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Guns don’t belong in places of worship (Illiinois barf alert)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 17 july 2013

Posted on 07/17/2013 5:45:59 AM PDT by rellimpank

Houses of worship don’t just accommodate religious gatherings. They also are places where deeply troubled people come to get help. If for no other reason than that, they should be off limits to guns.

Unfortunately, a state law rushed through in the closing days of the spring legislative session that allows the concealed carrying of guns also makes it legal to bring those firearms into places of worship. That’s an alarming prospect that needs to be rectified as quickly as possible.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; church; guncontrol; rkba; secondamendment
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To: rellimpank

Guns belong there far more than “Gad Damn America!” as Obama’s pastor said repeatedly.

Guns belong there far more than the racism that is seen in Chicago churches.

Guns belong in there far more than the support for abortion that has been in there.

Guns belong in there far more than the support for homosexuality, a sexual deviancy, that has been in there.


21 posted on 07/17/2013 6:20:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: rellimpank

Two words.

“Jeanne Assam”.


22 posted on 07/17/2013 6:23:37 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: rellimpank
They also are places where deeply troubled people come to get help. If for no other reason than that, they should be off limits to guns.

Ah... does anyone else catch the inherent assumption here?
If there's a law, a rule or a sign, a "deeply troubled person" would not bring a gun in to a church for nefarious reasons.

23 posted on 07/17/2013 6:25:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rellimpank

My church has armed security but does not allow firearms by members or visitors. I am okay with that. All it takes is one nutbag to open fire and you have a major tragedy in a place where people come for quiet reflection.

I am not so much worried about Christians with guns as much as I am worried about Christian-haters who may try to commit mayhem and evil against members of the church.

As an usher, we are trained to keep our eyes open to suspicious behavior and we are instructed to find a security guard if there appears to be a threatening situation.

Outside the church, I’m all for concealed carry but there are some places I’m okay with leaving the guns in the cars and relying on professional security for that two hours. In an auditorium-type situation I think an amateur with a gun is just as likely to hit the wrong person as they are to hit the perp.


24 posted on 07/17/2013 6:26:01 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: MrB

ah... I guess most of you DID catch that.


25 posted on 07/17/2013 6:26:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rellimpank

Our policy is no open carry, but we do have people (especially ushers) that DO closed carry, with the approval of the church. Recall the incident at New Life Church in Colorado in which a female parishioner DID stop a guy who had already killed some people in the parking lot and then entered the church to make a “bigger statement.”


26 posted on 07/17/2013 6:30:39 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: rellimpank

ditto, there are several places you are a sitting duck if some one opens fire, schools and churches being among them.

There are places in Memphis I would not go unarmed. Went to pick blackberries from the house we are selling there, and I felt darn uncomfortable not having my gun, but as I was going to the Military base after, I could not carry it.


27 posted on 07/17/2013 6:30:58 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: GailA

Guns belong everywhere there is a possibility that ferals, whack-o’s or degenerates might accost you and your family. Everywhere! The 2nd Amendment didn’t limit “where”. What’s wrong with these anti-2nd-Amendment pinhead morons? Are they asshat moonbats...or what?


28 posted on 07/17/2013 6:34:21 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rellimpank

Sometimes I read the article, want to comment and see all of the other FReeper comments and think to myself “couldn’t have said it better myself”. God bless all of you. Onward Christian soldiers!


29 posted on 07/17/2013 6:34:56 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: rellimpank

“Guns don’t belong in places of worship “

And neither do people who are hell-bent on robbing, assaulting or murdering anyone. But people of such a mindset are not restrained by the laws we have to forbid such things let alone the place they choose to commit their crimes. That is why people have a need of self-defense no matter where they are.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 6:36:16 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: rellimpank

This A$$ Wagon has never been in a church. He is more worried about all the emotionally unstable people that go to church (in his opinion) than he is of the all the evil people outside the church that hate religious people.


31 posted on 07/17/2013 6:38:25 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Thane_Banquo
The stupid is strong with this one. He both managed to introduce a non-sequitir and anthropomorphize an inanimate object ("off limits to guns") in the same opening sentence.

That's my kind of humor. lol

32 posted on 07/17/2013 6:39:25 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: BipolarBob
He’s making the case to carry but is too dumb to realize it.

They need to pass laws to keep this Brain Fart out of churches.

33 posted on 07/17/2013 6:40:34 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: PowderMonkey
That’s why my pastor has to keep an armed protective agent at his side throughout worship service, with others stationed throughout the church. The congregation is fully capable to taking care of itself as well.

You must go to church in either Chicago or Faluja.

34 posted on 07/17/2013 6:42:57 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: paint_your_wagon
And grocery stores are where deeply troubled people go to get food.

... And government buildings where deeply troubled people are elected and empowered.

35 posted on 07/17/2013 6:45:35 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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To: Tenacious 1

A small town Baptist Church in Daingerfield, Texas a few years back had a person walk in the back door and shot several people. There were no carriers in the congregation and he had easy pickings.


36 posted on 07/17/2013 6:47:53 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: rellimpank
Some get it right.



37 posted on 07/17/2013 6:53:41 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: rellimpank

It should be up to the Church as to whether firearms are allowed on the premesis and who is allowed to carry them.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 6:54:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: rellimpank
Let the church decide for itself! Let the congregation decide for themselves if they want to go there!

We, the people, do NOT need spooge from GuvCo telling US what's best.

"He can't even run his own life. I'll be damned if he'll run mine!"

Weird how those who used to sing the protest songs of the 60s and early 70s are now the ones in control telling everybody else what to do (while they themselves do something else).

39 posted on 07/17/2013 6:57:50 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: rellimpank

Wait until they find out there are whips, flails, and clubs in some of the Stations of the Cross depictions.


40 posted on 07/17/2013 7:01:05 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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