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A Dagger at the Heart of Justice (Mark Steyn)
National Review Online ^ | July 12, 2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/12/2013 6:18:22 PM PDT by neverdem

The Zimmerman case has achieved its sublime reductio ad absurdum.

Just when I thought the George Zimmerman “trial” couldn’t sink any lower, the prosecutorial limbo dancers of the State of Florida magnificently lowered their own bar in the final moments of their cable-news celebrity. In real justice systems, the state decides what crime has been committed and charges somebody with it. In the Zimmerman trial, the state’s “theory of the case” is that it has no theory of the case: might be murder, might be manslaughter, might be aggravated assault, might be a zillion other things, but it’s something. If you’re a juror, feel free to convict George Zimmerman of whatever floats your boat...

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We have been warned that in the event of an acquittal there could be riots. My own feeling is that the Allegedly Reverend Al Sharpton, now somewhat emaciated and underbouffed from his Tawana Brawley heyday, is not the Tahrir Square–scale race-baiting huckster he once was. But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth. The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; marksteyn; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/12/2013 6:18:22 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: JLS

Ping


2 posted on 07/12/2013 6:19:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem
But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth.

Stop holding back, Mark! lol

3 posted on 07/12/2013 6:20:37 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: neverdem
There is an un-civil part of me that says,"Come on, punk, make my day." to the black community. It ignores the fact that there are blacks who desire nothing more than equal justice....and nothing less.

How can the black community at large condone and commit acts of lawlessness and still demand justice without the consequences falling upon them, too? I'm running low on sympathy.

Come on black America, show you've got what it takes to be a part of the citizenry. Your country needs you.

4 posted on 07/12/2013 6:32:12 PM PDT by stboz
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To: neverdem

If we only had a modern Cato to constantly remind us that “The Lies of Political Correctness must be destroyed”. PC is far stronger than Carthage ever was.


5 posted on 07/12/2013 6:35:57 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: neverdem

Thank you Governor Scott and AG Pam Bondi you have turned Florida’s justice system into a Monty Python show. We will remember!


6 posted on 07/12/2013 6:36:24 PM PDT by DeWalt
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To: neverdem
The media says this trayvon thing is important and to forget the Amnesty bill, the IRS scandal etc.

And even here, on hannity ,etc,, all fall for it.

The news media created this whole thing.the media never report on any blacks killing whites, no home invasions nothing but this wasn't even a crime , not even a local story the media made into something everyone is thinking and talking aout. ditto about the newtown shooting. both of these the main reason is to take away our gun rights. and we all play along , even steyn, giving attention to it. who says the media doesn't control everything?

7 posted on 07/12/2013 6:38:38 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: DeWalt

At least the Monty Python Show had some redeeming social value.


8 posted on 07/12/2013 6:39:29 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: neverdem

Call it “dart board” justice.


10 posted on 07/12/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: stboz

They are like Muslims.


11 posted on 07/12/2013 6:42:25 PM PDT by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: neverdem

The judge is a pathetic glory-hunter dreaming of higher office and a fatter paycheck.

Her ignorance of the law, inability to organize a handful of people and transparent attempts to bluff her way through has placed her at the front of this parade of villains.

I remain angry and dismayed that we even know about this case but if it has to serve as a fulcrum point for changing this corrupt system it may serve some small purpose.


12 posted on 07/12/2013 6:44:19 PM PDT by relictele (A community vigilant in enforcing economic, racial and social equality. It was called Jonestown.)
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To: neverdem

Finally, a riot I can support.


13 posted on 07/12/2013 6:45:02 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

14 posted on 07/12/2013 6:45:38 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: neverdem
they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth.

Hear! Hear!

When I was in HS in Longwood in the 60s, we used to joke about a Sanford girl who would supposedly drop her panties for a pound of balogna.

I haven't been through or in Sanford in decades, but it sounds like it hasn't progressed much.

But, as sucky as central Florida is (and it does indeed suck), I honestly think that this would have played out the same way in many other parts of the country. The race hustlers would not have it otherwise; nor would our "post racial president" and his racist sycophants in the MSM; nor would our gutless pandering politicians like Rick Scott.

15 posted on 07/12/2013 6:46:39 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: neverdem
Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears Bears (repeating)

But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth. The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over.

16 posted on 07/12/2013 6:47:05 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: DeWalt

I know that I will. I voted for both them. It is a mistake that I will not make again.


17 posted on 07/12/2013 6:48:34 PM PDT by sport
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To: neverdem

Mark Steyn at his best.


18 posted on 07/12/2013 6:48:51 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: yarddog

From the article:

“at the federal level there is a conviction rate of over 90 percent”...

