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Conservatives Should Point and Laugh as Detroit Dies
Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2013 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 07/23/2013 3:38:02 AM PDT by Kaslin

The agonizing death of Detroit is cause for celebration. It’s the first of the liberal-run big cities and states to fall, and we should welcome its collapse with glee.

Yeah, liberals, eventually you do run out of other people’s money.

The blue state model is a terminal disease, and Detroit is its poster child. Only this is one telethon where we should pledge that we won’t pay a single dime to keep the progressive party going a single minute longer.

Detroit represents the epitome of the blue state, Democrat machine liberalism that Barack Obama represents. Well, not one damn cent for Barry’s Kids.

Liberal media mouthpieces like the New York Times are all in a tizzy because the consequences conservatives have been warning America about for years are finally arriving. “We have to step in and save Detroit,” it cries.

We don’t have to do any such thing.

Steven Rattner, writing in the Times, says “But apart from voting in elections, the 700,000 remaining residents of the Motor City are no more responsible for Detroit’s problems than were the victims of Hurricane Sandy for theirs, and eventually Congress decided to help them.” And apart from the iceberg, the Titanic’s maiden voyage went swimmingly.

This is a problem created by the people of Detroit. It’s their problem to solve – without our money.

If you listen to the hand-wringers, you’ll never hear an honest examination of why Detroit is imploding. Nor do they offer any evidence that the half-wits who elected the quarter-wit Democrats governing them have learned anything at all from this trip to the precipice.

The most hilarious arguments are the ones where liberals whine about the middle class fleeing from the city, taking jobs and the tax base with them. Sure, regular folks took a look at the well-governed, stable, crime-free Utopia that was Detroit and thought, “Yeah, we need to get the hell out of here.”

Liberalism and the political, economic and social pathologies it spawned drove everyone out of Detroit who wasn’t feeding at the municipal trough, whether through some form of government job or some form of government handout.

This isn’t a chicken and the egg brainteaser. It’s simple cause and effect. Liberalism turned Detroit into a hideous dump that milked those who contribute to society to pay off the Democrat machine’s constituents who don’t. People didn’t feel like living in a pig sty while serving as piggy banks for corrupt Democrats. The productive decided that while the non-productive might win by voting at the ballot box, the productive would win by voting with their feet.

Yeah, Detroit had some hard knocks. The auto industry collapsed, which is not surprising since it was the blue state model in corporatist form. But every city takes hits. Dallas and Houston have been slammed again and again by the energy sector, and they keep coming back.

Not Detroit. It keeps milking the “GM went bye-bye” excuse, with its apologists never mentioning that GM didn’t just disappear. GM just went to places that didn’t suck.

What did Detroit do about it? Nothing. The auto industry started changing decades ago, but liberals act as if that change somehow excuses Detroit’s legacy of corruption and incompetence. Detroit’s most significant export in decades was Eminem. That’s reason enough to want to see a stake driven through its metaphorical heart.

But, of course it’s all the Republicans’ fault…for some reason. Rattner says, “If I thought it could pass Congress, I’d happily support a special appropriation, but the politics of any spending are toxic in Washington these days.” Yeah, it is toxic to suggest that those of us who didn’t vote in a succession of criminals to run our governments give our money to morons who did. And, in any sane universe, no one would ever suggest doing so.

But this is the Times, the voice of Big Liberalism. It opines that, “America is just as much about aiding those less fortunate as it is about personal responsibility.” Except, America isn’t about “aiding the less fortunate.” It’s about the “less fortunate” working to make themselves “more fortunate” – understanding that liberals think people become financially stable not through hard work but by dumb luck.

Not surprisingly, in a Times article referring to the miserable condition of a city run by a liberal Democrat machine for half a century, there is no mention of either liberalism or Democrats. That’s like writing about obesity and not mentioning food.

The liberal elite, which loves root causes, absolutely refuses to admit that the root cause of Detroit’s woes is liberalism itself. Liberals are like a drunk who wants the benefits of sobriety while continuing to hoist highballs. Step One is admitting that their ideology has a problem.

