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Judge Rules That Detroit's Bankruptcy Is Unconstitutional, Ruling That It "Dishonors" Obama
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Posted on 07/19/2013 2:04:04 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Perdogg

Full title: Judge Rules That Detroit’s Bankruptcy Is Unconstitutional, Ruling That It “Dishonors” Obama and Son


101 posted on 07/19/2013 3:59:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RightGeek

No doubt about it. The skank judge is a whore who is bought & paid for by the unions. When will we EVER get a Repub governor who would simply just refuse to follow a tyrannical judge’s ruling and just issue a governor’s exec order that overrides & nullifies the judge’s ruling. And put some teeth in it....state that if the judge continues to issue rulings on the particular issue, she will be arrested & tried by the state AG.


102 posted on 07/19/2013 4:03:34 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Perdogg.


103 posted on 07/19/2013 4:03:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Perdogg

Is this for real? Srsly? Has this judge lost her friggin mind? This HAS to be a joke.


104 posted on 07/19/2013 4:08:23 PM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm not sure the judge has standing. She's an Ingam county judge, not a Wayne county judge.

And the bankruptcy filing was in federal court.

This judge doesn't realize it yet, but she is about to get slapped down. She has no jurisdiction at all.

105 posted on 07/19/2013 4:11:05 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: caww

And how long before they go bankrupt again because they never fixed the problem of uncompeative Union contracts?


106 posted on 07/19/2013 4:11:22 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Lurking Libertarian
She is saying that the Michigan State Constitution bars Detroit from filing bankruptcy. I predict that the federal bankruptcy court will tell her to pound sand, because state laws cannot trump federal laws, and the federal bankruptcy code permits municipal bankruptcies.

Didn't a city in California do the same thing, and the pension administrators claimed it was prevented by California law?

What was the outcome of that?

107 posted on 07/19/2013 4:13:01 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Perdogg

Amazing. This is actually true.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/ingham_county_judge_declares_e.html


108 posted on 07/19/2013 4:13:03 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
And when Detroit can't meet payroll, the Judge will makeup the difference.

Right, Judge?..... Judge?

Hello?..... Hello?

109 posted on 07/19/2013 4:17:35 PM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Perdogg

Satire?


110 posted on 07/19/2013 4:18:49 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Perdogg
This SO reminds me of Nazi Germany, where it was a crime to dishonor Hitler.

In the establishment of the 2nd Republic Constitution, there must be some provision requiring bureaucrats be constantly reminded they are servants of the people, not the Fuhrer.

111 posted on 07/19/2013 4:24:59 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Perdogg

Sometimes there are no words to describe the absolute ignorance and idiocy of the elected officials in this country.

This is on of those times.............


112 posted on 07/19/2013 4:26:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: Perdogg

Statement by the ALF-CIO on facebook.. https://www.facebook.com/MetroDetroitAFLCIO/posts/595960953758625


113 posted on 07/19/2013 4:27:55 PM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Mister Da
This SO reminds me of Nazi Germany, where it was a crime to dishonor Hitler.

Who will be the regime's version of "Roland Freisler".


114 posted on 07/19/2013 4:29:05 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeaHawkFan

.........I am sure this judge agrees with you! She is just doing what her “masters” (Jimmy Hoffa et al) ORDERED her to do.............pure and simple!

All that is going on here is right vs left and the left is bound and determined to FORCE Americans in 49 other states to cough up 18 billion dollars in pension fund bucks for the criminal public employee unions in Detroit who have been in a decades long effort to STEAL all this money from taxpayers by buying judges, among other things. The only thing standing against them is a few votes in the HOuse. Senate and Prez are bought and paid for just like this utterly corrupt judge.


115 posted on 07/19/2013 4:34:59 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: matt04

Unions should be outlawed.....and let’s let Detroit see if they have any other initiative other than milking from the taxpayers.....I’d bet good money they’d go back into the dumpster in no time at all!

Any company that even thinks of going there needs to consider carefully...it’s a fully unionized city and they will come after any company that even tries to succeed.. until they too cause them to leave their city....and the people won’t care that that happens any more than they did before.


116 posted on 07/19/2013 4:35:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: 1rudeboy

“They said if I voted for Romney, the country would be in the hands of a bizarre cult worshiping a ludicrous god, and they were right!”

Best post of the day, probably the week, maybe the entire four year term.


117 posted on 07/19/2013 4:36:41 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: Perdogg

Bad drugs?


