Skip to comments.New Poll: Mike Enzi crushing Liz Cheney
Posted on 07/19/2013 9:42:28 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
Full results at the link. He's up by 34 points.
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Polls this far out are mostly meaningless.
It’s early, but I doubt the end result will be any different. Just smaller margin.
There are campgrounds in and around Yellowstone during the summer which have more people than some county seats.
Good. She’s running in a state where she doesn’t belong because her chances of winning would be better, not because it will help the conservative cause.
From what I’ve heard about Mike Enzi, he’s not perfect, but a lot better than Liz Cheney.
She’s only running for the Senate there because she thinks she’s entitled. It’s her turn.
Why doesn’t she run in a state that she’s from or at least knows about?
Why are you running against an incumbent conservative Republican US Senator wasting needless resources and causing needless division?
Don’t you think you could help further the cause by going after the DEMOCRATS instead?
I really cannot think of a reason to support him or her.
Other than the issue pertaining to the Internet tax, I’m not sure what beef GOPers should have with Enzi. With Cheney, much as I like her on many other matters, that affinity for homosexual marriage is a non-starter for me.
Liz Cheney is nuts. According to this poll, Enzi’s favorables are 76% vs. 6% unfavorables and she thinks she can beat him?
Cheney should run in the state she was born in and against a Democrat. We don’t need a bye, we need a win.
Liz Cheney is one of our best potential stars. Why the heck are people beating her up here? She has the same fearlessness her dad has in going after our opponents. Enzi is a fine guy, too, but why the heck do we pile up our own people?
Not as many broke-back cowboys in Wyoming as she thought?
Couldn't she please come to Virginia and run against THIS?
Shes running in a state where she doesnt belong because her chances of winning would be better, not because it will help the conservative cause.
I don’t want any Bushes, Cheneys or Clintons in power ANYWHERE.
In Wyoming, we’re not that far out. The winner of the GOP primary in August, 2014, has a very strong chance of winning the November election.
Furthermore, if Dave Freudenthal (former Democratic governor of Wyoming) runs in the 2014 senate election, there’s a real contest. Meaning that the winner of the GOP primary has to have enough money and support left to beat Dave in the general election.
Unlike most other Democrats in Wyoming, Dave is a) very popular, b) knows the issues very well, c) has a sound head on his shoulders. He’s shown more balls in taking on the federal government on land, water and wildlife issues than most of the GOP field.
If Dave wins the DNC primary and is running for Enzi’s seat next fall, I’d predict that if Cheney somehow won the primary, she’d cost the GOP the seat because she’s utterly ignorant of the local issues in Wyoming. And living in Jackson will cement the stereotype she’s creating as a rich carpet bagger parachuting in from DC.
She’s great as a talking head and quick on her feet on TV.
She doesn’t know jack about the state issues. She’s not in the front of any crowd of potential best GOP candidates at this point.
What state is this, and what office is the contest for, and when are the elections to be held? Other than that, it was an excellent post.
Define “our” ? She’s a creature of the party establishment and is outright leftist on gay marriage. That’s a non-starter. She’s also moving to a state she hasn’t lived in since a kid (30 years) to try to buy a Senate seat all because she is too timid to run from a state (Virginia) she has lived in for years. She has no business running in Wyoming.
Because she is running for what reason exactly?? to replace an already good conservative so she can “get” a seat.
To me that speaks volumes about her character.
show me some REAL guts, run in VA against a Dem or Rino...
not just “its my turn cause I am Cheneys daughter”!
having lived in Wyo my whole life... she is toast. A true fools gold there. simply selfish pride.
She was born in Wisconsin, but her ties there are as tenuous as her ties to Wyoming are. Virginia would have been more appropriate, but she'd have to run a real race there.
Republicans in general are disgusted and sickened by the idea of homosexual “marriage”. IMO, without this bizarre capitulation by Liz, it would be a close race. I would vote for her, that’s for sure, if this were MY choice. Bob
Do you suppose Freudenthal is waiting to see how the GOP race is going before committing? I assume that if he's up against Enzi then he'd have to be considered a long-shot?
Iv’e always liked Liz. She usually comes down solidly on the right side of the issue and she will bring it as far as getting on TV and presenting the conservative view. I have never even heard of Enzi. We need more in your face on TV types like Cruz and Paul.
I, too, am taken aback not only by the vicious attacks on her, but on her supporters in this forum as well.
Have you been on a desert island for the last week? Liz Cheney announced she's running for senate from Wyoning and challenging Mike Enzi in the primary.
So what has Enzi done to fight the homosexual agenda?
Yes. If Dave tries to run against Enzi, he’d probably lose, barring any slip-up by Enzi between now and then.
If Enzi were to lose to Cheney, then Dave would probably jump in the race, because only a few debates aired on public TV or on radio stations across the state will show who knows their buttocks from a warm rock on any sunny day in Wyoming. Dave would walk away with any debate.
Cheney might have chops in international affairs, but people in Wyoming, by and large, don’t give a rat’s rear end about foreign affairs just now. Wyomingites have sent enough of their young people off to wars for the neo-con’s causes that they’re tired of it. What’s on people’s mind right now is Obama’s “war on coal” and the ruinous increase in electric rates it would cause.
