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Flat tax? Sales tax? Value-added tax? (What's your preferred tax fix?)
Washington Times ^ | 07/17/2013 | Richard Rahn

Posted on 07/17/2013 6:56:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

What type of tax reform do you want? Simplification of the existing progressive income tax system? A flat tax? A sales tax? A value-added tax?

Tax professionals, economists, elected officials and others heatedly debate the pros and cons of each. However, it is unlikely that real tax reform will occur until the financial crisis gets so bad that most people will agree to radical change.

Most tax reform discussions and debates lead with the premise that any new tax system has to raise roughly as much revenue as the present system. Why should that be? Currently, the federal government spends about 23 percent of gross domestic product, and state and local governments spend approximately another 15 percent net of federal transfers. In 1948, federal and state governments spent roughly half as much of GDP as they do today. A hundred years ago, total government spending was less than 9 percent of GDP, and most was at the local level.

Evidence indicates that total government spending is at least twice as high as it should be to maximize job creation, economic growth and the general welfare. Assume the United States has accumulated so much debt that bond buyers will no longer buy U.S. government bonds. Also assume that the present income tax structure has collapsed because of its size and complexity or that the Supreme Court returns to first principles and limits the federal government to doing only what is in the Constitution, leaving the rest to the states or the people (as specified by the 10th Amendment).

Either way, the federal government might be forced to cut its real spending in half or more from today’s 23 percent of GDP to the 1948 level of 12 percent. Under such conditions, what type of tax system should be set up?

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The author's preference?

A GASOLINE TAX.

WHY?

There is almost a perfect correlation between the amount of road use and the tax. Bigger and more road-damaging vehicles and those who drive more miles use more gasoline — almost the perfect user fee. Rather than using revenues from an income tax (economically destructive, costly to administer and liberty-destroying) to support government, why not use more excise taxes and user fees?

1 posted on 07/17/2013 6:56:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Either way, the federal government might be forced to cut its real spending in half or more from today’s 23 percent of GDP to the 1948 level of 12 percent.

Anyone who thinks that's going to happen is kidding themselves.

2 posted on 07/17/2013 6:58:18 AM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: SeekAndFind

In theory, I want a flat tax. But given where we are, I’m leaning more and more toward a national sales tax. We have way too many people who pay nothing and don’t feel the pain of demanding more and more government spending. Everyone should pay something.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 6:58:45 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The Fair Tax.
It taxes consumption rather than production. It ends the IRS and takes away the power the of the gub’mint to manipulate taxes for their own gain.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

100% tax on SNAP, WICs, EITC, Section 8, TANF and the other 85 other entitlement programs.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

The reality is we’ll probably get all of the above, as the ‘Rats transform the US into a state that takes everything and returns to us what they see we need.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sola NRST. All other national taxes illegal.

Anything that taxes income is immoral and counterproductive.
Income is a measure of what you provide to the economy.

Spending is a measure of what you consume from that economy.


7 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

I never thought I would say this, but since half of Americans don’t pay ANY income tax, I would favor a tax on consumption.... a sales tax.

.... as long as all of the income redistribution (Earned Income Tax Credit, etc) goes away in the deal.


8 posted on 07/17/2013 7:00:27 AM PDT by Alex in chains
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To: SeekAndFind
We, in WA state, already have an unreasonable high gas tax. All of it doesn't go to the roads. The pols have siphoned off a mil here and a mil there to pay for extraneous crap they deem necessary. Same with the cigarette and other sin taxes.

A flat tax is the way to go, that is all God wants. But, safeguards have to put in so it can't be raised.

Then the beauorcrats (sp) need to be gotten rid of to reduce regulations, or eliminate them altogether.

9 posted on 07/17/2013 7:01:34 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: C210N

It would only be a national sales tax on top of what we have now. There will be no real reform with rampaging marxists in power.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 7:03:31 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: SeekAndFind

“Bigger and more road-damaging vehicles” do not pay nearly enough and are the primary reason our roads are often in such poor shape. The gasoline tax should be progressive when it comes to vehicle weight.


11 posted on 07/17/2013 7:04:30 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Excise taxes, tariffs and possibly a capitation tax as defined in the original Constitution to pay for the military and essential government functions.

I don't mind sin taxes either but just enough to offset societal problem costs.

12 posted on 07/17/2013 7:05:15 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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To: SeekAndFind

10% sales tax all goods except food and cloths under $100.
Income, estate, and cap gains taxes made unconstitutional.
Simple.


13 posted on 07/17/2013 7:05:22 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: SeekAndFind

Cutting spending


14 posted on 07/17/2013 7:05:27 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

No income tax. Do away w the 16th and 17th amendments. Put us back on track to a Constitutional limited government.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 7:05:48 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: SeekAndFind

How do you tax non-gasoline or diesel powered vehicles?................


16 posted on 07/17/2013 7:06:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: SeekAndFind

None of them are going to make anyone happy until the government spending is cut by at least two thirds.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 7:06:43 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Little Ray

Ditto!
Fair Tax!


18 posted on 07/17/2013 7:07:09 AM PDT by griswold3
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To: babble-on

RE: Cutting spending

And that’s going to get the IRS off our backs?


19 posted on 07/17/2013 7:07:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Lower *all* current tax rates and pass a Constitutional Amendment requiring 1) that a two thirds vote of both houses of Congress be required to increase the rate of any Federal tax and 2) require that everyone in the country with a gross income of over $500 (which can be adjusted annually using the same formula used with SS payments) must file a return and pay *some* tax (even if it's only $10).

No representation without taxation!

20 posted on 07/17/2013 7:07:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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