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Pentagon considering affirmative action in combat
The Daily Caller ^ | July 26, 2013 | Elizabeth Dorton

Posted on 07/26/2013 9:39:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senior military personnel are considering now giving women different military training than men, The Washington Times reports.

The effort was proposed by Massachusetts Democrat Rep. Niki Tsongas at a recent House Armed Services Committee hearing because so far, she says training systems do not “maximize the success of women.”

Though the armed services have promised that combat standards will be the same regardless of gender, senior officers are considering initially separate training systems.

Army Lt. Gen. Howard Bromberg, serving as deputy chief of staff for personnel, considers separate training programs to be more about considering all soldiers as individuals, citing a need to explore how the training process works.

“We’re not looking at it just for the integration of women,” Bromberg said. “We’re looking at it for the total soldier, because just as you have a 110-pound male who may lack some type of physiological capability or physical capability, he or she may both need to be trained differently. We’re trying to expand our understanding of how we train.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; army; military; nikitsongas; obama; womenincombat
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To: Black Agnes

Agreed. There is a reason why men have been soldiers forever and women haven’t.


41 posted on 07/26/2013 10:36:29 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Black Agnes

all wars are population control. and generally they are getting rid of the more patriotic among the population.

look at all the vaccines they pump into them as well. we’ve lost a ton of pilots from bad batches of anthrax vaccines, the synthetic squalene and other crap in there has destroyed their vision and nerve reflexes. depleted uranium dust and exposure has been a nightmare for them as well.


42 posted on 07/26/2013 10:39:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EEGator
"I’m mostly the same as you politically, but I registered so now they can too.

It will probably take a couple thousand females getting blown up, beheaded, and raped on camera to fix this nonsense.

Supports the draft, supports women getting blown up. I have daughters who would be of age for this crazy. How else to take it?

Do you think women in combat is a great idea?

I haven't been on 'these threads' what is it to you if I reply to another poster?

43 posted on 07/26/2013 10:40:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Huh?


44 posted on 07/26/2013 10:42:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

nobody seems to feel awful a guy dies in combat. that’s a lot of futures gone there, too. maybe it’s no big deal because it’s been like this forever and guys are just ‘supposed to’. the guy that gets killed and gets his life cut short, and no family sure wishes people felt as bad as if a woman died in combat.


45 posted on 07/26/2013 10:44:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Men are numerically more expendable than women. It’s one reason Y swimmers are faster. And the male/female birth ratio is greater than 1. Russia lost HALF her men of reproductive age in the great war. Her population growth barely hit a blip in the years after.

The birth rate for a population of 10 men and 100 healthy fertile women is theoretically about 100 babies/year. In a population of 10 women and 100 men it’s roughly 10 babies/year (plus a whole lotta fights!).

Women have the babies. And only women who are healthy and between the years of roughly 14 and 40. Eliminate those citizens or their potential childbearing years via death or simple conscription and your fertility level will plummet.

And we’re just talking simple exclusion and not anything else they might be exposed to via our glorious leaders agendas or corrupt deals with defense or pharma suppliers.


46 posted on 07/26/2013 10:45:50 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Pentagon considering affirmative action in combat”

Then the Pentagon is a fool.

The administration is replete with enemies of America, jostling to piss off someone who will eventually revolt against the machine and bring about martial law.

Women are blessings. Men are blessings. Just not blessings in the same way. Maybe that’s why God made them different.


47 posted on 07/26/2013 10:46:56 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: EEGator

That’s the way it read.

I’ve been disappointed at the number of conservatives who were themselves drafted, hate ‘those bulldyke femists’, and hope they’re drafted and blown up. Just because they were drafted.

I’m against conscription of anyone. Doing it to the liberal women because it was done to ‘you’ (the hypothetical ‘you’) doesn’t make it right.


48 posted on 07/26/2013 10:47:54 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: laplata
The Draft will probably be back in a few years. I’ll give aid and comfort to any Draft Dodgers that I can.

My father said the same thing to my nephew (my step-sister's kid) if he was ever drafted, he would do his best to tell him to drive to Canada and get him started there. I do concur as the way things are now.