Fat chance. For liberalism, the answer is “5,” and it’s the “2 + 2” that’s somehow screwed up.

We conservatives should sit back and giggle as liberalism hits bottom. No, Detroit’s collapse won’t teach liberals anything. The big cities and the blue states will fail no matter what. Liberalism is the locust of political ideologies; it will eat everything in sight and then starve.

But Detroit may serve a useful purpose once again as a cautionary example for future generations, so for that reason as well we should welcome its passing. And as it dies, the last words ringing in its ears should be the voices of laughing conservatives saying, “We told you so.”


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1 posted on 07/23/2013 3:38:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

” the last words ringing in its ears should be the voices of laughing conservatives saying, “We told you so.”
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I do not think they should be “LAUGHING”. They should be shaking their heads in disgust.
It will next come to a city near you, as Obamunisim consumes more and more of America.


2 posted on 07/23/2013 3:50:44 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Kaslin

“Conservatives” deserve to lose with that kind of attitude. That’s liberal behavior.

Real conservatives cut democrats out of the equation and build something better.


3 posted on 07/23/2013 3:55:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

How could massive federal gov. aid possibly fix Detroit’s problems? The biggest problem is simply that the great majority of Detroit’s citizens are highly incapable of sustaining a large, vibrant city. When half the citizens are functionally illiterate, many are on welfare, and another very large percentage are criminals, how can they possibly constitute the citizenry needed to make a city operate? It can’t be done...no matter how many billions are thrown at it.


4 posted on 07/23/2013 3:57:27 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: AlexW

Have a good laugh anyways.


5 posted on 07/23/2013 4:00:27 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: cripplecreek

Once I may have agreed. But the left changed the rules. Today they have do degraded the common sense of society that it takes Idioctacy level ‘debate’ to reach the American public. So if mockery on a grand scale is needed, and it is, we would be remiss, if not outright suicidal to avoid using it.

Shunning/public scorn is a lost art. When it was in vogue, it worked. It will work again since the ego of the leftist is his weakness.


6 posted on 07/23/2013 4:01:32 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Pathetic.


7 posted on 07/23/2013 4:04:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

schadenfreude has it’s place. It is negative validation of conservatism in macrocosm. It solves nothing, but that is up to the voters in the area to fix and they won’t. The best thing that could happen is total abandonment of the city.


8 posted on 07/23/2013 4:05:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone who imagines Liberals will learn from this is wrong. One would have thought they learned from the collapse of communism. But no. Compared to that, Detroit is just a bump in the road.

Liberalism is based on feelings and fantasy, which gets in the way of learning from your mistakes. In the end, they will just blame it on evil reactionary forces and racism.


9 posted on 07/23/2013 4:08:34 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: cripplecreek

Not pathetic. For thousands of years including most of Americas, it worked just fine. We were programmed by libs over the last 50 years to think of it as evil...except when they do it. Then it’s good.

Nope. It’s good when done for the right reason. And that reason is to put libs in their place.


10 posted on 07/23/2013 4:08:54 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
So if mockery on a grand scale is needed, and it is, we would be remiss, if not outright suicidal to avoid using it.

Freeze the target. Isolate it. And ridicule it.

Time for Conservatives to shove alinsky method right back in their liberal faces.

11 posted on 07/23/2013 4:11:59 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Kaslin
Steven Rattner is the problem

When his ilk are gone, there can be improvement. Improvement trumps progress by progressives

12 posted on 07/23/2013 4:14:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: cripplecreek

Real Conservatives must laugh at stupidity.

How else will stupidity ever understand what it is?


13 posted on 07/23/2013 4:15:30 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Sirius Lee

Yup. And we don’t have to lie or make crap up either.


14 posted on 07/23/2013 4:15:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
No you simply lack the courage to face reality.

Either we do it your way and let the democrats "fix" it their way. Or conservatives nut up and do it right. You might look around. The whole country is going the same way as you bravely do nothing.