I’m a retired EE, I know a little bit about power generation, tariffs and power distribution, and when I’ve heard Dave speak on the subject, I’ve been blown away with his competence and articulation of actual facts. Get into a discussion of windmills vs. coal plants in Wyoming, and you will quickly find out that Dave Freudenthal knows his stuff. Get into a discussion of hunting, wildlife management, wolf management and so on - and you quickly find out that Dave knows his stuff. Get into a discussion of business in the state, gas/coal/oil receipts, farm prices, cattle numbers... and you find out Dave knows his stuff.
I’m being quite serious here. I’d long since written off most politicians of both parties as dumb, inbred Ivy League grifters when we moved to Wyoming. The first time I heard Dave on a local AM radio show, I was impressed. He made himself available once a month for an *hour* on a local radio station, and he made time to talk on lots of local AM radio stations in Wyoming. People could call in and talk directly to the governor of the state, on the air. They got *answers* to their questions. It is retail politics at its finest, and Dave knows the facts cold, so he can do it.
Cheney would be utterly wiped out by Dave Freudenthal. Just utterly destroyed.
Enzi better be careful. Crossing the wrong people makes you tend to explode your car. /sarc (sort of)
Guess they don’t care for carpetbaggers.
If I were, your post would be scant help in catching me up. That’s all I’m saying.
She has a right to run. Enzi is not entitled to this job. Heck, he’s been there for 16 years. Anybody that has been in Washington that long needs to be challenged just to keep them honest. Let them fight it out and see if he deserves to keep his job.
The Republican Party has grown stagnant. Our leaders pursue old ideas. They have grown comfortable with Washingtons paternalism and have become convinced the problem is Democrats in charge and not government itself. They talk of small government, but they often do not practice what they preach. Even if Cheney loses, Enzi needs to understand that he has to start putting points on the board instead of just expecting our support because of the R next to his name.
Listening to Mark Levin last night and he praised Liz Cheney, what the hell is the “great one” thinking????
I am thinking of downgrading him to the “Slightly better one”.....
You have to wonder just what is going through that woman's head. Does she honestly thing that she can breeze into the state and spout that "My heart has always been in Wyoming" crap and expect people to look at her like a long lost relative? Is she looking at a senate seat as an extension of her punditry and doesn't think she'll have to actually work at the nation's business? Or has she just been in DC so long she's completely lost touch with the rest of the planet? I'm in central Nebraska and I doubt that the folks here are a whole lot different than the average Wyoming resident, and everyone thinks "If she tried that stunt here she'd be laughed out of the state". And our senator is not only retiring but is a shade less conservative than Enzi is.
This is not surprising. I have lived and worked in many rural parts of the country and the one thing that trumps everything else in the dislike column for locals, is “outsiders” showing up and telling them how to do things. She is obviously seen as an outsider trying to tell the people of Wyoming they were wrong to elect their Senator — fail.
Great question for Liz. Enzi's is a safe seat, and he's mostly a good conservative. So why on earth did she decide to pick this needless fight?
Anyway, we don't need another GOP vote for homo "marriage".
Yeah...”resist we much”
Cheney is not conservative.
Liz Cheney agrees with the radical left wing homosexual agenda. She wanted DADT ended and rejoiced when it was, she was against DOMA, is against a constitutional amendment to save marriage, and supports gay marriage, and supports the State department move to the gay agenda.
” Ironic that in another related thread yesterday, she was talking about what Wyomingites needed. How the hell does SHE know what they want or need? Carpetbagger! “
I’m thinking another “Dubya” amnesty vote.
I agree. And I bet she’s soft on the border & immigration whereas Enzi is excellent on the issue from what I understand.
She has spent years promoting the homosexual agenda, and at age 46, after all these years of politics, Romney support, and interviews, no one knows her abortion views.
To me that tells us what her abortion views are, no matter how she tries to soft pedal them at some future point when she is cornered and has to answer.
I know exactly what’s going through her head.
She’s been selected by the GOP-e to run. They want a reliable, pliable candidate who will be reliably interventionist in middle eastern affairs, ready to carry water for the Federal Reserve and the Wall Street cartels, etc.
They know Enzi is getting old(er) and they’re seeking to lock up this seat before it gets vacated and a possible “Tea Party” populist can get their foot in the door and the neo-cons lose more influence in the Congress.
She’s thinking “I have the GOP party hacks and money men behind me, so I should win against a guy who is the favorite of a bunch of gap-toothed hillbillies, rednecks and snaggle-toothed ranchers and their cows.”
No real difference between the two. I suspect Cheney may be more liberal than Enzi. Don’t need socially liberal pro amnesty neocons. If Cheney campaigned against amnesty, I’d be interested.
I know she claims 160 years of family history in Wyoming, but it's not her dad or grandpa running. I have family history in New York and Limerick. It doesn't mean I've from there or have personal history there.
If she moved to Jackson, that probably makes it even tougher.
My one major problem problem is carpetbagging. I don't like it at all. A lot of small town people resent it in a major way.
I wonder if this is part of a push to stop the growth of females within the GOP from being conservative females, “grizzly mamas”.
Liz Cheney is a perfect rino/social liberal leader to represent a non-threatening GOPe female counter to the grizzlies.