE
You will be able to do nothing about it. Once the bill was presented, it was destined to become law. If not, millions WILL riot, I promise. They already see it as becoming law and ANY attempt to backtrack will lead to mass violence and nothing ANYONE tries to do will stop it.

Another important point. I tried to teach Spanish to fluency to U.S. students so they would have the linguistic skills to maintain supervisory/legislative/etc. control and they treated me very badly (disrespect). I am having trouble showing any kind of sympathy after that experience. One solution is for Americans to learn Spanish ASAP to be able to direct the labor force. If you don't companies WILL find people who can.

14 posted on 06/27/2013 8:11:11 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Graewoulf
Great list, need to add only one thing;

Mandatory E-verify system as part of #4

15 posted on 06/27/2013 8:11:33 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE

Ye Conservatives, come out from among them (the Republican Party) and be ye separate... Look ya’ll, they’re trying to castigate us anyway, let the R’s die a luke warm death. I will have nothing more to do with them, Sorry Rush... Ted Cruz the exception...


16 posted on 06/27/2013 8:11:34 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: EXCH54FE

The Republican party, as we many have known it, no longer exists. The very same communist progressives who completely destroyed the democrat party are well entrenched in the GOP and every agency of OUR government.

We have a government party of ruling elites with a imaginary left and right wing to make the owners of the government, us, think we have a choice. We don’t.

They exclude themselves from the laws we could never understand but must obey. They have a USSC which constantly excludes citizens as not having standing in the operations of OUR government.

Every time I hear we do not have standing in OUR Supreme Court, my blood boils and I hope to live long enough to see traitors charged and punished as such. I’d even pay to watch on Pay for View.


17 posted on 06/27/2013 8:13:13 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: qam1
If the Queers think old White Conservatives are evil for not letting them force their “Marriage” on everyone, just wait to see how they are treated when they are under a majority Mexican rule.

Ah, someone who KNOWS the culture. :)

18 posted on 06/27/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
One solution is for Americans to learn Spanish ASAP to be able to direct the labor force.

I've been saying: we all need to learn Spanish to talk to our employees and Mandarin to talk to our bosses. :)

19 posted on 06/27/2013 8:17:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: EXCH54FE

The idiot Republicans are putting a gun to their own heads and saying “trust us! We’re representing YOU!”.

Thanks, but no thanks morons. You’re toast and have lost my support after 30 years.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 8:21:51 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: EXCH54FE
This shouldn't be too complex for the D.C. geniuses: if you betray your party's base to pander to the opposition's base, they win, you lose.

Rube and Ryan don't understand this simple maxim.

21 posted on 06/27/2013 8:24:08 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Any aggressive movement to stop this bill from happening has to occur NOW. If we wait, then it will be too late. Rule of law will prevent ever going back on this, until we are outnumbered and then rule of law will not matter. We will get screwed because we play by the rules. The other side doesn’t. The only way out of this mess is to stop playing by the rules.

Someone said burn it down and start over. You can only do that when you control the matches. Wake up the matches are being removed from your hand. It must happen now.


22 posted on 06/27/2013 8:29:23 AM PDT by lynn4303
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To: Timber Rattler
Rube and Ryan don't understand this simple maxim.

Ergo - this is why the GOP is a loser on this issue. The RAT legal staff runs circles around the GOP's staff. Hewitt had John Hoven (holds MBA, not a lawyer) on for an interview about the fence yesterday and he said he listened to his lawyer who promised him the fence HAD to be built according to the Corker-Hoven Amendment. Hewitt tore him a new one. The sponsor of the bill and his staff do not even understand it, AND are trusting of Big Sis building the fence against all historic evidence to the contrary.
23 posted on 06/27/2013 8:32:23 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: EXCH54FE
I think the Republican party, at least as it is now, is doomed, and deservedly so. Its principal functionaries won't oppose aggressive opponents who respond to it by becoming more aggressive. That is not a strategy for survival.

The country survived the decline and fall of the Whigs, and it is likely to survive this, but the current Republican establishment is growing less and less likely to survive each successive election. I won't mourn it when it goes.

24 posted on 06/27/2013 8:37:13 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dead Corpse
We’re more efficient.