The major issue of this campaign is the direct political, personal and moral responsibility of Democratic Party leadership--in the White House and in Congress--for this unprecedented calamity which has befallen us. They tell us they have done the most that humanly could be done. They say that the United States has had its day in the sun; that our nation has passed its zenith. They expect you to tell your children that the American people no longer have the will to cope with their problems; that the future will be one of sacrifice and few opportunities.

My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. The American people, the most generous on earth, who created the highest standard of living, are not going to accept the notion that we can only make a better world for others by moving backwards ourselves. Those who believe we can have no business leading the nation.

I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose. We have come together here because the American people deserve better from those to whom they entrust our nation's highest offices, and we stand united in our resolve to do something about it.


Ronald Reagan Nomination Acceptance Speech Republican National Convention Detroit, Michigan July 17, 1980
15 posted on 07/23/2013 4:16:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

bfl


16 posted on 07/23/2013 4:21:05 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Vaquero
The productive decided that while the non-productive might win by voting at the ballot box, the productive would win by voting with their feet.

Given current tax law and the build up of federal debt, that option may not be available to any but the ultra-rich.

17 posted on 07/23/2013 4:21:05 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Kaslin

You know your city is the pits when all it has to show for itself is Eminem (who is actually a pretty good rapper, for a white dude).


18 posted on 07/23/2013 4:22:47 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: rbg81

I agree completely with you that liberals will not learn from this. As a matter of fact they expect everyone else to make the same mistakes


19 posted on 07/23/2013 4:23:23 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
“The agonizing death of Detroit is cause for celebration”

What a bunch of bullshit.

Conservatives should NEVER be happy any American city is in the shape of Detroit.

If so called “Conservatives” cannot pull their heads out of their asses and offer solutions for all Americans in all cities they deserve neither the respect not the votes of the American electorate..

20 posted on 07/23/2013 4:27:11 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Kaslin

Poor and incompetent representation and management is fixed at the ballot box, not the public trough.

If the federal government keeps bailing out cities and municipalities then they’ll keep perpetuating the problem.


21 posted on 07/23/2013 4:27:15 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: agere_contra

I don’t expect you to understand. You only know what you’re told.

I actually go and talk to the people on the street and I’m finding more real conservatism there than most rural “conservatives” display. Thousands of people taking part in a thriving underground economy because going Galt was their only way of escaping the corruption and they know that no conservative rescue is coming. They don’t want your money, all they want is moral support and workable ideas.

The saddest thing is the fact that those FReepers who agree feel the need to tell me about it in FReepmail because they don’t want to be seen stepping out of line.


22 posted on 07/23/2013 4:34:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin
I am laughing at them and I do not care about them... their dim masters blamed all of us (yesterday's dnc talking point spewed even on fox) and our “republican economic policies over the past 60 years” for their failures in detroit so I am enjoying the death spiral of detroit!

LLS

23 posted on 07/23/2013 4:37:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: glorgau
Given current tax law and the build up of federal debt, that option may not be available to any but the ultra-rich.

During the 1930s places like Oklahoma turned into a dust bowl. Residents tied all their worldly possessions to their old jalopies and pickups and left for areas where they might be able to get work. These were to poor and lower middle class...saying the residents of Detroit can't do the same is either racist or Marxist. .

24 posted on 07/23/2013 4:38:26 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

The same has been happening in the North East. All that is left there now are the loyalist residue that worships Europe. The good folks have all left


25 posted on 07/23/2013 4:41:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Kaslin
It is wrong to laugh at misfortune.

It is right to assign blame.

In a democratic republic, ultimate responsibility for failed government rests with the citizenry.

26 posted on 07/23/2013 4:41:43 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Vaquero
..saying the residents of Detroit can't do the same is either racist or Marxist.

Sorry, I was meaning the United States, not just some locality within.

27 posted on 07/23/2013 4:44:09 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Kaslin

Here’s what is frightening.

In a normal and realistic society, Detroit is the textbook example of what NOT to do if you want your city to remain prosperous and viable. It OUGHT to be the most dramatic and indelible warning to everyone.... individuals, cities and the country!!!

Everything that could be done to ruin the place and its prospects, WAS done, and done as if by necessity-like they had some crying NEED to croak the place.