This is actually approaching the levels of Soviet-era “show trials”, where everyone involved, including the defendant, knew what the outcome of the trial would be well in advance of stepping into the courtroom. Really disturbing.


19 posted on 07/12/2013 6:51:33 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: neverdem

I’m just dumbfounded that a prosecutor can bring a new charge at the conclusion of a trial.


20 posted on 07/12/2013 6:52:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: relictele

The anger of a mob burns hot for an hour and is quenched by its own foolishness. The anger of a wronged citizenry burns cold and lasts until the object of its hatred is destroyed.


21 posted on 07/12/2013 6:57:06 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: neverdem

When I read Steyn, I automatically hear it in my head with his voice and accent. LOL


22 posted on 07/12/2013 6:57:11 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: neverdem
The defining characteristic of English law is its distribution of power between prosecutor, judge, and jury. This delicate balance has been utterly corrupted in the United States to the point where today at the federal level there is a conviction rate of over 90 percent — which would impress Mubarak and the House of Saud, if not quite, yet, Kim Jong Un.

We're heading toward totalitarian government in more ways than one.

23 posted on 07/12/2013 7:00:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: windsorknot

Probably NOT!


24 posted on 07/12/2013 7:01:57 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: neverdem

25 posted on 07/12/2013 7:02:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: The Antiyuppie

One day I had a couple of hours to kill and noticed it was trial day so decided to sit and watch a series of child support cases. At the end I was so disgusted that I don’t think that court even came up to the standard of a Kangaroo Kourt.

There were six female lawyers representing the Mothers. The young men, often with their families with them were just declared guilty by those lawyers. They would not even listen to the Fathers except to say something like “that doesn’t mean anything” when what he had was papers from the same state which was prosecuting him saying that he didn’t owe anything. The judge didn’t do anything. He just accepted whatever these state lawyers told him..

Absolutely criminal behaviors by the system.

“We Must Destroy All PC Lies”


26 posted on 07/12/2013 7:03:23 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: neverdem

I don’t really think this Prosecutor wants Z to be convicted. He knows it is a bad job and he has no actual material to work with. The only witness willing to commit actual perjury, and it cannot be proved against her, is T.s mother who stands to make a magnificent Payday from it all with a book that is already partially written for her, endless speeches and paid appearances and, of course a big civil trial payout. She has already gotten a fat settlement from the HOA and will sue them from some slightly different angle as will as,will tryto suethe homeowners individually. That is for a conviction, An acquittal will not leave her bereft of big money either as she will then sue and help the Left make tremendous political hay against the Prosecutor and the Department, and whomever else might be peripheral here.


27 posted on 07/12/2013 7:03:31 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's EcThomics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: neverdem
If, for the purposes of American show trials, an Hispanic who voted for a black president can be instantly transformed into a white racist, there’s no reason why he can’t be a child abuser, too.

People in Florida are nuts... really.

28 posted on 07/12/2013 7:03:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Department of Justice organized rallies against George Zimmerman.)
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To: GOPJ
People in Florida are nuts... really.

Correction: it's the people in Washington.

29 posted on 07/12/2013 7:10:54 PM PDT by Misterioso (It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing - Duke Ellington)
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To: windsorknot
At least the Monty Python Show had some redeeming social value.

Yeah, at least the MPS was a comedy, however raunchy.

The Debra Nelson Talent Show is a travesty.

This is going to become a BGI cult favorite, sort of like the Rocky Horror Picture Show was to the transvestites and stupid collegiates of the '70s.

30 posted on 07/12/2013 7:11:26 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: neverdem
... the prosecutorial limbo dancers of the State of Florida magnificently lowered their own bar in the final moments of their cable-news celebrity.

Mr. Steyn, you are a treasure.

31 posted on 07/12/2013 7:11:49 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: autumnraine
When I read Steyn, I automatically hear it in my head with his voice and accent. LOL

Mark would undoubtedly take that as a compliment.

A good writer strives to write it as he would say it. It should read as it would be spoken.

In fact, if I am not mistaken, Mark doesn't "write" his articles. He dictates them to a steno.

32 posted on 07/12/2013 7:13:38 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: neverdem
I see I'm not the first to note this remarkably incisive Steynism:

"But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth. The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over."

33 posted on 07/12/2013 7:22:03 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: yarddog

Having represented fathers in those child support courts a few years back, I can tell you that those female lawyers would absolutely crap themselves if they ever met any real opposition. Now, you do have to get the obese lesbian “judge” or “referee” to actually wake up and listen, and it helps if your client remains utterly silent until prompted. I once showed up with a client who had over 4 years worth of evidence he had paid. The mamma testified that he had never made a single payment. No, she was not punished for perjury. The “prosecutor” would not drop it beforehand, so we sat there and rather slowly entered over 50 identical items into evidence. I took great pleasure in ruining their docket that day. You are right, a Kangaroo Kourt would be an improvement.