And we also have a whole lot more of other people's money to burn thru.


25 posted on 06/27/2013 8:38:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CincyRichieRich
What I can’t fathom is what is the secret reason the Republican sell outs want it? What do they get?

Neo-feudalism. Their bosses have promised them that they get to be part of the unaccountable ruling class, living in the lap of luxury, while the rest of us peons get the privilege of serving them. The White Christian Middle-class, with our demands for rights, guns, and prosperity, is to be done away with.

26 posted on 06/27/2013 8:38:39 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: EXCH54FE

27 posted on 06/27/2013 9:03:52 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: qam1

“..If you’re a white no matter how good of a Liberal you are, because of your color you will be shut out...”

This is just about the most insightful post on FR I have ever read.

To add to it - the above quote will apply to who gets hired by the new bloated federal bureaucracy. The “best” white liberals will not be hired for the job openings; the jobs will be going instead to less qualified (for the same position) “minorities” and the white liberals are too foolish to understand that is going to happen and will wonder why it happened.

Whites will be shut out of jobs - it’s going to get very ugly for all whites - and I am not racist. Rather I hate artificially engineered social “in”justice. All government hiring is going to be based on skin color in the near future; this is one of the reasons the dems in power now are so anxious to do away with ALL private enterprise. Then they will have complete control of hiring and they won’t be hiring white liberals or any whites.


28 posted on 06/27/2013 9:13:13 AM PDT by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: EXCH54FE

The article title has a hidden assumption that the Republican Party is going to survive if amnesty is defeated.

I have my doubts.


29 posted on 06/27/2013 9:18:10 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: EXCH54FE

We need to melt the phone lines of our Senators and Congressmen telling them to vote NO! on amnesty.

Also, call House Speaker Boehner’s number and tell him not to allow this monstrosity in the House. His number is: (202) 225-0600

Here’s a sample letter for email:

Dear Honorable US Senator ...,

Sir, I am extremely upset with this latest sham amnesty immigration bill the US Senate is currently debating.

Words cannot express my anger at the utter foolishness of this bill. Rewarding criminal behavior encourages more criminal behavior. People cannot begin their careers in America by breaking the law. Further, it hurts minimum wage American workers by causing them to compete with millions of foreign workers. by I am dismayed at those in Congress who lack the understanding of this critical issue to our nation.

I along with most other Americans are in favor of legal immigration for those who are willing to learn our language, culture, and invest the time and money required to become a U.S. citizen - but not for those who willfully break on our laws, spit on our country, demand benefits, and are not willing to go through proper channels to become an American citizen.

What is the solution? It won’t be easy because we didn’t get into this situation overnight. I believe we need to do the following immediately:

1) Secure our borders
2) Enforce existing law
3) Do not allow any amnesty provisions of any kind
4) Improve our visa system
5) Prosecute and fine those businesses which knowingly employ illegal workers
6) Give law enforcement officials the necessary resources and authority to combat illegal immigration
7) Deport illegal aliens violating the law after being fingerprinted, photographed, iris scanned, charged with a felony, and their information placed in a national database.
8) Send a bill for deportation/prison costs to the embassy of the illegal immigrant’s national origin.
9) 2nd time and thereafter repeat offenses by illegal aliens should be sent to work prison camps for a maximum of 6 months - building the southern fence/wall.
10) Seize and liquidate all assets from illegal aliens and use the proceeds for our military and local law enforcement.
11) Must not give illegal immigrants government welfare benefits of any kind, including Social Security
12) Designate English as our national language
13) Change the 14th Amendment regarding birthright citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants
14) Mandatory proof of citizenship for voting
15) Mandatory proof of legal status for DL or ANY government issued ID or benefits card
16) Put pressure on the Mexican government and other nations to reduce illegal immigration to America.
17) Encourage only legal immigration and citizenship to for those wanting to become Americans.

These ENFORCED changes would strengthen America greatly.

Please consider voting against this terrible legislation should it come before the full floor.