Our military has turned into a politically correct tool to protect special interests who are pushing the New World Order.

I still salute and give thanks to the current people in there now but it hurts me that they've joined for the right reasons but being used for the wrong things as of now.
49 posted on 07/26/2013 10:51:33 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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To: Black Agnes

well that’s very utilitarian of you. glad you aren’ t the God of this universe. yet when you irrationally infer from another poster, that one of your daughters might get blownup, and we have 3 billion other women on the planet, will you take comfort in the fact other women will have the kids she didn’t, or will you instead take it personal and lash out at someone not even talking about your daughter in thefirst place?

oh, you already DID answer my question.


50 posted on 07/26/2013 10:51:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You must not have any kids if you think those ‘other’ 3 billion women on the planet are as important to me (or any other woman) as my own children.

You’re either childless, male, or both.


51 posted on 07/26/2013 10:54:06 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: EEGator
I’m mostly the same as you politically, but I registered so now they can too.

I still do disagree about the draft and registering, I oppose it but I do understand your logic since when I was younger and not as libertarian, I felt the same as you.

P.S. FF VII is awesome.

It is a cool game. The toughest part in the game was the first time escaping from Midgar.
52 posted on 07/26/2013 10:54:09 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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To: Black Agnes

You took two separate posts and spliced them together. The second part was only a partial quoting by you. I was not drafted, nor did I ever state I hope women get drafted and blown up. Your comprehension of my post couldn’t be further off. I was pointing out that it would take bad things to happen for this nonsense to be turned around. Women don’t belong in combat...ever. Not to mention you threatened me in your first post, which is ridiculous and uncalled for.


53 posted on 07/26/2013 10:56:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Nowhere Man

I still salute and give thanks to the current people in there now but it hurts me that they’ve joined for the right reasons but being used for the wrong things as of now.


I agree 100%. I love our military, it’s traditions, etc. and it’s maddening and disgusting to see what’s happening.


54 posted on 07/26/2013 10:56:37 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

To genocide a particular population, forever, you needn’t kill all of them. Just females under the age of about 40. That’s a population coup de grace. They will never have any more babies. Ever.

Sure, the men could reproduce with other populations women...but that’s generally a fight uphill. Those women are generally ‘taken’ by the men in their own population for partners.


55 posted on 07/26/2013 10:56:42 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; EEGator

Now, now, let’s not hunt anyone down, I do understand the logic behind where everyone has to register, but like you, I do not favor such a system and oppose any draft.


56 posted on 07/26/2013 10:56:52 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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To: Black Agnes

then you’re just a hypocrite. for every ‘expendable male’ as you so darwinly put it, there’s a mom that feels just like you do about your daughter.

you must not be a christian, or if you are, you’re a very poor one that has no ability to have any kind of empathy for anyone else.


57 posted on 07/26/2013 10:57:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EEGator

I fully expect women to be drafted. Within a decade, probably sooner. This opening up combat roles to women to satisfy a few careerdykes is window dressing. The careerdykes are the useful idiots.

Who ever thought they’d have open gay marriages at the west point chapel? Would you have thought that 10 years ago?

Mark my words. Within a decade there will be all female foot patrols in indian country in some G-d forsaken country. And the MSM will eat it up. The ‘brave heroism’ of our wonderful women warriors and their ‘brave sacrifices’.


58 posted on 07/26/2013 10:59:20 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nowhere Man

Pretty much my feelings too


59 posted on 07/26/2013 11:03:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Black Agnes
Yeah, I see your point is that if and when women get drafted. I also have a niece from a step sister and if she was ever drafted, like my nephew, if I had any means, I'd help her get to Canada too. Although I'm 47, if I am ever lucky to meet up with some woman of child bearing years and I have kids, I would do the same thing.

I understand the idea that if there is a law, it should apply to all equally but nevertheless the Selective Service system is bad law and I do see it as a form of slavery.
60 posted on 07/26/2013 11:04:30 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("We have met the enemy, he is us!" - Pogo Possum - 1971)
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