They couldn’t help themselves and clung to their BS Liberalism... even when (VERY long ago) it was apparent that it was the wrong direction.

I especially loved/love the way Liberals beat us over the head for what they call our Conservative greed and lack of compassion. I loved/love the way they cast these insults in our face AS IF Conservatives would condemn any city to this kind of thing, JUST because they are Liberals.

A failed city hurts ALL America... but Liberals made political capital out of what THEY called the Conservative ‘uncaring and greedy’ demands for accountability and responsible management.

However, this catastrophe didn’t happen overnight.

So there has been AMPLE time to consider the future and there is a tremendous amount of blame to go around. But no, the spoiled children were shamefully indulged.

Blame must be laid at the feet of the Liberals in Detroit who screamed like spoiled children for what they wanted and GOT! ... (continuously, for decades). Blame must also be laid at the feet of Congress and the MSM which never once challenged this in a way that would even impede the process.


28 posted on 07/23/2013 4:47:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: montanajoe

I agree with you for the most part. We should not be laughing at an atrocity like this.

But I also believe the best solution for Destroit is to raze it and turn it back into pristine Michigan woodlands. Put a plaque somewhere in it to memorialize what happens when the takers drive out the makers.


29 posted on 07/23/2013 4:50:45 AM PDT by EricT. (This post has been recorded and cataloged for your security.)
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To: Kaslin

This is the kind of column Ann Coulter used to write before she started humping Christie’s leg.


30 posted on 07/23/2013 4:56:10 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: AlexW; Biggirl

I grew up in a time when I knew neighborhood blocks like the one pictured.

One of the most convenient of living situations.

If you look in the back ground, you see what appears to be larger middle class houses, at one time single family.

And the row of storefront may have been, corner candy store ala Doc's place in West Side Story, a laundry, maybe a small neighborhood bar, a small five and dime, laundra-mat ... etc.

I remember places like that ... in the 50's.

And it was a piece of America that, for a while anyway, was a good place to live.

31 posted on 07/23/2013 4:57:03 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: AlexW
I do not think they should be “LAUGHING”...

I dunno, can you think of a more apropos time to engage in a little Schadenfreude.

32 posted on 07/23/2013 4:57:10 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (My tax dollars are Trayvon!)
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To: Sirius Lee
Excellent suggestion.

A tool we can use when people ask "what can I do?".

33 posted on 07/23/2013 5:00:19 AM PDT by doberville
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To: EricT.

“Put a plaque somewhere in it to memorialize what happens when the takers drive out the makers”

Well that would sure show the rest of the country Conservatives are brimming with ideas...;)

Detroit still has potential and if Conservatives cannot see that and cannot offer solutions to harness that potential then I guess modern Conservatism is just as much of a failure as liberalism....


34 posted on 07/23/2013 5:00:42 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Kaslin
This is a problem created by the people of Detroit. It’s their problem to solve – without our money.

Rush had the stats from Detroit yesterday. It's been 37 years since any (R) was elected it that city and over 60 years since an (R) mayor. I am afraid 0 bumbler will bail Detroit out again.

35 posted on 07/23/2013 5:10:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: montanajoe

Oh, they were offered a chance to fix things, but their skin color or party affiliation wasn’t ‘correct’.

Laugh THEN bull-doze it to the ground. Salt the Earth, and setup a museum to show how Socialism fails EVERY TIME.


36 posted on 07/23/2013 5:11:09 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: montanajoe

The solution for Detroit IS its agonizing death. That’s the way out. That solves everything.

Cities aren’t people. They don’t have immortal souls. It’s OK to laugh at their ‘deaths’.

We’re laughing at Detroit because it’s funny to watch socialism crash and burn.

We also laughing because the unbelievably stupid voters of Detroit need to hear our laughter and to realize what their sloth, envy and causal racism have won them - lasting shame and ignominy.

Don’t apologize! Detroit is dying and needs to completely die before its toxins can be purged. This is creative destruction. There will never be a New Detroit until the Old Detroit is dead. The current train-wreck is just the first step towards the rise of a new city.