34 posted on 07/12/2013 7:22:41 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: neverdem

Obama and his regime shipping in troublemakers should be grounds enough for his impeachment and immediate removal!


35 posted on 07/12/2013 7:26:28 PM PDT by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: The Antiyuppie; Moonman62

Made much easier when the State/gov’t, having unlimited cash flow, can bankrupt the defendant whom tries to keep the family in their house, SOME $$ still in the bank, etc. if only to cop a plea to make the misery/harassment just END.

Let’s not even start the discussion re: impossible bail amounts or the ‘speedy’ trial (the Z case taking ~1yr!?....who could survive in prison that long, waiting, and still have anything left when they are finally ‘freed’)

Want to see some wailing and heads explode, propose FREE lawyers. Anymore they are as ‘needed’ as doctors, right? :)


36 posted on 07/12/2013 7:29:14 PM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: logitech

Great Steyn PING!


37 posted on 07/12/2013 7:47:32 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: cdcdawg

A few years ago, I got a timeout on FR for expressing my sentiments about family court judges in Indiana.

If only I had heard about Cordell & Cordell, back in the day.


38 posted on 07/12/2013 8:02:40 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: neverdem

“The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over.”

I don’t like riots but other than that, oh yeah!

Some days I feel like this country as founded...is dead.


39 posted on 07/12/2013 8:06:46 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: PhiloBedo

back when I was lawyering, there was one local guy who was starting to specialize in representing fathers/husbands. He was beginning to get a really thriving practice going. A lot of feminist lawyers get into family law, and it has had an enormous effect on every aspect of the field. They just aren’t going to cry/try as much for their male clients. Plus, nobody wants to deal with them. They say/do things that would get a male attorney punched by opposing counsel, or thrown in jail by a judge. Again, actual opposition makes a big difference. Many are used to the guy just rolling over.


40 posted on 07/12/2013 8:21:40 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg

They just aren’t going to cry/try as much for their male clients. Plus, nobody wants to deal with them.


I tried a high profile female attorney, at one point, and it was as you say. What a waste of money. As far as advocating for me, she was worthless.


41 posted on 07/12/2013 8:39:31 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: upchuck

That was my favorite phrase in this article too!


42 posted on 07/12/2013 8:49:15 PM PDT by livius
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To: arthurus
I don’t really think this Prosecutor wants Z to be convicted. He knows it is a bad job and he has no actual material to work with.

If you're speaking of Bernie De La Rosa, you would be wrong. He has the reputation of sending more people to Florida's Death Row than any other DA in the state. Such a DA is cut-throat competitive to the max, and *really* dislikes losing a case. He would love a conviction, especially under the weak evidence he was actually given to work with.

The state of Florida cravenly gave Sharpton, Shabazz, and Company what they demanded, an arrest, and a murder trial. They even gave the race baiters the toughest DA in the state to prosecute their demanded trial. They got what they demanded, and I hope, that in the process, they lost what they really wanted all along...

the infowarrior

43 posted on 07/12/2013 8:52:27 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: GOPJ; neverdem

Z should a took his $150k and left town. Pi$$ on our so called criminal justice system.


44 posted on 07/12/2013 9:01:34 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: imardmd1
Re: “Stupid collegiates of the ‘70s.”

We weren't stupid.

We were stoned.

45 posted on 07/12/2013 9:30:58 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: okie01

Re: “Mark doesn’t “write” his articles. He dictates them.”

Earle Stanley Gardner dictated all 82 of his “Perry Mason” novels.


46 posted on 07/12/2013 9:38:57 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: cdcdawg

I had an ex lie on the witness stand. I also had a document from the state AG showing I owed no child support. The judge ordered me to settle. I ended up paying $8,000.


47 posted on 07/12/2013 9:48:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: infowarrior

I always hope people like the DA get theirs one day. I hope there comes a time when someone sucker punches his ass then climbs on top and pummels him. And the whole time I hope he’s thinking about Zimmerman.


48 posted on 07/12/2013 9:52:55 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: The Antiyuppie

The difference here in the Zimmerman trial is that clearly the members of the defense are not yet bought out by the state, as perhaps some lazy or overloaded Public Defenders might be.


49 posted on 07/12/2013 10:43:38 PM PDT by imardmd1
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

me too


50 posted on 07/12/2013 10:47:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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