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Could the Zimmerman Trial Be a Clever Trick To Repeal the Second Amendment (Abolish Gun Rights)

Posted on 07/17/2013 8:27:30 AM PDT by pinochet

A lawyer friend of mine suspects that the Zimmerman trial is a clever trick that has been designed by cunning liberals to strip Americans of their second amendment rights. You all remember Clinton's legalisms in 1998, saying that what happened between him and Monica Lewinsky did not meet the strict legal definition of sex.

According to my lawyer friend, it is easy for sneaky liberals to interpret the second amendment as giving Americans the right to own arms, but not the right to use them. Liberals may have figured out that going door-to-door to confiscate guns is too much trouble. You can just pass a series of laws, and interpret them in such a manner that makes the use of guns illegal. A gun will have no more usefulness than a piece of furniture. In many jurisdictions, it is illegal to fire a gun on a neighborhood, even if nobody gets hurt.


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To: pinochet
Gun control is the sole reason for this political circus. It's why the federal mouthpieces keep going on an on about stand your ground law even though it was never considered in the Zimmerman case.

Before stand your ground can be invoked, there has to be a corresponding ability to LEAVE your ground, and Zimmerman never had that option because he was pinned TO the ground, and had no way to retreat from it.

Zimmerman and other cases that may be like it are just stepping stones, and they only have to last long enough to get one step closer to their goal...the eradication of private firearms.

Just my 2 cents.

21 posted on 07/17/2013 8:55:26 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

more dependent AND non-resistant.

There are several reasons they want disarmament.


22 posted on 07/17/2013 8:55:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cicero

+1 for working “backfired” into the conversation.

I’ll say it again, and I know it’s tinfoil hat stuff, the February combination of wall to wall 24/7 gun crimes (Christopher Dorner / LAPD, Alabama guy in the bunker with kidnapped 7-year-old, South African sprinter killed his girlfriend, King Of The Snipers shot at gun range) while Congress and various states were rushing gun control laws just doesn’t seem like a random coincidence to me.


23 posted on 07/17/2013 8:55:30 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: pinochet
No it's not!

What do liberals think the word "Bear" means?

-PJ

24 posted on 07/17/2013 8:56:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: pinochet

The dead the it’s grandmother: Barras’ grandmother, Mary Dolan, stated: “It’s not fair that the farmer has got all the money and he is the one that took Fred away.”


25 posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:23 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: pinochet

This ain’t britton


26 posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:26 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: cripplecreek
Exactly. The fact that Holder says we have a "Duty to retreat" says that he doesn't think we have any right to defend ourselves at all.

That's right, the only recourse we have is to report the incident to the Gestapo!

27 posted on 07/17/2013 8:59:02 AM PDT by varon (Down with tyranny)
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To: piytar
The dead the it’s grandmother: Barras’ grandmother, Mary Dolan, stated: “It’s not fair that the farmer has got all the money and he is the one that took Fred away.”

What? Wrong thread?

28 posted on 07/17/2013 8:59:10 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: pinochet

Much like DOJ’s lawsuit against BMW in south Carolina where background checks (for employment) reflect disproportionately on negros ,so do the background checks for firearm ownership. I can almost hear Holder’s twisted logic now.


29 posted on 07/17/2013 8:59:41 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: pinochet

This whole charade has been a smokescreen to inflame racial hatred by blacks, push against self protections and the 2ndA, and the left wing’s use of the Pity Party in an attempt to get their childish ways

This was NEVER about “justice” Anyone with a brain (which excludes leftists) knew this wasn’t a case from the get-go.


30 posted on 07/17/2013 9:00:29 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (LEAVE THE ZIMMERMANS ALONE . . . NOT guilty . . .you LOST Now SHUT UP)
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To: pinochet

If they could not achieve this with a school full of dead children, one dead punk in some Florida subdivision ain’t gonna do it for them.


31 posted on 07/17/2013 9:00:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sender

They’re too clever to try to actually repeal it. The trick is to do what DC and Chicago and CA have been doing and trying to do — make it so difficult to get a permit, require expensive “liability insurance”, require expensive “microstamping” of individual bullets, outlaw lead, eliminate Stand Your Ground and other defenses of actually using your gun, etc., that it is “repealed” in all but name.


32 posted on 07/17/2013 9:01:04 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: piytar

Got iPhoned. Meant “theif’s grandmother.”


33 posted on 07/17/2013 9:01:21 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Yeah, the 2nd dosent say to keep arms. Bearing arms means shooting as well so any attempt, to include ammo restrictions would infringe.


34 posted on 07/17/2013 9:02:33 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: pinochet

The goal of the Zimmerman trial has always been to eliminate the right of citizens to defend themselves.

They talk as if it was about racism or ‘stand your ground’ but that’s not true.

A weapon of any kind is useless if you can’t use it to defend yourself.


35 posted on 07/17/2013 9:04:04 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in in a long time I am proud of my country.)
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To: Menehune56

No, right thread. That is a quote from the wiki article linked by the OP in the first comment.


36 posted on 07/17/2013 9:04:07 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MrB

Yep, a disarmed people are a compliant people.


37 posted on 07/17/2013 9:04:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: CrappieLuck

The sad reality is that the government has become GOD.


38 posted on 07/17/2013 9:05:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: pinochet

You need to flesh out your theory a bit more. You failed to make a point.


39 posted on 07/17/2013 9:07:07 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Old Sarge

Ping for a read.


40 posted on 07/17/2013 9:07:42 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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