37 posted on 07/23/2013 5:12:28 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: EricT.

After a divorce I spent every weekend in Detroit for 2 yrs

10 yrs ago

I saw many things that were beyond my understanding no one here in minnesota believed the stories I told them.

Travel between windsor and detroit is upsetting for anyone with a brain.

I met a family of young white girls who were not hookers.they lived in an abandon house with 2 kids.I took them to dinner when I could.They were sisters and cousins,2 worked at mcdonalds and shared with the others.

There is nothing to laugh about...only a fool would laugh.
about detroit.


38 posted on 07/23/2013 5:14:21 AM PDT by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: agere_contra

no offense but what an idiotic post..


39 posted on 07/23/2013 5:14:50 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: cripplecreek

Then perhaps you care to explain why 4000 years of humanity having the ‘courage’ to call a spade a spade and hold feet to the proverbial fire is a bad thing.

Sorry CC, we often agree but you are well off the rails here. There is nothing whatsoever cowardly about us giving the proper reaction when it’s due. and the proper reaction is to shame the holy hell out of the people who destroyed an entire city and uncounted lived with their political philosophy.

Or do you prefer we just let them slide? AGAIN???

Reality check. Letting them slide results in further emboldenment...a fact that the forementioned 4000 years of human civ has demonstrated time and time again.

No one said we just mock’em and call it good. No. We must also fix what they broke with conservatism and it’s principles. Because no one else can. And that fix is to spread our success to those who lack it....those willing to learn from it.

Now if you can find a logical or historical flaw with the above, and you won’t, do tell.


40 posted on 07/23/2013 5:15:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: AlexW

Maybe not so much “laugh” as make sure the point is driven home that Detroit was run for FIFTY YEARS under full democrat control, no conservative was involved in its destruction,

and this result can be FULLY EXPECTED when democrats run the government.


41 posted on 07/23/2013 5:17:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: montanajoe

No offense but you lack critical comprehension skills.

We can keep this up all day, butt-hurt.


42 posted on 07/23/2013 5:17:12 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: AlexW

Was going to be my point... kinda like warning someone not to build their house on the sand, but they do anyway... then, when they get swept away by the storm... well, it’s a sad thing to behold.


43 posted on 07/23/2013 5:21:31 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Vaquero

“The best thing that could happen is total abandonment of the city.”

And where would the scum move?


44 posted on 07/23/2013 5:22:46 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Kaslin

45 posted on 07/23/2013 5:24:06 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Kaslin

Detroit today...United States tomorrow. There is no free lunch...just someone else’s lunch.


46 posted on 07/23/2013 5:25:11 AM PDT by Portcall24 (WAS WHERE3)
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To: BigCinBigD
And where would the scum move?

New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago..... Anywhere voters continually vote democrat.

47 posted on 07/23/2013 5:27:18 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: kevkrom

It’s going to take me awhile to get that visual out of my head.


48 posted on 07/23/2013 5:28:26 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Its pretty clear that you just don’t have what it takes.

Nobody said anything about letting them slide.

Detroit isn’t going anywhere and that’s a simple fact that you’re going to have to face. Either we let Democrats have their way again or we find solutions on our own.

If conservatives want to behave exactly as the Texas protesters, I say wear those tampon earrings with pride but don’t count on me to do it.


49 posted on 07/23/2013 5:30:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Therapsid
Unless we deride and shame Detroit - its leaders, its majority voters, its wicked entitlement and Socialist policies - then the poverty that you witnessed in Detroit will spread further.

We must not enable evil. Above all, we must not cast about for a way to save it, or perpetuate it!

Detroit has become a cancer and nothing can save it. Its only value now is as an awful and risible example.

We must not echo liberal pieties about needing to save it. Watch it crash and burn! Laugh at and deride the racist madmen who destroyed it!

But if Detroit does not become a byword for corruption and municipal narcissism - if we solemnly pledge to 'save Detroit' - then there really is no help for America.

50 posted on 07/23/2013 5:33:09 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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