118 posted on 07/19/2013 4:37:38 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Perdogg
That ditzy expression on her face is priceless.

I bet when her doctor shines a light in her ear, the wall on the opposite side of the room lights up!

119 posted on 07/19/2013 4:47:27 PM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: JerseyDvl

I hope when it falls it doesn’t bring us all down with it.


120 posted on 07/19/2013 4:47:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: cripplecreek

NYC may have higher debt, but NYC has taxpayers.

Detroit lacks enough responsible taxpayers.

The responsible ones that could, fled the Democratic City of Detroit.

Good thing too, in view of the heavy amount of black racism there.


121 posted on 07/19/2013 4:51:13 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: sitetest

This action ought to get her removed from the bench.


122 posted on 07/19/2013 4:57:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: caww

Unless you are willing to provide 24x7x365 armed security at you building I wouldn’t even consider it. I read somewhere about a business that had bene based in Detroit for 30-40 years that had to leave because of copper thieves that would steal a/c coils and wiring on an almost weekly basis. Can’t do business without power, phone or internet.


123 posted on 07/19/2013 4:57:54 PM PDT by matt04
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To: beef
Welfare payments not made.

That's when the riots start. Hope they don't spread too far outside the city limits.

Who owns a Gran Torino?

124 posted on 07/19/2013 4:59:58 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: matt04

Oh I believe that....crime rate overall is up 400%....Welcome to Detroit...the friendly city!

Heck Almost 50% of their street lights are out....the welcome mat for any thief.

Only fools would rush into Detroit...but their are fools!


125 posted on 07/19/2013 5:01:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: OldArmy52

Ah yes, good old Keynesian economics. It doesn’t matter how much debt we accumulate, we’ll all be dead someday and it won’t matter.

If you have enough taxpayers to support it, you wouldn’t have the growing debt.


126 posted on 07/19/2013 5:08:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately no. NY city alone has more than $100 billion in debt. Detroit is but a tiny canary in a very large coal mine.

Very true. The only reason Detroit is the first to blink is that it has been, essentially, shut out of the bond market. Bernanke's printing is enabling the continued purchase of stocks and bonds, thereby removing the need for due diligence and accurate ratings. When the bond markets seize as a side effect of QE being reduced or withdrawn, the smelly brown matter will hit the whirling blades quickly.

127 posted on 07/19/2013 5:10:56 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: Perdogg

judges on drugs or worse


128 posted on 07/19/2013 5:13:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: OldNewYork

It was the author’s. I wanted to give him some kudos.


129 posted on 07/19/2013 5:15:07 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Perdogg

This is really a scary vision of the future if you ask me. We are prohibited from ‘dishonoring’ Obama now?

It is going to take a long time to take this country back from these fools and fascists.


130 posted on 07/19/2013 5:15:11 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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“It’s cheating, sir, and it’s cheating good people who work,” the judge told assistant state Attorney General Brian Devlin. “It’s also not honoring the (United States) president, who took (Detroit’s auto companies) out of bankruptcy.”

Definitely a Low Information Voter.

131 posted on 07/19/2013 5:20:06 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: cripplecreek

another page of Atlas Shrugged coming true


132 posted on 07/19/2013 5:20:37 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: RobertClark
NY was bailed out in 1975.

The Domino Scenario: The Day New York City Defaulted
133 posted on 07/19/2013 5:21:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: penelopesire
This is really a scary vision of the future if you ask me. We are prohibited from ‘dishonoring’ Obama now?

Just like Justice Kennedy said those against Gay Marriage are Bigots. They are taking emotions and behaviors that were never in the relm of law and can now use thought policing against us to transform us into subjects not citizens...

134 posted on 07/19/2013 5:24:15 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks.....)
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To: caww

...Welcome to Detroit...the friendly city!

Heck Almost 50% of their street lights are out...
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And the 50% that remain lit are serving as beacons for the copper thieves as they continue their dismantling of Detroit’s remaining infrastructure.


135 posted on 07/19/2013 5:24:51 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: GeronL

I suspect Chicago is among the worst.


136 posted on 07/19/2013 5:27:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
NY was bailed out in 1975.

I don't consider loan guarantees to be 'bailed out', while I agree that the effect is still largely the same. The US gov't providing loan guarantees now will all depend on the faith afforded the US Treasury. The percentage of takedown by primary dealers in all auctions over the past few years is exorbitant, and being flipped right back to the Fed within days. The largest source of "confidence" in regards to Treasury bonds, now, is the Federal Reserve via PDs.