Sincerely and respectfully,


30 posted on 06/27/2013 9:27:21 AM PDT by Lions Gate
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To: EXCH54FE

A nation divided against itself cannot stand. Lincoln, quoting Jesus.
The first Republican’s words foreshadow the demise of his own party.
Profligate spending. Nonsense ‘carbon credits.’ Chiseling away at the 2nd. Homosexual ‘marriage.’ Peering into our computers. Intolerable taxation. Forsaking their primary duty of defending the nation from foreign threats.
Great nations are destroyed from within and it’s going on here now.
Fight for your country.


31 posted on 06/27/2013 9:31:16 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Graewoulf

B U M P


32 posted on 06/27/2013 10:38:50 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: sickoflibs; EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Tennessee Nana; Liz; ...

” One big driving force here is the Chamber of Commerce $$$ wing of GOP who own many of the GOP Senators, certainly the ~ 15 needed to get them ~70.”

This is the biggest problem to handle. All that COC money that buys the Republican Senators.


33 posted on 06/27/2013 10:41:58 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Bring on the riots!!

Let's just see where that goes!!

34 posted on 06/27/2013 10:55:27 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: sickoflibs; EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; GeronL; DoughtyOne
...and you wont win hispanics over with it either.

If I played Devil's Advocate for amnesty, I would argue that if we don't elect a GOP POTUS in 2016 (with the help af grateful Hispanics after amnesty), it's likely that Hillary would get to replace Scalia or Kennedy, both of whom would be 88 at the end of 8 years.

Just one little thing wrong with that. After the 1986 amnesty, the Hispanic share of the GOP vote went down from 37% in 1984 to 30% in 1988.

35 posted on 06/27/2013 11:08:39 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

” Just one little thing wrong with that. After the 1986 amnesty, the Hispanic share of the GOP vote went down from 37% in 1984 to 30% in 1988. “

Bingo


36 posted on 06/27/2013 11:13:59 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; GeronL; ...
RE :”If I played Devil's Advocate for amnesty, I would argue that if we don't elect a GOP POTUS in 2016 (with the help af grateful Hispanics after amnesty), it's likely that Hillary would get to replace Scalia or Kennedy, both of whom would be 88 at the end of 8 years.
Just one little thing wrong with that. After the 1986 amnesty, the Hispanic share of the GOP vote went down from 37% in 1984 to 30% in 1988. “

Even worse now because a Dem is POTUS and gets to sign it.

If this bill were to pass (or any bill with citizenship) into law Rubio has it set-up so he would be the only one to get any credit from Hispanics for it, no other GOP would. And most would credit Obama buts he's not running again

But now Rube has at least temporarily alienated conservatives over this by being so dishonest.

So we go into 2016 and he becomes the new ‘only electable’ candidate because some Hispanics will give him credit for compassion etc and vote for him. Like Romney was 'electable'.

Then 2016 its just like last year with Romney, although Rubio is a much smoother talker than Romney is. He is dangerous for sure.

Come on we have to pull together and defeat Hillary or she will will distroy this nation. I know you hate Rube but....
A Nation left to destroy after Obama??/"

37 posted on 06/27/2013 12:29:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz; ...

” Come on we have to pull together and defeat Hillary or she will will distroy this nation. I know you hate Rube but....”

A Nation left to destroy after Obama??/”

LOL....no cigar : )


38 posted on 06/27/2013 12:32:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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To: EXCH54FE

You right. If this atrocity passes we are looking at 30 million plus unknowns being put on a path to citizenship. They will destroy our national identity. No country can absorb the entire underclass of another nation the size of Mexico.

30 million Irish, Italian, English, Romanian, French, Chinese etc never immigrated here. No other ethinic group ever came here in those numbers. And when they did come they were not granted immediate welfare which will happen in this instance.


39 posted on 06/27/2013 12:42:04 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Maybe I should call my rep. (Alcee Hastings)

Surely he’ll listen to me /s

Just redistricted, my rep used to be dws.

I thought it couldn’t get worse.


40 posted on 06/27/2013 12:57:27 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

bump


41 posted on 06/27/2013 1:17:11 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; EXCH54FE; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3036419/posts


42 posted on 06/27/2013 1:30:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (The RINO/amnesty argument goes like this: 1) If we pander to Hispanics, we will save the GOP, at le)
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