How much more can the fed balance sheet explode before retail and institutional investors put on the brakes. I guess that will be determined by how long we dump $85b per month in liquidity into the markets and how long we can get away with direct monetization. Sooner or later, the gig is up.

137 posted on 07/19/2013 5:31:27 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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“It’s cheating, sir, and it’s cheating good people who work,” the judge told assistant state Attorney General Brian Devlin. “It’s also not honoring president Obama, who took Detroit’s auto companies out of bankruptcy.”

Female judge.

And yeah, it damn well does matter, when this sort of crap is used to justify a ruling.

What level of feelings and hero worship would she use to justify sentencing someone to prison, who otherwise wouldn't have to go?

THIS is the REAL feminist America - read it and weep.

138 posted on 07/19/2013 5:39:14 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Perdogg
This bimbo has no clue as to the power of a Federal Bankruptcy Judge - or the world of feces she has walked into by trying to mess with a filed Bankruptcy Petition through State Court proceedings.

She was ousted of jurisdiction the moment that petition was filed and any party trying to undo that petition must go through the Bankruptcy Court to do so. She'll be lucky if she isn't held in contempt and tossed into the slammer.





"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

139 posted on 07/19/2013 5:51:53 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Perdogg

As a native Detroiter, I am officially disgraced....


140 posted on 07/19/2013 6:02:09 PM PDT by RedWing9 (Zero sucks... Jesus Rocks...)
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To: sitetest

I have not studied law, but I think I could be a better judge than this judge.


141 posted on 07/19/2013 6:05:37 PM PDT by ELS
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To: Rikki Doxx

This is a Justice of the Peace political hack,I assure you. Move on because we ain’t sending no mo money. Shut down this parasite.


142 posted on 07/19/2013 6:54:06 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: House Atreides

<...”And the 50% that remain lit are serving as beacons for the copper thieves as they continue their dismantling of Detroit’s remaining infrastructure”....>

That’s right! lol....They should just level Detroit and be done with it....but then the people there would end up in our cities!..... I think OBOZO will rescue the city again...using our money of course.


143 posted on 07/19/2013 7:21:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Perdogg

SC audition.

Why do we need a Detroit? Are there not decently run cities nearby?


144 posted on 07/19/2013 7:28:01 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Cen-Tejas
All that is going on here is right vs left and the left is bound and determined to FORCE Americans in 49 other states to cough up 18 billion dollars in pension fund bucks for the criminal public employee unions in Detroit who have been in a decades long effort to STEAL all this money from taxpayers by buying judges, among other things. The only thing standing against them is a few votes in the HOuse. Senate and Prez are bought and paid for just like this utterly corrupt judge.

Democrats/liberals are like bratty spoiled children. They NEVER have to pay for their crimes, either in facing the law or just paying via natural consequences (having to pay off their own debts, etc). They always expect someone else to bail them out from their bad choices. Unfortunately, the spoiled lawless parents force the law abiding family next door (conservatives/taxpayers) to pay to fix their "children's" mistakes.

145 posted on 07/19/2013 7:29:21 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Perdogg

These people that tell me that I should not worry about big government and continual expansion, that the government is benevolent and will only act in my best interest. Then they claim that those people “in the government” need to belong to a union because their collective bargaining protects them from their evil managers, who are also in the government.

So, I am not to worry because the government is always good, but those employed by the government need protections because it is always evil.


146 posted on 07/22/2013 5:59:01 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Perdogg
Judge Aquilina can rule all she wants, won't mean spit. The pensions are liabilities (creditor section) in the bankruptcy filing. Therefore a federal bankruptcy court is now the court of jurisdiction.

I kinda like the judge's letter to 0bama. Hope it reminds him of his "how he would save Detroit," speech.

5.56mm

147 posted on 07/22/2013 6:58:54 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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148 posted on 07/22/2013 7:06:31 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: P.O.E.

And they still got a “loan guarantee” in the end which is exactly why NY has a debt of around $110 billion dollars today.


149 posted on 07/22/2013 7:27:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Wonder how many times that same “guarantee” has been leveraged? FDIC, PBGC, student loans, plus all the myriad guarantees for DOE, USDA, etc. programs.


150 posted on 07/22/2013 8:07:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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